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Post by pinkbeaver on Jan 2, 2020 16:40:15 GMT -4
I don't see what is so hard to understand? I'd rather have double the value in gold (futures) in 5 months time than have half that in cash (picks) right now. Not sure what goes back at the draft but an 18 year old desnoyers that will likely be a top 20 year old is probably worth close to 2 1sts. combine that with whatever picks don't get sent back and BC got a good deal. I think what Cam is doingt is really smart. Getting extra value by dealing with futures while already getting a ton of 2020 picks elsewhere. Then he can possible get fans/STH a half season of Spence Pelletier as Halifax doesn't have there own 1st. Then Pelletier (will be the top forward imo) and Spence can be flipped mid season for the same value as Groulx and McIsaac. The frustrating part I guess for Halifax fans is delaying the rebuild a bit but it may be neccessary to spread out high end picks. It may be a waste to have so many high end picks this year and create a log jam of 04 born players. Look at the positive that the picks can be spread out more across 2-3 seasons. Would you be surprised if Pelletier and/or Spence never play a game for Halifax ? As getting flipped to SJ or another team immediately at the draft ? Not at all. Back at the beginning of the trade period my "bold prediction" was a 3 way deal between the 3 teams. I think it makes a lot of sense where SJ has Halifax's 1st |
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Post by hockeylaw on Jan 2, 2020 16:42:24 GMT -4
Would you be surprised if Pelletier and/or Spence never play a game for Halifax ? As getting flipped to SJ or another team immediately at the draft ? Not at all. Back at the beginning of the trade period my "bold prediction" was a 3 way deal between the 3 teams. I think it makes a lot of sense where SJ has Halifax's 1st I think that's what we will see. Moncton would never have traded those players directly to SJ. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 2, 2020 16:45:51 GMT -4
I don't see what is so hard to understand? I'd rather have double the value in gold (futures) in 5 months time than have half that in cash (picks) right now. Not sure what goes back at the draft but an 18 year old desnoyers that will likely be a top 20 year old is probably worth close to 2 1sts. combine that with whatever picks don't get sent back and BC got a good deal. I think what Cam is doingt is really smart. Getting extra value by dealing with futures while already getting a ton of 2020 picks elsewhere. Then he can possible get fans/STH a half season of Spence Pelletier as Halifax doesn't have there own 1st. Then Pelletier (will be the top forward imo) and Spence can be flipped mid season for the same value as Groulx and McIsaac. The frustrating part I guess for Halifax fans is delaying the rebuild a bit but it may be neccessary to spread out high end picks. It may be a waste to have so many high end picks this year and create a log jam of 04 born players. Look at the positive that the picks can be spread out more across 2-3 seasons. I think Halifax already has a deal to flip Pelletier and Spence at the draft so no delay in their rebuild. That makes more sense to me than holding on to them for 3-4 months. They are better off having young assets to start next year than for 2021 or 2021-22. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 2, 2020 16:48:28 GMT -4
Not at all. Back at the beginning of the trade period my "bold prediction" was a 3 way deal between the 3 teams. I think it makes a lot of sense where SJ has Halifax's 1st I think that's what we will see. Moncton would never have traded those players directly to SJ. I hate those childish things. 1-They trade with Bathurst all the time, why not SJ? 2-Maybe you don’t trade with SJ at par and force them to pay more than an equal offer, but you never NOT trade with a team if you can help yourself. If Guay was a missing piece I would have loved to see the Cats get him. |
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Post by hockeylaw on Jan 2, 2020 17:08:04 GMT -4
I think that's what we will see. Moncton would never have traded those players directly to SJ. I hate those childish things. 1-They trade with Bathurst all the time, why not SJ? 2-Maybe you don’t trade with SJ at par and force them to pay more than an equal offer, but you never NOT trade with a team if you can help yourself. If Guay was a missing piece I would have loved to see the Cats get him. Yeah, I understand but Irving... |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 3, 2020 11:18:47 GMT -4
when is the trade deadline? Monday 1pm?
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Post by hockey1981 on Jan 3, 2020 11:20:41 GMT -4
when is the trade deadline? Monday 1pm? Yes 1pm atlantic! |
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Post by gocapebreton on Jan 3, 2020 13:50:43 GMT -4
Moncton enters this trading period with two 1sts, two 2nds, 3 3rds. Most posters on this board seem to think the only prospect being given up this year is 3rd rounder Hebert. A post above, which I responded to, seems to value Pelletier, Spence, and Desnoyers at least at 5 1sts next year. That is how I am equating the double value. I just don't see how people see the benefit of Halifax getting Pelletier and Spence at the draft. If they are returning the 1sts, the net gain is minimal. I respectfully think you are missing the point. Why hold off a year on obtaining young prospects or picks. There is just no way that a combo of Spence and Pelletier should return more next year, than McIsaac and Groulx this year. Unless there is a 3rd team involved and I think it could also very well be the case and Pelletier and Spence never play a game for Halifax and get flipped to SJ at the draft. Quite possible. That is the point I think I was missing, lol. If Saint John ( in particular) is involved at the draft, it makes a lot of sense. There is no risk to Halifax. They pick up a few extra picks from Moncton, and would reasonably multiple 1sts ( including their own 21 1st), plus. It still leaves me against many of these futures deals. It's hard to justify how a team can acquire three prime assets (without giving up much in current assets), with only two 1sts to play with. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jan 6, 2020 7:03:06 GMT -4
Here we are. Last day of the trade period. Deadline is 1pm.
How many Moncton involved trades will we see today?
My guess is 2.
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Post by mav on Jan 6, 2020 7:20:21 GMT -4
Here we are. Last day of the trade period. Deadline is 1pm. How many Moncton involved trades will we see today? My guess is 2. But is it really a guess? ;-) |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2020 7:28:06 GMT -4
I heard they are looking at another pretty big name.
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Post by joehockey on Jan 6, 2020 7:28:53 GMT -4
Here we are. Last day of the trade period. Deadline is 1pm. How many Moncton involved trades will we see today? My guess is 2. McIsaac and another defenceman? |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jan 6, 2020 7:33:03 GMT -4
Here we are. Last day of the trade period. Deadline is 1pm. How many Moncton involved trades will we see today? My guess is 2. But is it really a guess? ;-) Could be 2. Maybe 3. Possibly 4. How would I know..... |
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Post by Doublesnipers on Jan 6, 2020 7:40:57 GMT -4
But is it really a guess? ;-) Could be 2. Maybe 3. Possibly 4. How would I know..... Just out of curiosity, in your “guess” for how many more trades the Wildcats are trying to be involved in, are you counting the finalizing of MacIsaac as one of them? Or do you “think,lol” they are working on two additional trades? |
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Post by hockeylaw on Jan 6, 2020 8:00:55 GMT -4
I heard they are looking at another pretty big name. It should be an interesting day. After their win against the Cats, looks like the Eagles are trying to make a splash. Word on their board is Miller to Huskies, Hinam to Eagles. Curious to see who the Cats are now targeting. Upgrade on Huntley ? Another Forward ? |
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