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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 10:35:27 GMT -4
Do you believe you will get Element and Fortier for gifts.?They will both cost players, and after gettingLavoie, Mercer and the rest of the dream, teams do not trade for less value, no first, second draft choices,and a lot of your younger prospects are gone. What are you expecting Element to bring back ? My personal opinion is a guy like Hebert plus a 3rd rounder. If he has a really big market, maybe Desnoyers at the draft. |
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Post by lirette on Nov 7, 2019 10:37:22 GMT -4
found it.. i had posted it on cape breton board I agree that Cape Breton to me needs two top 4-5 D and a top 9 forward to really make a legit push..... upgrading one spot with a 20 seems like a no brainer... but Moncton can also upgrade on a 20 pretty easily.. especially if they do land Dobson or even MacIsaac.... Huntley is pretty marginal as is... keeping a 5-6 guy as a 20 if you have Dobson/Macisaac-Spence-Andersson already seems foolish to me..... grab a shutdown guy (Clavelle type) or top 6-9 forward (Skubel/Deakin-Poot/Robidoux/Grouchy).... makes sense if i'm Torchetti Upgrading Huntley with a 20 year old FW can make sense if you are adding 2 top 4 19 year old D..although I don't have much interest in Deakin-Poot/Skubel/Robidoux. Grouchy perhaps. If you are making that move I'd rather add a guy like Felix Bibeau who would bring more impact. I'd just prefer they have as much depth on defense as possible regardless of age and I don't see any 20 year old D I'd be dying to have. Noel is probably the best of them but I'm not convinced Val'Dor is selling. I don't see any other 20 year old defenseman that are a huge upgrade given how much better Huntley has looked in the last month. I'm not sure why I forgot DeJong in my earlier post. If they end up adding enough D that Stewart gets pushed to #7 they can easily put him in on the 4th line to add some physicality. |
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Post by joehockey on Nov 7, 2019 10:43:49 GMT -4
I also don’t necessarily think they’ll trade Desnoyers or Lavallee right away either, Lavallee being more likely to be traded right away though. I think they may be futures too. Well like i just said..i hope so. But i do think its unrealistic...but probably we lose one or 2...then the rest in futures. I wonder how the staff feel about selling off and having nothing left now that Bathurst has been struggling so much for 1.5yrs now... It’s definitely think it’s possible to hold onto the important guys and only send them as futures. Bathurst did the same two years ago when they traded some bottom roster guys but essentially no one else important until the off-season. Also, if the Wildcats think they can win, I doubt that they care if they suck for two years. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Nov 7, 2019 10:44:14 GMT -4
Up front, I think we could use a couple of two way forwards more than another pure offense guy ... with Pelletier, Khovanov, McKenna and Cyr, scoring goals should not be a problem ... a guy like B-O Groulx would be an ideal fit as a second line centre who could match up against top lines ... Element also. Mercer and Lavoie would be nice, but more of what we already have IMO ... same on defense - I think we need a physical, shut-down guy more than another offensive type - Andersson and Spence bring more than enough offense already. Thr issue i have with Groulx is admittedly a 1st world problem...but where do you play him? I dont think you move Khovanov or Cyr...or do you? I think Lavoie on the top line Element on the 3rd and MacIsaac. I don't think you add Groulx. Cyr is a 60+% face off guy and Khovanov is playing to well to move to the wing. I think Element or the equivalent player is the best bang for your buck at centre and then target an elite winger to trade for using a future. I'd much rather see them add depth pieces up front and the BPA on defense than the other way around. What would Lavallee's value be in a trade for say MacIsaac/Mercer/Lavoie/etc? He has played well this year in limited appearances and I would think his value would be quite high. (Valued at a 1st?) Trading him versus a Desnoyer would be optimal for the overall strength of the team. Pelletier - Khovanov - L'Heureux Desnoyer - Cyr - McKenna Hudson - Element - Rumsey Foreman - Stewart - King (maybe another depth forward to play bottom 6) Bergeron - Andersson Spence - A.Arsenault Huntley - Dejong I'd feel pretty comfortable with that lineup. |
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Post by catnut on Nov 7, 2019 10:51:15 GMT -4
