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Post by catzfans on Jan 26, 2020 16:09:39 GMT -4
Strange that L’Heureux is playing behind Desnoyers if Desnoyers is indeed leaving and L’Heureux staying. He was a healthy scratch and serving penalties. I think there are a couple of things at play here. Since most 16 year olds fade down the stretch from the longer season and tougher competition,I am guessing that they are trying to limit his minutes down the stretch so he’s fresher for the playoffs. But since he’s now on the 4th line, no PP time except for the last one, serving penalties like you pointed out, healthy scratch...I would say he’s a little bit in the doghouse with the new coaching staff for whatever reason(s). Which I find crazy because he’s my favourite 16 year old rookie that the Cats have ever put on the ice. Ahead of both Pelletier and Bernier. And for what it’s worth...I think he’s part of the trade to Halifax and we will lose him at the draft. Of course we'd like to see L'Heureux get big minutes but I don't think it is strange at all. Who in the Top 9 would you take out right now. I think with the way Daoust has improved he's taken the 3rd Line Center role and run with it. The reality is he's 16 with plenty of veterans in front of him with experience. He's still going to get plenty of opportunities so I don't think it's worth anyone getting upset or reading to much into it.
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Post by pong on Jan 26, 2020 16:19:04 GMT -4
I think there are a couple of things at play here. Since most 16 year olds fade down the stretch from the longer season and tougher competition,I am guessing that they are trying to limit his minutes down the stretch so he’s fresher for the playoffs. But since he’s now on the 4th line, no PP time except for the last one, serving penalties like you pointed out, healthy scratch...I would say he’s a little bit in the doghouse with the new coaching staff for whatever reason(s). Which I find crazy because he’s my favourite 16 year old rookie that the Cats have ever put on the ice. Ahead of both Pelletier and Bernier. And for what it’s worth...I think he’s part of the trade to Halifax and we will lose him at the draft. Of course we'd like to see L'Heureux get big minutes but I don't think it is strange at all. Who in the Top 9 would you take out right now. I think with the way Daoust has improved he's taken the 3rd Line Center role and run with it. The reality is he's 16 with plenty of veterans in front of him with experience. He's still going to get plenty of opportunities so I don't think it's worth anyone getting upset or reading to much into it. No, I get that and I agree with most of what you just wrote. I’m more upset that the kid line was broken up, because BOTH Desnoyers and D’Aoust got their respective games going while playing on that line with ZL
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Post by Doug Glatt on Jan 26, 2020 18:07:15 GMT -4
What a scrap! Didn't realize Hudson could throw'em.
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Post by jimmy on Jan 26, 2020 18:43:55 GMT -4
I see Edwards got a 5 min major for hit to the head - anyone injured on our end?
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Post by dutchinc on Jan 26, 2020 18:48:32 GMT -4
I see Edwards got a 5 min major for hit to the head - anyone injured on our end? No. It was quite soft tbh.
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Post by countryboy on Jan 26, 2020 19:38:20 GMT -4
Edwards hit Cyr. I agree....pretty soft call. I see Edwards got a 5 min major for hit to the head - anyone injured on our end?
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Post by hfxfan09 on Jan 26, 2020 19:47:42 GMT -4
I think there are a couple of things at play here. Since most 16 year olds fade down the stretch from the longer season and tougher competition,I am guessing that they are trying to limit his minutes down the stretch so he’s fresher for the playoffs. But since he’s now on the 4th line, no PP time except for the last one, serving penalties like you pointed out, healthy scratch...I would say he’s a little bit in the doghouse with the new coaching staff for whatever reason(s). Which I find crazy because he’s my favourite 16 year old rookie that the Cats have ever put on the ice. Ahead of both Pelletier and Bernier. And for what it’s worth...I think he’s part of the trade to Halifax and we will lose him at the draft. Of course we'd like to see L'Heureux get big minutes but I don't think it is strange at all. Who in the Top 9 would you take out right now. I think with the way Daoust has improved he's taken the 3rd Line Center role and run with it. The reality is he's 16 with plenty of veterans in front of him with experience. He's still going to get plenty of opportunities so I don't think it's worth anyone getting upset or reading to much into it. Rumor has always been we get Pelletier and Spence at the draft, but if you want to give us Desnoyers too that would be great.
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Post by twister on Jan 26, 2020 20:01:44 GMT -4
Of course we'd like to see L'Heureux get big minutes but I don't think it is strange at all. Who in the Top 9 would you take out right now. I think with the way Daoust has improved he's taken the 3rd Line Center role and run with it. The reality is he's 16 with plenty of veterans in front of him with experience. He's still going to get plenty of opportunities so I don't think it's worth anyone getting upset or reading to much into it. No, I get that and I agree with most of what you just wrote. I’m more upset that the kid line was broken up, because BOTH Desnoyers and D’Aoust got their respective games going while playing on that line with ZL Lacroix should bring back the kid line or make three power line : Pelletier - Khovanov - ZL Fortier - Groulx - Desnoyers Daoust - Cyr - McKenna
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 26, 2020 20:15:33 GMT -4
Chicoutimi lost 2 this weekend ... makes it more realistic that we catch them.
