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Post by hockeyfanatic on Nov 7, 2019 0:42:46 GMT -4
anyone hearing that we are looking at Dawson Mercer from the voltigeurs ? what would his value be ?
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Post by switchback on Nov 7, 2019 7:19:26 GMT -4
A lot
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Post by mav on Nov 7, 2019 7:31:27 GMT -4
Ill go at it from a different angle.
If we go all in we could add:
1 top liner
1 2nd liner
1 3rd liner
1 top 4 dman
1 backup goalie...only because i think Lavallee will be trade bait for the other deals...otherwise this can be removed from the list.
I see Element as a perfect fit on the 3rd line with Hudson and L'Heureux.
Do we replace Desnoyers with a Fortier??
Would Lavoie be able to play with khovanov?
Does Dobson come?
Will MacIsaac make an impact?
I dont even think we have enough assets for all that...my guess is we can afford Element and one or two more...it may cost a wee bit less to only deal with one team for 2 assets..BC or Hfx??
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Post by jimmy on Nov 7, 2019 8:14:37 GMT -4
Mercer would cost a lot - but would retain a portion of his value to be traded at the draft or next Xmas ... or potentially allow us to make back-to-back runs (not sure yet at this point how or if we could pull that one off - haven't thought that far ahead).
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 8:42:02 GMT -4
Mercer would cost a lot - but would retain a portion of his value to be traded at the draft or next Xmas ... or potentially allow us to make back-to-back runs (not sure yet at this point how or if we could pull that one off - haven't thought that far ahead). If the WC go for it this year, they have to rebuild next year. 1st, most of the core will be gone…Khovanov, Cyr, McKenna Rodrigue, Andersson, Huntnley, 2nd-some of the returning players will need to go in trades(now or at the draft) to add any kind of impact player. I think there is no doubt they will be a buyer and go big game hunting, the question is, will they add 1 big chip or two or three and really trade big names as futures(Pelletier Spence L’heureux). |
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Post by Doug Glatt on Nov 7, 2019 9:06:24 GMT -4
I hope they add three pieces. Whether it's Mercer, Lavoie or another similar player for the first line, they need to add in this spot. Element for the third line just makes sense. A top 3 D is also a must. If they are serious about making a REAL run this year, this is how I want then to do it. I know it will cost a lot in futures, but what a season this could be. Don't want to see them miss out on a golden opportunity to separate themselves from the pack. Pelletier - Khovanov - Mercer/Lavoie Desnoyers - Cyr - McKenna L'Heureux - Hudson - Element Foreman - Stewart - King Bergeron/McIsaac - Andersson Huntley - Spence  ? - DeJong Rodrigue Lavallee This is an ideal roster post Christmas deadline, but I can't help but think they will only tinker. The one time in my life I hope Irving meddles and forces the all in chip on Torchetti 😁. |
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Post by tal on Nov 7, 2019 9:07:00 GMT -4
I wonder what Lavoie would cost if Halifax sells this year.
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Post by jimmy on Nov 7, 2019 9:08:30 GMT -4
Mercer would cost a lot - but would retain a portion of his value to be traded at the draft or next Xmas ... or potentially allow us to make back-to-back runs (not sure yet at this point how or if we could pull that one off - haven't thought that far ahead). If the WC go for it this year, they have to rebuild next year. 1st, most of the core will be gone…Khovanov, Cyr, McKenna Rodrigue, Andersson, Huntnley, 2nd-some of the returning players will need to go in trades(now or at the draft) to add any kind of impact player. I am inclined to agree ... unless they really mortgage the future to an insane degree, I don't see how they could pull off back to back runs ... but just for argument's sake, if they somehow managed to land Mercer, and retain Pelletier, Spence, L'Heureux, Desnoyers and Lavallee (I know, highly unlikely) ... and then hit a home run with two new euros next year ... that would be a core group you could build a 2020-21 contender around I think ... but you would be pushing the ball down the road, with a big crash coming at some point. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Nov 7, 2019 9:09:18 GMT -4
Mercer would cost a lot - but would retain a portion of his value to be traded at the draft or next Xmas ... or potentially allow us to make back-to-back runs (not sure yet at this point how or if we could pull that one off - haven't thought that far ahead). If the WC go for it this year, they have to rebuild next year. 1st, most of the core will be gone…Khovanov, Cyr, McKenna Rodrigue, Andersson, Huntnley, 2nd-some of the returning players will need to go in trades(now or at the draft) to add any kind of impact player. I think there is no doubt they will be a buyer and go big game hunting, the question is, will they add 1 big chip or two or three and really trade big names as futures(Pelletier Spence L’heureux). I think they will try to avoid trading Pelletier and L'Heureux. Only scenario I see that happening is if Noah Dobson is back. Hang on to Pelletier until at least next Christmas. Should be able to recuperate assets lost going all-in this season. I can definitely see Desnoyers, Spence and Lavallee used as futures. They are quality players to be part of deals. Chicoutimi aren't willing to sacrifice Lapierre and Rochette. Cape Breton has a lot of assets but not many high-end guys. Sherbrooke has Guay and Mianscum but not much after them two. Everything I've heard is that Moncton will be going after the BEST players available. Rumour on the Halifax board is that Jared MacIsaac is only willing to waive his NTC to come to the Wildcats. Get him then add guys like Element and Fortier and things are looking good! |
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Post by mav on Nov 7, 2019 9:11:13 GMT -4
I hope they add three pieces. Whether it's Mercer, Lavoie or another similar player for the first line, they need to add in this spot. Element for the third line just makes sense. A top 3 D is also a must. If they are serious about making a REAL run this year, this is how I want then to do it. I know it will cost a lot in futures, but what a season this could be. Don't want to see them miss out on a golden opportunity to separate themselves from the pack. Pelletier - Khovanov - Mercer/Lavoie Desnoyers - Cyr - McKenna L'Heureux - Hudson - Element Foreman - Stewart - King Bergeron/McIsaac - Andersson Huntley - Spence ? - DeJong Rodrigue Lavallee This is an ideal roster post Christmas deadline, but I can't help but think they will only tinker. The one time in my life I hope Irving meddles and forces the all in chip on Torchetti 😁. The only problem with your roster is that you havent subtracted...ANYTHING.... |
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Nov 7, 2019 9:13:47 GMT -4
If they going after MacIsaac , I hope try to get Horvath too. Guy would be perfect for our bottom pairing and would likely be on the cheaper side. Also if Lavalle if headed the other way , Cole McLaren would make a great back this season and starter next season.