Thr issue i have with Groulx is admittedly a 1st world problem...but where do you play him? I dont think you move Khovanov or Cyr...or do you? I think Lavoie on the top line Element on the 3rd and MacIsaac. I don't think you add Groulx. Cyr is a 60+% face off guy and Khovanov is playing to well to move to the wing. I think Element or the equivalent player is the best bang for your buck at centre and then target an elite winger to trade for using a future. I'd much rather see them add depth pieces up front and the BPA on defense than the other way around. What would Lavallee's value be in a trade for say MacIsaac/Mercer/Lavoie/etc? He has played well this year in limited appearances and I would think his value would be quite high. (Valued at a 1st?) Trading him versus a Desnoyer would be optimal for the overall strength of the team. Pelletier - Khovanov - L'Heureux Desnoyer - Cyr - McKenna Hudson - Element - Rumsey Foreman - Stewart - King (maybe another depth forward to play bottom 6) Bergeron - Andersson Spence - A.Arsenault Huntley - Dejong I'd feel pretty comfortable with that lineup. Bergeron is already promised to Chicoutimi. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Nov 7, 2019 10:56:19 GMT -4
I don't think you add Groulx. Cyr is a 60+% face off guy and Khovanov is playing to well to move to the wing. I think Element or the equivalent player is the best bang for your buck at centre and then target an elite winger to trade for using a future. I'd much rather see them add depth pieces up front and the BPA on defense than the other way around. What would Lavallee's value be in a trade for say MacIsaac/Mercer/Lavoie/etc? He has played well this year in limited appearances and I would think his value would be quite high. (Valued at a 1st?) Trading him versus a Desnoyer would be optimal for the overall strength of the team. Pelletier - Khovanov - L'Heureux Desnoyer - Cyr - McKenna Hudson - Element - Rumsey Foreman - Stewart - King (maybe another depth forward to play bottom 6) Bergeron - Andersson Spence - A.Arsenault Huntley - Dejong I'd feel pretty comfortable with that lineup. Bergeron is already promised to Chicoutimi. Fill in equivalent option. |
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Post by bois on Nov 7, 2019 11:01:53 GMT -4
Thr issue i have with Groulx is admittedly a 1st world problem...but where do you play him? I dont think you move Khovanov or Cyr...or do you? I think Lavoie on the top line Element on the 3rd and MacIsaac. I don't think you add Groulx. Cyr is a 60+% face off guy and Khovanov is playing to well to move to the wing. I think Element or the equivalent player is the best bang for your buck at centre and then target an elite winger to trade for using a future. I'd much rather see them add depth pieces up front and the BPA on defense than the other way around. What would Lavallee's value be in a trade for say MacIsaac/Mercer/Lavoie/etc? He has played well this year in limited appearances and I would think his value would be quite high. (Valued at a 1st?) Trading him versus a Desnoyer would be optimal for the overall strength of the team. Pelletier - Khovanov - L'Heureux Desnoyer - Cyr - McKenna Hudson - Element - Rumsey Foreman - Stewart - King (maybe another depth forward to play bottom 6) Bergeron - Andersson Spence - A.Arsenault Huntley - Dejong I'd feel pretty comfortable with that lineup. you didn't add an elite winger there solid lineup for sure... but banking on a rookie to play first line minutes on a contender in the playoffs is risky if going all in which i think you will.... add the best dman on the market (Dobson if he returns... MacIsaac if not) and sure Element and upgrade that 20.... Huntley is not sticking around if Moncton makes a legit run.... if Aspirot returns great you save asset(s) but if not you grab another depth dman and get a better 20 up front IMO |
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Post by Doug Glatt on Nov 7, 2019 11:03:17 GMT -4
Up front, I think we could use a couple of two way forwards more than another pure offense guy ... with Pelletier, Khovanov, McKenna and Cyr, scoring goals should not be a problem ... a guy like B-O Groulx would be an ideal fit as a second line centre who could match up against top lines ... Element also. Mercer and Lavoie would be nice, but more of what we already have IMO ... same on defense - I think we need a physical, shut-down guy more than another offensive type - Andersson and Spence bring more than enough offense already. That's a very good point. The Huskies roster was already the best in the league last year, before they added the best defenseman in the league in Dobson,and offensive studs Joel Teasdale and Côté. Offence has a funny way of drying up in the playoffs, with tighter checking and less power plays. Put the odds on your side and go after the players who could be difference makers. Moncton is better suited to sustain a full rebuild, so why not load up? |
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Post by jimmy on Nov 7, 2019 11:06:45 GMT -4
Specific players aside for a moment, I predict you will see the Cats add one or two big pieces early in the trade period ... and then possibly add 2-3 more pieces to fortify our depth closer to the deadline.
