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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 5, 2019 10:56:43 GMT -4
I expect Khovanov to play around 55 games and put up 80 points. His pace will slow plus he will miss almost a month.
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Post by catnut on Nov 5, 2019 11:05:04 GMT -4
I expect Khovanov to play around 55 games and put up 80 points. His pace will slow plus he will miss almost a month. So far, he's over 2 ppg and you expect him to go barely 1 ppg the rest of the way. That is really another level of slowing down. 90-100 would be more realistic based on his performance the last 2 years. |
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Post by jimmy on Nov 5, 2019 11:32:45 GMT -4
I expect Khovanov to play around 55 games and put up 80 points. His pace will slow plus he will miss almost a month. If he doesn't get hurt, I would expect his pace to pick up if anything in the second half - with the Cats looking to load up, and several teams bound to sell off, there are always some one-sided blow-outs where top players get a chance to rack up the multi-point nights. |
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Post by bois on Nov 5, 2019 11:42:52 GMT -4
I expect Khovanov to play around 55 games and put up 80 points. His pace will slow plus he will miss almost a month. If he doesn't get hurt, I would expect his pace to pick up if anything in the second half - with the Cats looking to load up, and several teams bound to sell off, there are always some one-sided blow-outs where top players get a chance to rack up the multi-point nights. while Billy's post seems silly this also seems silly when's the last time a player actually produced at above 2 PPG for an entire season in the Q and you expect Khovanov to increase his current 2.14? |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 5, 2019 11:49:36 GMT -4
I expect Khovanov to play around 55 games and put up 80 points. His pace will slow plus he will miss almost a month. If he doesn't get hurt, I would expect his pace to pick up if anything in the second half - with the Cats looking to load up, and several teams bound to sell off, there are always some one-sided blow-outs where top players get a chance to rack up the multi-point nights. If they add up front it will cut into their ice time, right now they are plying the top 2 lines a ton and giving the 3rd and 4th a shift here and there. I expect a couple of vets added up front. |
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Post by jimmy on Nov 5, 2019 11:53:40 GMT -4
If he doesn't get hurt, I would expect his pace to pick up if anything in the second half - with the Cats looking to load up, and several teams bound to sell off, there are always some one-sided blow-outs where top players get a chance to rack up the multi-point nights. while Billy's post seems silly this also seems silly when's the last time a player actually produced at above 2 PPG for an entire season in the Q and you expect Khovanov to increase his current 2.14? Good point - I didn't look at the numbers too closely. That said, I would be curious to see if the top scorers on contending teams see their production increase or decrease after the trade period historically. My hunch is that it goes up ... but perhaps I am wrong. Captain Obvious' point about added depth meaning a bit less ice time does make sense - but overall team production likely increases. |
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Post by catzfans on Nov 5, 2019 12:19:34 GMT -4
If he doesn't get hurt, I would expect his pace to pick up if anything in the second half - with the Cats looking to load up, and several teams bound to sell off, there are always some one-sided blow-outs where top players get a chance to rack up the multi-point nights. while Billy's post seems silly this also seems silly when's the last time a player actually produced at above 2 PPG for an entire season in the Q and you expect Khovanov to increase his current 2.14? The top 2 scorers in the league right now are almost at 2.5 PPG so it's possible. |
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Post by bois on Nov 5, 2019 12:42:14 GMT -4
while Billy's post seems silly this also seems silly when's the last time a player actually produced at above 2 PPG for an entire season in the Q and you expect Khovanov to increase his current 2.14? The top 2 scorers in the league right now are almost at 2.5 PPG so it's possible. never said it wasn't possible it's also November and the season is only a quarter of the way done.... PPG totals usually go down as the sample size increases i do think Lafrenniere will stay at or above 2... tho but not 2.5 |
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Post by lirette on Nov 5, 2019 12:59:06 GMT -4
while Billy's post seems silly this also seems silly when's the last time a player actually produced at above 2 PPG for an entire season in the Q and you expect Khovanov to increase his current 2.14? Good point - I didn't look at the numbers too closely. That said, I would be curious to see if the top scorers on contending teams see their production increase or decrease after the trade period historically. My hunch is that it goes up ... but perhaps I am wrong. Captain Obvious' point about added depth meaning a bit less ice time does make sense - but overall team production likely increases. At the same time though if there's a slight change in ice time it likely cancels out with the fact that Khovanov and Pelletier would be playing with a better linemate. The last month they've been playing with Rumsey and most recently D'Aoust. Has actually been great for a guy like Rumsey to show what he's capable of with better players. I expect after the trade period they are playing with someone with more skill. |
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Post by riverviewroyal on Nov 5, 2019 13:05:57 GMT -4