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Post by jimmy on Nov 7, 2019 9:13:47 GMT -4
I hope they add three pieces. Whether it's Mercer, Lavoie or another similar player for the first line, they need to add in this spot. Element for the third line just makes sense. A top 3 D is also a must. If they are serious about making a REAL run this year, this is how I want then to do it. I know it will cost a lot in futures, but what a season this could be. Don't want to see them miss out on a golden opportunity to separate themselves from the pack. Pelletier - Khovanov - Mercer/Lavoie Desnoyers - Cyr - McKenna L'Heureux - Hudson - Element Foreman - Stewart - King Bergeron/McIsaac - Andersson Huntley - Spence ? - DeJong Rodrigue Lavallee This is an ideal roster post Christmas deadline, but I can't help but think they will only tinker. The one time in my life I hope Irving meddles and forces the all in chip on Torchetti 😁. Up front, I think we could use a couple of two way forwards more than another pure offense guy ... with Pelletier, Khovanov, McKenna and Cyr, scoring goals should not be a problem ... a guy like B-O Groulx would be an ideal fit as a second line centre who could match up against top lines ... Element also. Mercer and Lavoie would be nice, but more of what we already have IMO ... same on defense - I think we need a physical, shut-down guy more than another offensive type - Andersson and Spence bring more than enough offense already. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 9:15:52 GMT -4
If the WC go for it this year, they have to rebuild next year. 1st, most of the core will be gone…Khovanov, Cyr, McKenna Rodrigue, Andersson, Huntnley, 2nd-some of the returning players will need to go in trades(now or at the draft) to add any kind of impact player. I think there is no doubt they will be a buyer and go big game hunting, the question is, will they add 1 big chip or two or three and really trade big names as futures(Pelletier Spence L’heureux). I think they will try to avoid trading Pelletier and L'Heureux. Only scenario I see that happening is if Noah Dobson is back. Hang on to Pelletier until at least next Christmas. Should be able to recuperate assets lost going all-in this season. I can definitely see Desnoyers, Spence and Lavallee used as futures. They are quality players to be part of deals. Chicoutimi aren't willing to sacrifice Lapierre and Rochette. Cape Breton has a lot of assets but not many high-end guys. Sherbrooke has Guay and Mianscum but not much after them two. Everything I've heard is that Moncton will be going after the BEST players available. Rumour on the Halifax board is that Jared MacIsaac is only willing to waive his NTC to come to the Wildcats. Get him then add guys like Element and Fortier and things are looking good! Lavallee and Desnoyers could go right away depending on who they trade with. If you send those guys right away they likely have a fair bit more value but you have to then get a filler for those spots. |
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Post by mav on Nov 7, 2019 9:17:14 GMT -4
I hope they add three pieces. Whether it's Mercer, Lavoie or another similar player for the first line, they need to add in this spot. Element for the third line just makes sense. A top 3 D is also a must. If they are serious about making a REAL run this year, this is how I want then to do it. I know it will cost a lot in futures, but what a season this could be. Don't want to see them miss out on a golden opportunity to separate themselves from the pack. Pelletier - Khovanov - Mercer/Lavoie Desnoyers - Cyr - McKenna L'Heureux - Hudson - Element Foreman - Stewart - King Bergeron/McIsaac - Andersson Huntley - Spence ? - DeJong Rodrigue Lavallee This is an ideal roster post Christmas deadline, but I can't help but think they will only tinker. The one time in my life I hope Irving meddles and forces the all in chip on Torchetti 😁. Up front, I think we could use a couple of two way forwards more than another pure offense guy ... with Pelletier, Khovanov, McKenna and Cyr, scoring goals should not be a problem ... a guy like B-O Groulx would be an ideal fit as a second line centre who could match up against top lines ... Element also. Mercer and Lavoie would be nice, but more of what we already have IMO ... same on defense - I think we need a physical, shut-down guy more than another offensive type - Andersson and Spence bring more than enough offense already. Thr issue i have with Groulx is admittedly a 1st world problem...but where do you play him? I dont think you move Khovanov or Cyr...or do you? I think Lavoie on the top line Element on the 3rd and MacIsaac. |
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Post by cautious on Nov 7, 2019 9:17:55 GMT -4
Do you believe you will get Element and Fortier for gifts.?They will both cost players, and after gettingLavoie, Mercer and the rest of the dream, teams do not trade for less value, no first, second draft choices,and a lot of your younger prospects are gone.
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