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Post by thegoaliegm on Jan 1, 2019 20:36:48 GMT -4
With the lack of depth in the Pittsburgh goalie prospects, he will mostlikely not be playing in the Q next season. I think SJ are trying to sell him as if he will play his OA season and asking too much for him. I wouldn't put much weight on Pittsburgh's organizational depth when it comes to what they decide to do with D'Orio next season. You see, there are these things called trades and free agent signings. Ironic that this needs to be explained in an 11-page discussion about trades, but here we are. They may very well turn him pro at 20 next year but if they do it will be because they believe he is ready for it, not to fill a void that they could get a 30-something career journeyman backup to fill. Now look at his numbers and do we really think that it's automatic that he will turn pro next season? Anyone that has watched this team knows that those numbers are in large part a result of the team in front of him but they still are what they are. They certainly take away the whole "nothing left to prove in the Q" argument. He still has tons to prove. He hasn't even played a single post-season game, and as you mentioned there's a good chance he won't this season either if he stays with the Sea Dogs. He almost certainly won't be winning any this season with the Sea Dogs. Also anyone that has watched this team the past 2 seasons would likely tell you that D'Orio looked more impressive last season than he does this season. I'm not saying he's a lock to be back in the Q next year but I think he's far from a lock to be turning pro, especially if he stays with the Sea Dogs. Also, if you are correct about Georgie wanting more for him because he believe he'll be back as a 20 next season (no idea if that's true or not but let's go with that assumption), don't you think that Georgie might have more information available to him about that than you or I? Perhaps he's been in contact with the Penguins organization and they've communicated their intentions to him. If he is back in the Q next season, either with the Sea Dogs or another team, he will almost certainly have a better team in front of him and his numbers will be much better. It's good to read well thought and intelligent comments. |
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Post by bois on Jan 2, 2019 9:22:41 GMT -4
If the Seadogs are trying to sell him as a one and a half year player........ all the buying team has to do is make the next year part of the trade conditional to protect themselves in case he does wind up turning pro.
Still a week to go.... can not imagine Saint John not moving him..... maybe the price will come down between now and deadline
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 2, 2019 11:40:55 GMT -4
If the Seadogs are trying to sell him as a one and a half year player........ all the buying team has to do is make the next year part of the trade conditional to protect themselves in case he does wind up turning pro. Still a week to go.... can not imagine Saint John not moving him..... maybe the price will come down between now and deadline Here's the other side of that though: Say you're CB and targeting next year while wanting some success this year. Is D'Orio worth the gamble that means you likely need to move your 18yr old NHL drafted goaltender after the vote of non-confidence in acquiring an older goaltender while praying D'Orio returns? Or do you save your assets, role with what you have, and if D'Orio does return try and acquire him then if you're still not sold on your current option? I can see a Halifax having interest only from the point of view of wanting another veteran option and the market not having a lot of impact players left that are attainable for reasonable returns. And that interest would only be after the price comes down. For most other contenders they have their goalies in place and making a move for D'Orio would mean a chain reaction of other moves needing to happen first. |
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Post by bois on Jan 2, 2019 11:43:50 GMT -4
If the Seadogs are trying to sell him as a one and a half year player........ all the buying team has to do is make the next year part of the trade conditional to protect themselves in case he does wind up turning pro. Still a week to go.... can not imagine Saint John not moving him..... maybe the price will come down between now and deadline Here's the other side of that though: Say you're CB and targeting next year while wanting some success this year. Is D'Orio worth the gamble that means you likely need to move your 18yr old NHL drafted goaltender after the vote of non-confidence in acquiring an older goaltender while praying D'Orio returns? Or do you save your assets, role with what you have, and if D'Orio does return try and acquire him then if you're still not sold on your current option? I can see a Halifax having interest only from the point of view of wanting another veteran option and the market not having a lot of impact players left that are attainable for reasonable returns. And that interest would only be after the price comes down. For most other contenders they have their goalies in place and making a move for D'Orio would mean a chain reaction of other moves needing to happen first. Yep i still think Halifax is the logical final destination for him but the Sherbrooke possibility is still there as well and i'll toss a complete wildcard in the mix.... Chicoutimi |
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Post by bois on Jan 2, 2019 11:45:31 GMT -4
to further the Sherbrooke side of things.... rumours are out there they have traded Cregan which opens up a spot immediately for D'orio
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Post by ysj28 on Jan 2, 2019 13:03:56 GMT -4
to further the Sherbrooke side of things.... rumours are out there they have traded Cregan which opens up a spot immediately for D'orio Dakota Lund Cornish to Sherbrooke for a 4th and 9th |
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Post by killer on Jan 2, 2019 13:24:53 GMT -4
D'ORIO is running out of places to be traded to and his value is dropping by the day.... Georgie has really painted himself into a corner by screwing up the deal with Baie- Comeau. Our most valuable asset is barely worth trading at this point.
