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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 5, 2018 15:37:16 GMT -4
Ask anybody in the Maritimes not from the Moncton or Halifax areas ... where would you rather go to attend the Memorial Cup Tournament if you were staying for the whole event ... Moncton or Halifax. I'll bet you that it would be a landslide for Halifax. Unless you have a rooting interest for Moncton or family there I'd say it would be unanimous. Moncton is a nice little city. I actually look forward to catching some events there after the new building opens and some bigger acts role through. But it's no Halifax. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 5, 2018 15:37:45 GMT -4
Because Halifax beats Moncton in every category. If our rink wasn't new they'd beat us in facilities ... not sure why "new" matters though. They can fit more people into their rink which allows them to beat us on the financial side also. Halifax's downtown blows Moncton's away where the festival will take place. In ten years from now after our new rink has had a chance to create development then maybe that changes or we bring it closer in line. Halifax has also hosted a World Juniors and a World Mens hockey event ... both very successful. Their experience in events like this trumps our's easily. If you stand Moncton up against Halifax or Quebec ... Moncton will always lose unless team strength is a clear win for us. We don't compare well to those two cities. Halifax hosted in 2000 ... we hosted in 2006 ... if all other things are equal then it is simply their turn again. Halifax hosted the most successful Memorial Cup to date ... tremendous attendance numbers ... while Moncton's was not well attended. Its also Halifax's 25th anniversary ... apparently anniversaries matter to people. Is that enough ? Now I'll ask you, where do you think we beat Halifax ? We beat Halifax in several criteria. 1 - Distance from the airport to the rink/downtown 2 - Distance from the rink to practice facility 3 - Rink sight lines (those who have sat in the upper bowl of the ScotiaBank Centre can tell you watching the game on a TV screen mounted on a wall isn't fun). As for fan experience, Moncton had a Donald K Donald produced concert planned at the UdeM Stadium. A major Canadian act who would attract close to 30000 people. Other festival events were to be held within the plaza area of the events centre. I should add the roster Moncton presented to the selection committee would be on-par with the Mooseheads. I can't say if this influenced the selection committee in any way, but they visited Moncton on a Thursday. Their visit to Halifax was the other day. Upon arriving at the airport, their flight to Halifax was cancelled. Mr Irving made a call to the Wildcats bus driver who drove them all to Halifax in the Wildcats bus to ensure they made it on time. I don't think #1 and 2 are actual factors. Plus, the roster Moncton presented had THREE star players they hoped they could get. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Apr 5, 2018 15:38:59 GMT -4
That's part of the criteria used by the selection committee to make a decision. I'm not mad about Halifax winning the bid. Heck, I posted on the Moose board that Mooseheads hosting is best for the Wildcats organization. If you disagree that distance from the airport to the downtown/rink and practice facility should be excluded, feel free to forward those thoughts to the correct people. You may not care about "frills", but many people do. Great place and time to mingle with junior hockey fans from across Canada. FYI, their flight wasn't cancelled because of what you describe as limited capabilities. It was weather related. Nice try, though. Well you say that our practice facilty is closer top our rink ... so where is Halifax's ? As I said I don't care about the frills ... and many do ... but as I said either team could do the exact same thing so it isn't really anything to argue about. But thats just it ... a flight was cancelled so they got stuck in Moncton and couldn't get out. There was no option of a flight later in the day ... no other carrier that could get them there. Moncton has very limited flight options ... I have to deal with them weekly. Halifax's practice facility is located near Dartmouth Crossing. |
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Post by sc74 on Apr 5, 2018 15:39:30 GMT -4
Le coultre won’t be back, he hasn’t told them yet but he plans to play pro in Switzerland Same thing for Kurashev in Quebec. |
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Post by moosefan1994 on Apr 5, 2018 15:45:06 GMT -4
