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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Nov 5, 2019 13:22:03 GMT -4
A little easy research... How about the guy who wildcats "fans" somehow had a hard-on for hating not too long ago that actually played on the damn team? : Conor Garland: 2015-2016 season: 2.06 PPG , was at virtually the same pace the year before as well Also there was Nik Ehlers who was at a 1.98 PPG in 2014-2015 (May as well round up?) Anthony Mantha: 2.11 PPG in 2013-2014 Jonathan Drouin: 2.35 PPG in 2013-2014 ....... & 2.14 PPG in 2012-2013 So no, it's not silly to think that Khovy or any player can get above a 2 PPG pace for the run of a season. All depends on his and his linemates' production okay i stand corrected thanks but my silly comment was suggesting his production would actually go up from 2.14 i was legitimately asking the question about when the last time someone had over 2 PPG for an entire season was and it's actually happened recently and more often than I thought thanks for answering it for more reference i looked at Garland's stat distribution that year he did it he had 88 points at the end of DEcember.... after trade period his production went way down 46 points in last 26 games (1.77 compared to 88 in first 36 2.44) so yeah thinking someone's production will go up from insane early season numbers is still silly in my opinion Take Drouin's 13-14 season to show it can be done with good linemates first half of the season 2.17PPG second half of the season 2.52PPG play-offs 2.56PPG |
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Post by bois on Nov 5, 2019 13:26:26 GMT -4
took it a little further cuz yeah that's what i do
Mantha the year he did it.. 47 points after December in 25 games (1.88)... prior to 73 points in 32 games (2.28)
Drouin (asterisk right away because 48 and 49 games well a pretty good sample size... to me doesn't ensure he keeps that pace up if he plays 60 plus but sure semantics aside)
2013-14 he did increase his production his last 13 games he put up 35 points... so he fits the criteria.. grant it to you 50 in 23 before January (2.17).... 58 in 23 after (bolsted by huge finish) (2.52)
2012-13 48 in 24 before January (2.0) 57 in 25 after (2.28)
so yeah in the last 7 years it's been done..... by one guy who did it twice
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Post by bois on Nov 5, 2019 13:27:38 GMT -4
okay i stand corrected thanks but my silly comment was suggesting his production would actually go up from 2.14 i was legitimately asking the question about when the last time someone had over 2 PPG for an entire season was and it's actually happened recently and more often than I thought thanks for answering it for more reference i looked at Garland's stat distribution that year he did it he had 88 points at the end of DEcember.... after trade period his production went way down 46 points in last 26 games (1.77 compared to 88 in first 36 2.44) so yeah thinking someone's production will go up from insane early season numbers is still silly in my opinion Take Drouin's 13-14 season to show it can be done with good linemates first half of the season 2.17PPG second half of the season 2.52PPG play-offs 2.56PPG already did along with examining the seasons of all the other guys mentioned |
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Post by jimmy on Nov 5, 2019 13:43:01 GMT -4
took it a little further cuz yeah that's what i do Mantha the year he did it.. 47 points after December in 25 games (1.88)... prior to 73 points in 32 games (2.28) Drouin (asterisk right away because 48 and 49 games well a pretty good sample size... to me doesn't ensure he keeps that pace up if he plays 60 plus but sure semantics aside) 2013-14 he did increase his production his last 13 games he put up 35 points... so he fits the criteria.. grant it to you 50 in 23 before January (2.17).... 58 in 23 after (bolsted by huge finish) (2.52) 2012-13 48 in 24 before January (2.0) 57 in 25 after (2.28) so yeah in the last 7 years it's been done..... by one guy who did it twice For the record, I am not saying Khovanov will or won't up his production .. merely theorizing that it is conceivable that a top scorer on a contender will increase his scoring output in the second half as his team gains strength, and enjoys numerous second half blow-outs over opponents who sold off. I was able to find a couple of examples that seem to suggest this might be true, and you have shown a few to suggest it might not be ... will be interesting to see what happens to Khovanov and the Cats this season. |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 5, 2019 15:05:43 GMT -4
If he doesn't get hurt, I would expect his pace to pick up if anything in the second half - with the Cats looking to load up, and several teams bound to sell off, there are always some one-sided blow-outs where top players get a chance to rack up the multi-point nights. If they add up front it will cut into their ice time, right now they are plying the top 2 lines a ton and giving the 3rd and 4th a shift here and there. I expect a couple of vets added up front. Not sure what you are watching but we roll three lines and fit the 4th line in often ... 3-4 shifts per period. Sure our top 9 get more icetime because they get PP time (top 6) and PK time (top 9). If we add more to the top 6 its not going to effect Khovanov's icetime unless they take him off the PK. |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 5, 2019 15:21:41 GMT -4
I think it all depends on the team's schedule. If the 2nd half is full of games with bottom half opponents then you can have several opportunities to pad the stats. If you play in a division with four teams that are near the top of the standings then it becomes much tougher to keep the pace. So it depends on what Halifax and Charlottetown do during the trade period to see how much weaker (or stronger) our division will get.
I don't really see what Khovanov is doing as "insane" ... he just distributes the puck very well, and shoots well, and skates well and has good linemates that can finish for him. I don't think he is on any sort of crazy pace ... but rather just playing his game. He has gotten away from the stupid penalties and letting players get under his skin ... and far less embellishing ... and he is just focusing on playing hockey and having productive shifts.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 5, 2019 17:00:31 GMT -4
If they add up front it will cut into their ice time, right now they are plying the top 2 lines a ton and giving the 3rd and 4th a shift here and there. I expect a couple of vets added up front. Not sure what you are watching but we roll three lines and fit the 4th line in often ... 3-4 shifts per period. Sure our top 9 get more icetime because they get PP time (top 6) and PK time (top 9). If we add more to the top 6 its not going to effect Khovanov's icetime unless they take him off the PK. The games I watch sometimes sees the 1st and 2nd line get 2 shifts between 3rd line shifts. There is a big dropoff to the 3rd line. |
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