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Post by ysj28 on Jan 2, 2019 13:31:18 GMT -4
D'ORIO is running out of places to be traded to and his value is dropping by the day.... Georgie has really painted himself into a corner by screwing up the deal with Baie- Comeau. Our most valuable asset is barely worth trading at this point. How did he screw up the deal? What was the deal? |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Jan 2, 2019 13:36:15 GMT -4
I don't believe the deal for Dakota Lund Cornish to Sherbrooke had anything to do with D'Orio. Do you honeestly think that Sherbrooke were looking to make a change between the pipes and they decided to go with Dakota Lund Cornish over D'Orio?
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Jan 2, 2019 13:41:33 GMT -4
I don't believe the deal for Dakota Lund Cornish to Sherbrooke had anything to do with D'Orio. Do you honeestly think that Sherbrooke were looking to make a change between the pipes and they decided to go with Dakota Lund Cornish over D'Orio? Depends. They may have felt the asking price for D'Orio was too steep so elected instead to stick with what they got but shore up the back-up with a cheaper option. Not necessarily D'Orio v Lund-Cornish but the best value option. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 2, 2019 13:43:31 GMT -4
D'ORIO is running out of places to be traded to and his value is dropping by the day.... Georgie has really painted himself into a corner by screwing up the deal with Baie- Comeau. Our most valuable asset is barely worth trading at this point. Half the league has rumored to go there over the last few weeks. Can't believe everything you hear. BC made 2 lateral goalie moves in moving Jessiman for Baribeau and Blanchette for Fitzpatrick both in 1 for 1 deals. I doubt paying a big price for D'Orio was ever realistic unless it was part of a bigger chain reaction where if they got a Joseph they might have preferred to pay more for a goalie but based on what they did I don't think there was ever much there unless you wanted a Jessiman in return which I doubt you did. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 2, 2019 13:44:48 GMT -4
I don't believe the deal for Dakota Lund Cornish to Sherbrooke had anything to do with D'Orio. Do you honeestly think that Sherbrooke were looking to make a change between the pipes and they decided to go with Dakota Lund Cornish over D'Orio? If they weren't looking to win this year acquiring a cheap 2000 born with some untapped potential makes a lot more sense then giving up a good asset for a potential 3 months of D'Orio. |
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Post by Murph on Jan 2, 2019 14:44:00 GMT -4
At this point it’s likely any team picking up D’Orio will do so as insurance to their #1 guy (hfx, cb etc). Historically high end back up goalies fetch a 3rd round pick. There’s really no market to move him as a #1 guy
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Post by juliansteed on Jan 2, 2019 18:17:43 GMT -4
Well if he doesn't get traded, then it's more or less guaranteed that the WBS Penguins will still be playing when his junior season comes to an end. It will be interesting to see what the Penguins decide to do with D'Orio at that point. Whether or not he gets any AHL starts, and if so how well he performs could say a lot about what we can expect for next season.
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Post by Murph on Jan 2, 2019 18:45:36 GMT -4
Well if he doesn't get traded, then it's more or less guaranteed that the WBS Penguins will still be playing when his junior season comes to an end. It will be interesting to see what the Penguins decide to do with D'Orio at that point. Whether or not he gets any AHL starts, and if so how well he performs could say a lot about what we can expect for next season. Currently the Penguins have 5 goalies in their system and 3 of them are free agents. Jarry is RFA so they’ll likely retain him as the back up. DeSmith is in line for a huge raise and will likely sign where he can be a #1. He’s gone. Obviously they can add depth which could push D’Orio out of the AHL but because he’s 20 his contract kicks in regardless and where the Pens need to sign goalies it’s hard to believe they’d have one under contract playing in junior. |
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