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Post by Doug Glatt on Nov 7, 2019 11:10:28 GMT -4
I don't think you add Groulx. Cyr is a 60+% face off guy and Khovanov is playing to well to move to the wing. I think Element or the equivalent player is the best bang for your buck at centre and then target an elite winger to trade for using a future. I'd much rather see them add depth pieces up front and the BPA on defense than the other way around. What would Lavallee's value be in a trade for say MacIsaac/Mercer/Lavoie/etc? He has played well this year in limited appearances and I would think his value would be quite high. (Valued at a 1st?) Trading him versus a Desnoyer would be optimal for the overall strength of the team. Pelletier - Khovanov - L'Heureux Desnoyer - Cyr - McKenna Hudson - Element - Rumsey Foreman - Stewart - King (maybe another depth forward to play bottom 6) Bergeron - Andersson Spence - A.Arsenault Huntley - Dejong I'd feel pretty comfortable with that lineup. you didn't add an elite winger there solid lineup for sure... but banking on a rookie to play first line minutes on a contender in the playoffs is risky if going all in which i think you will.... add the best dman on the market (Dobson if he returns... MacIsaac if not) and sure Element and upgrade that 20.... Huntley is not sticking around if Moncton makes a legit run.... if Aspirot returns great you save asset(s) but if not you grab another depth dman and get a better 20 up front IMO Dawson Mercer would be the elite winger to get...if they can get him. I know it was a super small sample size, but I noticed Mercer and Pelletier had really good chemistry at the super series. I agree Groulx wouldn't fit, but Lavoie would. Dealing with a Maritime rival might be just as costly as acquiring a younger Mercer. L'Heureux rightfully goes to the third line and gives the Cats an incredible 3 lines of scoring depth. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 11:12:10 GMT -4
I don't think you add Groulx. Cyr is a 60+% face off guy and Khovanov is playing to well to move to the wing. I think Element or the equivalent player is the best bang for your buck at centre and then target an elite winger to trade for using a future. I'd much rather see them add depth pieces up front and the BPA on defense than the other way around. What would Lavallee's value be in a trade for say MacIsaac/Mercer/Lavoie/etc? He has played well this year in limited appearances and I would think his value would be quite high. (Valued at a 1st?) Trading him versus a Desnoyer would be optimal for the overall strength of the team. Pelletier - Khovanov - L'Heureux Desnoyer - Cyr - McKenna Hudson - Element - Rumsey Foreman - Stewart - King (maybe another depth forward to play bottom 6) Bergeron - Andersson Spence - A.Arsenault Huntley - Dejong I'd feel pretty comfortable with that lineup. you didn't add an elite winger there solid lineup for sure... but banking on a rookie to play first line minutes on a contender in the playoffs is risky if going all in which i think you will.... add the best dman on the market (Dobson if he returns... MacIsaac if not) and sure Element and upgrade that 20.... Huntley is not sticking around if Moncton makes a legit run.... if Aspirot returns great you save asset(s) but if not you grab another depth dman and get a better 20 up front IMO My thoughts exactly. I would not load up and count on Desnoyers or L'heureux as top 6 guys, would not be prudent. If you are going to spend big, get an extra 19 year old winger who can play 2nd line. maybe Desnoyers or L'heureux force your hand late, but at least you're not counting heavy on them over an 85-90 game season. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 11:19:21 GMT -4
Specific players aside for a moment, I predict you will see the Cats add one or two big pieces early in the trade period ... and then possibly add 2-3 more pieces to fortify our depth closer to the deadline. I'm a bit surprised they have not brought in one or two depth FA types since the season started. I was expecting them to do that to help fill in 3rd or 4th line or 3rd pair D. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 11:22:43 GMT -4
Thr issue i have with Groulx is admittedly a 1st world problem...but where do you play him? I dont think you move Khovanov or Cyr...or do you? I think Lavoie on the top line Element on the 3rd and MacIsaac. I don't think you add Groulx. Cyr is a 60+% face off guy and Khovanov is playing to well to move to the wing. I think Element or the equivalent player is the best bang for your buck at centre and then target an elite winger to trade for using a future. I'd much rather see them add depth pieces up front and the BPA on defense than the other way around. What would Lavallee's value be in a trade for say MacIsaac/Mercer/Lavoie/etc? He has played well this year in limited appearances and I would think his value would be quite high. (Valued at a 1st?) Trading him versus a Desnoyer would be optimal for the overall strength of the team. Pelletier - Khovanov - L'Heureux Desnoyer - Cyr - McKenna Hudson - Element - Rumsey Foreman - Stewart - King (maybe another depth forward to play bottom 6) Bergeron - Andersson Spence - A.Arsenault Huntley - Dejong I'd feel pretty comfortable with that lineup. Khovanov has played equally well at C or on the wing, I don’t think a switch to the wing impacts him. At worse you can roll all 3 as they would all end up on your 1st or 2nd PP and if you are looking for a goal or trying to shake things up one of them can play wing. |
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Post by cautious on Nov 7, 2019 11:23:23 GMT -4
Element is Titan leading leading scorer, captain, one of the top couple scrappers in the league and knows when to go. He kills penalties and plays on power play, plus has a couple years left in the league. Hope you do not expect him for a third or fourth
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 11:31:49 GMT -4
Element is Titan leading leading scorer, captain, one of the top couple scrappers in the league and knows when to go. He kills penalties and plays on power play, plus has a couple years left in the league. Hope you do not expect him for a third or fourth Did you see what I suggested? |
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