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Post by lirette on Jan 26, 2020 20:33:26 GMT -4
What a scrap! Didn't realize Hudson could throw'em. Kind of wonder if this stemmed from the last time Moncton was in Charlottetown at the end of the game. Stewart asked Casey to go at the Dec 28th game but he said no. Seemed like there was some passion behind it compared to most staged fights.
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 27, 2020 8:38:46 GMT -4
Edwards hit Cyr. I agree....pretty soft call. I see Edwards got a 5 min major for hit to the head - anyone injured on our end? I don't think it was soft. Any hit to the head should be a 5:00 minute penalty ... its too risky to be soft on hits like that. I'm not suggesting that he should be suspended as that should be a case by case decision. If the Q is selling itself as a place for students to play hockey then they have to be strong on protecting the head.
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Post by pinkbeaver on Jan 27, 2020 9:06:34 GMT -4
Edwards hit Cyr. I agree....pretty soft call. I don't think it was soft. Any hit to the head should be a 5:00 minute penalty ... its too risky to be soft on hits like that. I'm not suggesting that he should be suspended as that should be a case by case decision. If the Q is selling itself as a place for students to play hockey then they have to be strong on protecting the head. I do agree players need to be protected from big hits that lead to concussions. With that said there absolutely needs to be discretion when handing out major penalties for hits to the head. If all head contact is to result in a major penalty I think coaches will need to tell their players not to hit at all and simply rub out at the most. a 5 minute major didn't effect the result of this game, but they do a lot of the time. I think hockey is heading towards a game without checking. it's a matter of time.
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Post by countryboy on Jan 27, 2020 9:19:15 GMT -4
What are the current rules in the Q for checking to the head penalties? Do our referees assess either a minor or a major for checking to the head? If there was an option for 2 or 5 plus game, I feel this hit should warrant the two minute penalty. Maybe the Q only has the major for checking to the head. And then I’m not sure on supplementary discipline either.....and I can’t even begin to try to understand how the league rules on that. Last weekend Casey responded to a late hit by ignoring the puck altogether, skating half the length of the ice, and rammed Trenholm from Cape Breton into the boards with a head shot after the whistle had blown. He was assessed a match penalty on the play. Following the game I was on the Charlottetown board speculating that he might face 12-15 games for such a flagrant reaction.....and I didn’t receive much in the way of disagreement from other posters. The result....2 game suspension. We will see what Edwards will face. Edwards hit Cyr. I agree....pretty soft call. I don't think it was soft. Any hit to the head should be a 5:00 minute penalty ... its too risky to be soft on hits like that. I'm not suggesting that he should be suspended as that should be a case by case decision. If the Q is selling itself as a place for students to play hockey then they have to be strong on protecting the head.
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 27, 2020 9:34:30 GMT -4
I don't think it was soft. Any hit to the head should be a 5:00 minute penalty ... its too risky to be soft on hits like that. I'm not suggesting that he should be suspended as that should be a case by case decision. If the Q is selling itself as a place for students to play hockey then they have to be strong on protecting the head. I do agree players need to be protected from big hits that lead to concussions. With that said there absolutely needs to be discretion when handing out major penalties for hits to the head. If all head contact is to result in a major penalty I think coaches will need to tell their players not to hit at all and simply rub out at the most. a 5 minute major didn't effect the result of this game, but they do a lot of the time. I think hockey is heading towards a game without checking. it's a matter of time. The major didn't affect the game because after the hit, Spence and Edwards grappled. Edwards dropped his gloves (one second after the hit) and Spence did not but they wrestled and no punches were thrown (it wasn't a fight). Edwards was not given the roughing minor but Spence was, even though both did the exact same thing, which took the steam out of the major.
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Post by pinkbeaver on Jan 27, 2020 9:44:55 GMT -4
I do agree players need to be protected from big hits that lead to concussions. With that said there absolutely needs to be discretion when handing out major penalties for hits to the head. If all head contact is to result in a major penalty I think coaches will need to tell their players not to hit at all and simply rub out at the most. a 5 minute major didn't effect the result of this game, but they do a lot of the time. I think hockey is heading towards a game without checking. it's a matter of time. The major didn't affect the game because after the hit, Spence and Edwards grappled. Edwards dropped his gloves (one second after the hit) and Spence did not but they wrestled and no punches were thrown (it wasn't a fight). Edwards was not given the roughing minor but Spence was, even though both did the exact same thing, which took the steam out of the major. Gotcha. I didn't see the hit so I can't comment there. I just don't think all hits that contact the head are created equally and discretion on when to call a major is very important. I hope they don't take fighting out of the game personally, but it seems counter intuitive to allow guys to tee off on each other in an old school classic tilt where I'm sure both guys had there bell wrung afterwards. But then hand out game misconducts on a minor hit. Again, I didn't see the hit so I'm generalizing my statement a little bit.
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