If he doesn't get hurt, I would expect his pace to pick up if anything in the second half - with the Cats looking to load up, and several teams bound to sell off, there are always some one-sided blow-outs where top players get a chance to rack up the multi-point nights. while Billy's post seems silly this also seems silly when's the last time a player actually produced at above 2 PPG for an entire season in the Q and you expect Khovanov to increase his current 2.14? A little easy research... How about the guy who wildcats "fans" somehow had a hard-on for hating not too long ago that actually played on the damn team? : Conor Garland: 2015-2016 season: 2.06 PPG , was at virtually the same pace the year before as well Also there was Nik Ehlers who was at a 1.98 PPG in 2014-2015 (May as well round up?) Anthony Mantha: 2.11 PPG in 2013-2014 Jonathan Drouin: 2.35 PPG in 2013-2014 ....... & 2.14 PPG in 2012-2013 So no, it's not silly to think that Khovy or any player can get above a 2 PPG pace for the run of a season. All depends on his and his linemates' production |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Nov 5, 2019 13:10:20 GMT -4
another note on Khovanov, He really hasn't had many cheap points either from what I've seen. Only 4 of 28 points on the PP which is a pretty low rate.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Nov 5, 2019 13:13:26 GMT -4
If he doesn't get hurt, I would expect his pace to pick up if anything in the second half - with the Cats looking to load up, and several teams bound to sell off, there are always some one-sided blow-outs where top players get a chance to rack up the multi-point nights. while Billy's post seems silly this also seems silly when's the last time a player actually produced at above 2 PPG for an entire season in the Q and you expect Khovanov to increase his current 2.14? Last time was Garland in 15-16 and Ehlers was almost there the season before. Drouin did it twice in 12-13 and 13-14. Mantha also did it in 13-14. So while not regular it is possible for elite players to go 2 PPG. |
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Post by jimmy on Nov 5, 2019 13:13:31 GMT -4
Very quick research at our past championship teams ... in 2005/06, Philippe Dupuis was our leading scorer with 108 points in 56 games - he scored at a 1.71 PPG pace until the end of December (48 points in 28 games), then increased his scoring to 2.14 PPG in the 2nd half (60 points in 28 games). So there is one example to support my theory ... but obviously a very small sample size. I looked at our 2009/10 team, but there wasn't really a comparable as we brought in essentially a new top line mid-season (Deschamps, Bourque, and Tessier - and yes, I realize they did not all play together, but three high impact forwards nonetheless).
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Post by bois on Nov 5, 2019 13:15:18 GMT -4
while Billy's post seems silly this also seems silly when's the last time a player actually produced at above 2 PPG for an entire season in the Q and you expect Khovanov to increase his current 2.14? A little easy research... How about the guy who wildcats "fans" somehow had a hard-on for hating not too long ago that actually played on the damn team? : Conor Garland: 2015-2016 season: 2.06 PPG , was at virtually the same pace the year before as well Also there was Nik Ehlers who was at a 1.98 PPG in 2014-2015 (May as well round up?) Anthony Mantha: 2.11 PPG in 2013-2014 Jonathan Drouin: 2.35 PPG in 2013-2014 ....... & 2.14 PPG in 2012-2013 So no, it's not silly to think that Khovy or any player can get above a 2 PPG pace for the run of a season. All depends on his and his linemates' production okay i stand corrected thanks but my silly comment was suggesting his production would actually go up from 2.14 i was legitimately asking the question about when the last time someone had over 2 PPG for an entire season was and it's actually happened recently and more often than I thought thanks for answering it for more reference i looked at Garland's stat distribution that year he did it he had 88 points at the end of DEcember.... after trade period his production went way down 46 points in last 26 games (1.77 compared to 88 in first 36 2.44) so yeah thinking someone's production will go up from insane early season numbers is still silly in my opinion |
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Post by jimmy on Nov 5, 2019 13:20:21 GMT -4
A little easy research... How about the guy who wildcats "fans" somehow had a hard-on for hating not too long ago that actually played on the damn team? : Conor Garland: 2015-2016 season: 2.06 PPG , was at virtually the same pace the year before as well Also there was Nik Ehlers who was at a 1.98 PPG in 2014-2015 (May as well round up?) Anthony Mantha: 2.11 PPG in 2013-2014 Jonathan Drouin: 2.35 PPG in 2013-2014 ....... & 2.14 PPG in 2012-2013 So no, it's not silly to think that Khovy or any player can get above a 2 PPG pace for the run of a season. All depends on his and his linemates' production okay i stand corrected thanks but my silly comment was suggesting his production would actually go up from 2.14 i was legitimately asking the question about when the last time someone had over 2 PPG for an entire season was and it's actually happened recently and more often than I thought thanks for answering it for more reference i looked at Garland's stat distribution that year he did it he had 88 points at the end of DEcember.... after trade period his production went way down 46 points in last 26 games (1.77 compared to 88 in first 36 2.44) so yeah thinking someone's production will go up from insane early season numbers is still silly in my opinion You are correct, Garland's production did go down the 2nd year he won the scoring championship, significantly at that. But in his first year of winning the scoring championship, he went from 1.81 PPG in the first half to 2.07 PPG in the second half. And in neither year did the team load up for a championship run, hence why I discounted it as a comparable. On the Mooseheads 2013 championship team, Drouin scored 2 PPG in the 1st half and then upped it to 2.28 PPG in the second half. |
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