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Post by SteveUL on Nov 7, 2019 11:33:48 GMT -4
Element is Titan leading leading scorer, captain, one of the top couple scrappers in the league and knows when to go. He kills penalties and plays on power play, plus has a couple years left in the league. Hope you do not expect him for a third or fourth Nobody is shopping for a fighter as that is no longer part of the game. His 6 g and 9 a would find him on the bench on our PP. We have an abundance of PK guys as well. We do lack his physicality though. He'd be a 3rd liner on this team so his point production would drop. I think he is worth a 3rd plus a B-C prospect. If Bat isn't interested then that's okay ... we can find something similar elsewhere. He is simply a depth guy. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 13:42:16 GMT -4
Element is Titan leading leading scorer, captain, one of the top couple scrappers in the league and knows when to go. He kills penalties and plays on power play, plus has a couple years left in the league. Hope you do not expect him for a third or fourth Nobody is shopping for a fighter as that is no longer part of the game. His 6 g and 9 a would find him on the bench on our PP. We have an abundance of PK guys as well. We do lack his physicality though. He'd be a 3rd liner on this team so his point production would drop. I think he is worth a 3rd plus a B-C prospect. If Bat isn't interested then that's okay ... we can find something similar elsewhere. He is simply a depth guy. I think you’re underrating him, he is top 6 on any team in the Q right now. He plays a gritty style that usually makes an impact at playoff time and he can play on any line. I think he ends up traded for a 1st or a 2nd plus 3rd type value, hence my suggestion of Desnoyers at the draft or Hebert plus a pick. |
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Post by mav on Nov 7, 2019 13:44:42 GMT -4
Nobody is shopping for a fighter as that is no longer part of the game. His 6 g and 9 a would find him on the bench on our PP. We have an abundance of PK guys as well. We do lack his physicality though. He'd be a 3rd liner on this team so his point production would drop. I think he is worth a 3rd plus a B-C prospect. If Bat isn't interested then that's okay ... we can find something similar elsewhere. He is simply a depth guy. I think you’re underrating him, he is top 6 on any team in the Q right now. He plays a gritty style that usually makes an impact at playoff time and he can play on any line. I think he ends up traded for a 1st or a 2nd plus 3rd type value, hence my suggestion of Desnoyers at the draft or Hebert plus a pick. Ya i was thinking two 2nds for Element. |
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Nov 7, 2019 14:00:34 GMT -4
Nobody is shopping for a fighter as that is no longer part of the game. His 6 g and 9 a would find him on the bench on our PP. We have an abundance of PK guys as well. We do lack his physicality though. He'd be a 3rd liner on this team so his point production would drop. I think he is worth a 3rd plus a B-C prospect. If Bat isn't interested then that's okay ... we can find something similar elsewhere. He is simply a depth guy. I think you’re underrating him, he is top 6 on any team in the Q right now. He plays a gritty style that usually makes an impact at playoff time and he can play on any line. I think he ends up traded for a 1st or a 2nd plus 3rd type value, hence my suggestion of Desnoyers at the draft or Hebert plus a pick. Desnoyers won't be traded for Shawn Element |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 14:20:54 GMT -4
I think you’re underrating him, he is top 6 on any team in the Q right now. He plays a gritty style that usually makes an impact at playoff time and he can play on any line. I think he ends up traded for a 1st or a 2nd plus 3rd type value, hence my suggestion of Desnoyers at the draft or Hebert plus a pick. Desnoyers won't be traded for Shawn Element Probably not right away, but as futures, helps both teams. |
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Post by twister on Nov 7, 2019 14:22:13 GMT -4
Element is a perfect fit for our third line, Desnoyers won't be traded for Element for sure.
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Post by jimmy on Nov 7, 2019 14:37:04 GMT -4
Desnoyers won't be traded for Shawn Element Probably not right away, but as futures, helps both teams. I think what he is suggesting is that Desnoyers holds more value and would fetch a bigger piece than Element ... Desnoyers would be an overpay. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Nov 7, 2019 14:44:30 GMT -4
Probably not right away, but as futures, helps both teams. I think what he is suggesting is that Desnoyers holds more value and would fetch a bigger piece than Element ... Desnoyers would be an overpay. That’s how I’m reading it too. Hopefully. I wouldn’t have a problem trading Desnoyers as a future if it meant landing Gabriel Fortier. Him, Cyr and McKenna would be quite the top line. |
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Post by wild1 on Nov 7, 2019 14:50:40 GMT -4
I think what he is suggesting is that Desnoyers holds more value and would fetch a bigger piece than Element ... Desnoyers would be an overpay. That’s how I’m reading it too. Hopefully. I wouldn’t have a problem trading Desnoyers as a future if it meant landing Gabriel Fortier. Him, Cyr and McKenna would be quite the top line. Agreed, if Desnoyers goes this year or as a future it has to be for a more impactful player. Element would be a good add, but I see his value around something like Hebert + 3rd pick + either a MAAA prospect or maybe Sam Dow. |
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Post by mav on Nov 7, 2019 14:54:29 GMT -4
For arguments' sake, does anyone else have a similar skillset to Element? Coxhead?...
I was just wondering if there is a few guys available that are similar...
I few have mentioned good 2way players. Im looking for 3rd liners that can stwp up into the top 2 lines...but not a Groulx type...someone who'd cost what Element would more or less.
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Nov 7, 2019 14:55:02 GMT -4
Probably not right away, but as futures, helps both teams. I think what he is suggesting is that Desnoyers holds more value and would fetch a bigger piece than Element ... Desnoyers would be an overpay. Exactly , if Desnoyers is moved as a future it will be for someone more impactful than Element. It would take a MacIsaac or Fortier type return to see him packaged. |
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Post by mav on Nov 7, 2019 14:57:49 GMT -4
I think what he is suggesting is that Desnoyers holds more value and would fetch a bigger piece than Element ... Desnoyers would be an overpay. Exactly , if Desnoyers is moved as a future it will be for someone more impactful than Element. It would take a MacIsaac or Fortier type return to see him packaged. Agreed! Desnoyers + for a Fortier Lavallee + for a top D Pelletier at the draft for Dobson ;-) |
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Nov 7, 2019 15:11:15 GMT -4
Exactly , if Desnoyers is moved as a future it will be for someone more impactful than Element. It would take a MacIsaac or Fortier type return to see him packaged. Agreed! Desnoyers + for a Fortier Lavallee + for a top D Pelletier at the draft for Dobson ;-) 2nd 2020 (CHA)+ 3rd (BAT) + Foreman for Element Lavalle + 1st 2020 + 1st 2021+ 2nd 2020 + 2nd 2021 for MacIsaac + McLaren + Horvath Hebert + 3rd 2021 for Felix Pare Rodrigue McLaren MacIsaac Andersson Spence Dejong Huntley Horvath Stewart Pare Cyr McKenna Pelletier Khovanov Desnoyers L'Heureux Element Hudson Rumsey D'Aoust King/Stewart |
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Nov 7, 2019 15:16:51 GMT -4
Or go after Xavier Bouchard + Gabriel Fortier combo
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 7, 2019 15:17:41 GMT -4
Probably not right away, but as futures, helps both teams. I think what he is suggesting is that Desnoyers holds more value and would fetch a bigger piece than Element ... Desnoyers would be an overpay. Desnoyers as a future is worth a 1st rounder. That would be Element's top end value(+ or - a mid rounder). I like the kid, but would rather move him than Spence, Pelletier and co(at the draft). Ideally you can get a guy like Element for Hebert, but that may not get it done if there are a lot of buyers and not a lot of guys like him. |
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