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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 20, 2020 15:08:23 GMT -4
Depending on what they have left, they may have to move him for any "good" offer or better. They are already short a pile of picks and will only have a couple of big pieces to move for the rebuild. Don't want to see a 6 year rebuild... I wouldn't want to see a six year rebuild either but I also wouldn't want to see a repeat of the 16-17 season where the Cats won 1 game after Christmas if my memory serves me right. That was painful to watch. I think we can agree that we'll only know what picks we have left come draft day 2020. Perhaps we'll get some good ones back. I'd rather have one really tough half than 3 years in a row of mediocrity. If you are missing a lot of top picks in 2020, 2021 and 2022, it will be an uphill battle to build anything until 2023-2024. That's 3+ years from now... |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 20, 2020 15:30:04 GMT -4
Fair enough, he has done better this year but still has a long way to go. He is the most penalized Wildcats player when you look at the stats and I don't believe they include 10 minute misconducts. Look at Pelletier, he plays with an edge and only showing 6 minutes in penalties. Pelletier does not play with an edge ... and neither does Mika Cyr if you were thinking of inserting his name also. They are both hard working players that get results from their work ethic and smarts. Pelletier plays hard but clean. That's what NHL teams want. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Jan 20, 2020 16:46:30 GMT -4
Pelletier does not play with an edge ... and neither does Mika Cyr if you were thinking of inserting his name also. They are both hard working players that get results from their work ethic and smarts. Pelletier plays hard but clean. That's what NHL teams want. Yeah because it's not like a team has ever won the cup by crossing a few lines... NHL teams want many different types of players and they aren't always the cleanest. Intimidation is a real thing and being mentally or physically intimidating creates edges, even in today's game. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 20, 2020 16:51:58 GMT -4
Pelletier plays hard but clean. That's what NHL teams want. Yeah because it's not like a team has ever won the cup by crossing a few lines... NHL teams want many different types of players and they aren't always the cleanest. Intimidation is a real thing and being mentally or physically intimidating creates edges, even in today's game. Neither Pelletier or Khovanov will ever be intimidators, not sure why you bring that up. |
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Post by LLL on Jan 20, 2020 16:59:03 GMT -4
Pelletier does not play with an edge ... and neither does Mika Cyr if you were thinking of inserting his name also. They are both hard working players that get results from their work ethic and smarts. Pelletier plays hard but clean. That's what NHL teams want. Maybe I should have said that Pelletier plays hard as suggested by the Captain. I won’t argue as to whether he plays hard or with an edge. Pelletier is the type of player who I used to say played better the harder they hit him and when the going gets tough around the net he usually knows when to back off. Khovanov on the other hand loses it usually after the first hit or slash as minor as they may be. And when he does he loses his effectiveness. Players from opposing teams know it and it will only get worst come playoff time. When Khovanov came to Moncton that first year after Christmas he was just about always coming off the ice mad and frustrated about something. I know because I was sitting behind the Wildcats bench in section 24 at the Coliseum. My thought at first was that he was not in game shape yet and he was getting frustrated because he couldn’t do what he was able to do before his illness. Now I know better. Last year things got a little better but the players from the other teams figured him out pretty quickly and the refs got on his case. This year there were stretches where he was a completely different player but he still looses it too often for my liking. I do have to say that he has made a big improvement with the way he skates back when the Wildcats loose possession of the puck probably due to him realizing that if he wants to play pro next year he has to skate both ways. Being an accountant, I can be a little anal with stats sometime and I did a little bit of analysis with this year’s stats. So far, he has played 29 games. He has played 16 games where the Q site is showing at least one penalty and 13 games with no penalties. I know that the 10 minute misconducts are not shown. Out of the 16 games where he received at least one penalty he scored 25 points for an average of 1.56 points per game and a plus 4. Out of the 13 games where he received no penalties he scored 33 points for an average of 2.54 points per game and a plus 21 rating. Quite a difference but some will say that 1.56 points per game is still good. The conclusion that I get out of this which confirms what I was thinking is that if he keeps his emotions in check he is a better player than when he looses it and the team is better for it. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Jan 20, 2020 17:00:55 GMT -4
Yeah because it's not like a team has ever won the cup by crossing a few lines... NHL teams want many different types of players and they aren't always the cleanest. Intimidation is a real thing and being mentally or physically intimidating creates edges, even in today's game. Neither Pelletier or Khovanov will ever be intimidators, not sure why you bring that up. You noted that the NHL only wanted clean players. I'm saying that dirty players can be intimidating, and that can be effective. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 20, 2020 17:04:58 GMT -4
Neither Pelletier or Khovanov will ever be intimidators, not sure why you bring that up. You noted that the NHL only wanted clean players. I'm saying that dirty players can be intimidating, and that can be effective. NHL coaches will be accepting of penalties when it’s making guys pay the price, not doing stupid shit after the whistle or telling off referees. I wish Khovanov was smart enough to figure out that the more he reacts, the more teams will get on him. |
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Post by pong on Jan 20, 2020 21:17:43 GMT -4
Being an accountant, I can be a little anal with stats sometime and I did a little bit of analysis with this year’s stats. So far, he has played 29 games. He has played 16 games where the Q site is showing at least one penalty and 13 games with no penalties. I know that the 10 minute misconducts are not shown. Out of the 16 games where he received at least one penalty he scored 25 points for an average of 1.56 points per game and a plus 4. Out of the 13 games where he received no penalties he scored 33 points for an average of 2.54 points per game and a plus 21 rating. Quite a difference but some will say that 1.56 points per game is still good. The conclusion that I get out of this which confirms what I was thinking is that if he keeps his emotions in check he is a better player than when he looses it and the team is better for it. Interesting stat breakdown. I’d be interested to know the cumulative winning percentage of the opponents in both scenarios. (Ie)Are his higher points/lower penalty minutes against weaker opponents or stronger opponents? |
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