That's part of the criteria used by the selection committee to make a decision. I'm not mad about Halifax winning the bid. Heck, I posted on the Moose board that Mooseheads hosting is best for the Wildcats organization. If you disagree that distance from the airport to the downtown/rink and practice facility should be excluded, feel free to forward those thoughts to the correct people. You may not care about "frills", but many people do. Great place and time to mingle with junior hockey fans from across Canada. FYI, their flight wasn't cancelled because of what you describe as limited capabilities. It was weather related. Nice try, though. Well you say that our practice facilty is closer top our rink ... so where is Halifax's ? As I said I don't care about the frills ... and many do ... but as I said either team could do the exact same thing so it isn't really anything to argue about. But thats just it ... a flight was cancelled so they got stuck in Moncton and couldn't get out. There was no option of a flight later in the day ... no other carrier that could get them there. Moncton has very limited flight options ... I have to deal with them weekly. Halifax's new practice facility is in Dartmouth Crossing. |
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Post by sc74 on Apr 5, 2018 15:48:33 GMT -4
We beat Halifax in several criteria. 1 - Distance from the airport to the rink/downtown 2 - Distance from the rink to practice facility 3 - Rink sight lines (those who have sat in the upper bowl of the ScotiaBank Centre can tell you watching the game on a TV screen mounted on a wall isn't fun). As for fan experience, Moncton had a Donald K Donald produced concert planned at the UdeM Stadium. A major Canadian act who would attract close to 30000 people. Other festival events were to be held within the plaza area of the events centre. I should add the roster Moncton presented to the selection committee would be on-par with the Mooseheads. I can't say if this influenced the selection committee in any way, but they visited Moncton on a Thursday. Their visit to Halifax was the other day. Upon arriving at the airport, their flight to Halifax was cancelled. Mr Irving made a call to the Wildcats bus driver who drove them all to Halifax in the Wildcats bus to ensure they made it on time. I don't think #1 and 2 are actual factors. Plus, the roster Moncton presented had THREE star players they hoped they could get. Are rosters that important? We know it can change fast. From Quebec's 20 players roster in the first game of the 2015 Memorial Cup, bolded weren't there when they won the Mem Cup bid in April 2014. Etchegary Roy
VerrierDuclair Erne Gauthier
Tkachev
TimashovCarozza Turcotte GarneauMoody Graves
Brouillard
MurphyMaheux Dutra
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Post by Arnold Slick on Apr 5, 2018 17:12:36 GMT -4
I'm curious as to why you'd say that. Team performance isn't the only criteria. Because Halifax beats Moncton in every category. If our rink wasn't new they'd beat us in facilities ... not sure why "new" matters though. They can fit more people into their rink which allows them to beat us on the financial side also. Halifax's downtown blows Moncton's away where the festival will take place. In ten years from now after our new rink has had a chance to create development then maybe that changes or we bring it closer in line. Halifax has also hosted a World Juniors and a World Mens hockey event ... both very successful. Their experience in events like this trumps our's easily. If you stand Moncton up against Halifax or Quebec ... Moncton will always lose unless team strength is a clear win for us. We don't compare well to those two cities. Halifax hosted in 2000 ... we hosted in 2006 ... if all other things are equal then it is simply their turn again. Halifax hosted the most successful Memorial Cup to date ... tremendous attendance numbers ... while Moncton's was not well attended.Its also Halifax's 25th anniversary ... apparently anniversaries matter to people. Is that enough ? Now I'll ask you, where do you think we beat Halifax ? Let me preface this by saying I agree with *most* of what you're saying and I'm beyond relieved that Moncton was not awarded the tournament, however... What metric are you using to determine that Halifax hosted the most successful Memorial Cup to date? It can't be attendance since Vancouver averaged 13,507 in 2007. Also where on earth are you getting that the 2006 Memorial Cup wasn't well attended? Every game was packed aside from the tiebreaker game and that's only because it started at 4 or 5 on a Thursday. I had friends from out of town that could only get standing room tickets for the tournament. Complete load of BS to say the tournament wasn't well attended. |
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Post by npsh on Apr 5, 2018 18:12:53 GMT -4
I'm curious as to why you'd say that. Team performance isn't the only criteria. Because Halifax beats Moncton in every category. If our rink wasn't new they'd beat us in facilities ... not sure why "new" matters though. They can fit more people into their rink which allows them to beat us on the financial side also. Halifax's downtown blows Moncton's away where the festival will take place. In ten years from now after our new rink has had a chance to create development then maybe that changes or we bring it closer in line. Halifax has also hosted a World Juniors and a World Mens hockey event ... both very successful. Their experience in events like this trumps our's easily. If you stand Moncton up against Halifax or Quebec ... Moncton will always lose unless team strength is a clear win for us. We don't compare well to those two cities. Halifax hosted in 2000 ... we hosted in 2006 ... if all other things are equal then it is simply their turn again. Halifax hosted the most successful Memorial Cup to date ... tremendous attendance numbers ... while Moncton's was not well attended. Its also Halifax's 25th anniversary ... apparently anniversaries matter to people. Is that enough ? Now I'll ask you, where do you think we beat Halifax ? Putting hockey and rinks to one side, the downtown core for Halifax in terms of facilities, hotels, pubs, restaurants/fine dining, activities, points of interest aka Pier 21, Maritime Museum of the Atlantic(Titanic exhibition) and the waterfront museum ships, Naval history, harbour tours and on and on... Moncton never has/never will be comparable in any of those aspects. Nice May weather, stroll on the waterfront, the harbour ferry to Dartmouth........ I mean what can one say. I am sure at some time in the future Moncton will get the opportunity, to be honest here in the Maritimes there are only three places with facilities- Saint John, Moncton and Halifax. |
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Post by Reesor on Apr 5, 2018 19:02:17 GMT -4
Moncton did pretty good back in 2006. Didn't sell out every game but were close. mastercardmemorialcup.ca/schedule/4Halifax sold out every game but one, which was the OHL vs WHL matchup. mastercardmemorialcup.ca/schedule/21Shawingan was disappointing. Less than 80% capacity for some games. mastercardmemorialcup.ca/schedule/41The worst had to be Quebec city though. 15,300 seat rink, and didn't crack 7000 for two games. mastercardmemorialcup.ca/schedule/51It seems to be a theme in bigger arenas that it doesn't sell out. Bobby Smith has said the tickets for next year won't be as expensive as more recent tournaments. Could be just marketing speak, but hopefully they pick a price point that allows us to sell out every game. Looks much better. |
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2018 19:37:54 GMT -4
Sherbrooke will pick 5th in the draft ... but Chic got first overall. Two yrs in a row that 16th won the lottery.
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Post by hockey1981 on Apr 5, 2018 19:42:10 GMT -4
Sherbrooke will pick 5th in the draft ... but Chic got first overall. Two yrs in a row that 16th won the lottery. Incorrect, CHI was 15th  they went from 4th to 1st |
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2018 19:44:39 GMT -4
Because Halifax beats Moncton in every category. If our rink wasn't new they'd beat us in facilities ... not sure why "new" matters though. They can fit more people into their rink which allows them to beat us on the financial side also. Halifax's downtown blows Moncton's away where the festival will take place. In ten years from now after our new rink has had a chance to create development then maybe that changes or we bring it closer in line. Halifax has also hosted a World Juniors and a World Mens hockey event ... both very successful. Their experience in events like this trumps our's easily. If you stand Moncton up against Halifax or Quebec ... Moncton will always lose unless team strength is a clear win for us. We don't compare well to those two cities. Halifax hosted in 2000 ... we hosted in 2006 ... if all other things are equal then it is simply their turn again. Halifax hosted the most successful Memorial Cup to date ... tremendous attendance numbers ... while Moncton's was not well attended.Its also Halifax's 25th anniversary ... apparently anniversaries matter to people. Is that enough ? Now I'll ask you, where do you think we beat Halifax ? Let me preface this by saying I agree with *most* of what you're saying and I'm beyond relieved that Moncton was not awarded the tournament, however... What metric are you using to determine that Halifax hosted the most successful Memorial Cup to date? It can't be attendance since Vancouver averaged 13,507 in 2007. Also where on earth are you getting that the 2006 Memorial Cup wasn't well attended? Every game was packed aside from the tiebreaker game and that's only because it started at 4 or 5 on a Thursday. I had friends from out of town that could only get standing room tickets for the tournament. Complete load of BS to say the tournament wasn't well attended. We don't compete against WHL or OHL teams to host. What I meant was .. of the Q teams ... Halifax put on the most successful tournament. We had about 6500 (+/-) seats and couldn't sell it out ... that's poorly attended for an event of this size. It was disappointing. |
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2018 19:46:06 GMT -4
Sherbrooke will pick 5th in the draft ... but Chic got first overall. Two yrs in a row that 16th won the lottery. Incorrect, CHI was 15th they went from 4th to 1st Correct ... forgot about VD since they weren't at the lottery. |
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Post by sc74 on Apr 5, 2018 19:48:17 GMT -4
"Moncton Wildcats winners of the trade that sent the 5th overall pick elsewhere"
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Post by bois on Apr 5, 2018 19:57:59 GMT -4
Le coultre won’t be back, he hasn’t told them yet but he plans to play pro in Switzerland Guess he doesn’t have to tell them now... good thing he told you tho |
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