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Post by Doug Glatt on Feb 1, 2020 16:25:57 GMT -4
Arguably the Cats best player on a nightly basis. Hits, shoots, hustles and produces quality minutes every shift, and stuck on the 4th line.
I know, I understand the "who do you drop out of the top 9" theory to bring him up...well how about McKenna?
Before deadline, he was lethal on that 1st line with Khovanov and Pelts.
During transitional phase of deadline, formed a deadly kid line with Daoust & Desnoyes.
Post deadline he's carrying a line with Foreman & Stewart lol.
I like the Groulx line.
I would like the 4th line with Leonard taking L'Heureuxs place on it.
Just seems like somethings not clicking on that first line and I believe its McKenna.
It won't happen (taking a 20 yrs old and dropping him to the 4th), but I feel for ZL every game I watch.
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Post by catnut on Feb 1, 2020 20:20:54 GMT -4
Arguably the Cats best player on a nightly basis. Hits, shoots, hustles and produces quality minutes every shift, and stuck on the 4th line. I know, I understand the "who do you drop out of the top 9" theory to bring him up...well how about McKenna? Before deadline, he was lethal on that 1st line with Khovanov and Pelts. During transitional phase of deadline, formed a deadly kid line with Daoust & Desnoyes. Post deadline he's carrying a line with Foreman & Stewart lol. I like the Groulx line. I would like the 4th line with Leonard taking L'Heureuxs place on it. Just seems like somethings not clicking on that first line and I believe its McKenna. It won't happen (taking a 20 yrs old and dropping him to the 4th), but I feel for ZL every game I watch. Any other suggestion for somebody else that should be moved off a higher line? Maybe that will give them a boost like it did McKenna.  |
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Post by Doug Glatt on Feb 1, 2020 20:54:36 GMT -4
Arguably the Cats best player on a nightly basis. Hits, shoots, hustles and produces quality minutes every shift, and stuck on the 4th line. I know, I understand the "who do you drop out of the top 9" theory to bring him up...well how about McKenna? Before deadline, he was lethal on that 1st line with Khovanov and Pelts. During transitional phase of deadline, formed a deadly kid line with Daoust & Desnoyes. Post deadline he's carrying a line with Foreman & Stewart lol. I like the Groulx line. I would like the 4th line with Leonard taking L'Heureuxs place on it. Just seems like somethings not clicking on that first line and I believe its McKenna. It won't happen (taking a 20 yrs old and dropping him to the 4th), but I feel for ZL every game I watch. Any other suggestion for somebody else that should be moved off a higher line? Maybe that will give them a boost like it did McKenna. Haha I was thinking the same thing. He must have read this thread before stepping on the ice 🙂. Well kudos to Jeremy. Looked like 19 year old McKenna out there today. Saw L'Heureux got some PP time and juggled between 3rd and 4th at least. |
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Post by catzfans on Feb 1, 2020 21:24:41 GMT -4
Any other suggestion for somebody else that should be moved off a higher line? Maybe that will give them a boost like it did McKenna. Haha I was thinking the same thing. He must have read this thread before stepping on the ice 🙂. Well kudos to Jeremy. Looked like 19 year old McKenna out there today. Saw L'Heureux got some PP time and juggled between 3rd and 4th at least. I think L’Hereux has proven he can play up and down the lineup. If they were trying to send a message he responded well. With injuries and performance in the last half of the season he will get plenty of chances so I’m not worried. He might be on the 4th line on paper but he’ll get shuffled |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Feb 2, 2020 10:40:10 GMT -4
Any other suggestion for somebody else that should be moved off a higher line? Maybe that will give them a boost like it did McKenna. Haha I was thinking the same thing. He must have read this thread before stepping on the ice 🙂. Well kudos to Jeremy. Looked like 19 year old McKenna out there today. Saw L'Heureux got some PP time and juggled between 3rd and 4th at least. Were you really impressed because he scored or because he played better? I thought his game was pretty consistent with how he's been playing all year. He just happened to have the puck go in for him tonight. I think guys are being too results oriented when it comes to evaluating his game. Which for the record I think he has played solid and definitely don't think he deserves to be demoted for it |
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Post by Doug Glatt on Feb 2, 2020 16:30:55 GMT -4
Haha I was thinking the same thing. He must have read this thread before stepping on the ice 🙂. Well kudos to Jeremy. Looked like 19 year old McKenna out there today. Saw L'Heureux got some PP time and juggled between 3rd and 4th at least. Were you really impressed because he scored or because he played better? I thought his game was pretty consistent with how he's been playing all year. He just happened to have the puck go in for him tonight. I think guys are being too results oriented when it comes to evaluating his game. Which for the record I think he has played solid and definitely don't think he deserves to be demoted for it He played better. The other thing is, scoring is his thing. He's relied upon to put pucks in the net and when he's not playing well and not scoring that hurts the team, especially since he is a 20 yrs old. He's playing alongside our 2 best playmakers/setup men. Scoring should be a formality. Now if we were talking about Foreman not scoring that's different. Foreman brings physicality and board work to his game and scoring is a bonus for him. Maybe it was on the coaches a bit too. I noticed yesterday Lacroix swapped Pelletier for McKenna in the bumper spot on the PP. That resulted in 1 of McKenna's goals. I also thought he had excellent chemistry with Bo Groulx the first few games after the deadline, but switched him with Pelletier and Khovanov. Either way, they aren't going to drop McKenna to the 4th line so discussing him getting dropped is pointless. It was more to the point that L'Heureux had been stuck on the 4th line exclusively. |
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Post by jimmy on Feb 2, 2020 17:21:04 GMT -4
Were you really impressed because he scored or because he played better? I thought his game was pretty consistent with how he's been playing all year. He just happened to have the puck go in for him tonight. I think guys are being too results oriented when it comes to evaluating his game. Which for the record I think he has played solid and definitely don't think he deserves to be demoted for it He played better. The other thing is, scoring is his thing. He's relied upon to put pucks in the net and when he's not playing well and not scoring that hurts the team, especially since he is a 20 yrs old. He's playing alongside our 2 best playmakers/setup men. Scoring should be a formality. Now if we were talking about Foreman not scoring that's different. Foreman brings physicality and board work to his game and scoring is a bonus for him. Maybe it was on the coaches a bit too. I noticed yesterday Lacroix swapped Pelletier for McKenna in the bumper spot on the PP. That resulted in 1 of McKenna's goals. I also thought he had excellent chemistry with Bo Groulx the first few games after the deadline, but switched him with Pelletier and Khovanov. Either way, they aren't going to drop McKenna to the 4th line so discussing him getting dropped is pointless. It was more to the point that L'Heureux had been stuck on the 4th line exclusively. McKenna is a finisher, but he has been snake bit of late ... sure enough, yesterday his first one went in on a centring pass off a shin guard, and then the floodgates seemed to open as they often do ... wouldn’t be surprised to see him reel off a quick ten goals over the next 7-8 games now that the pressure is off. L’Heureux is a victim of the depth on this team ... a nice luxury to have. He could play top 6 on most teams, but he is not going to play ahead of Pelletier, Khovanov, Groulx, Fortier, McKenna, or Cyr on this team. He is better (at least offensively) than Hudson-Daoust-Desnoyers, but it is hard to argue with the chemistry those guys have as a third line. So until an opportunity arises, he will have to be content with some PP2 time to go with his 4th line minutes - we seem to roll 4 lines at even strength most of the time. |
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Post by Doug Glatt on Feb 2, 2020 18:23:36 GMT -4
He played better. The other thing is, scoring is his thing. He's relied upon to put pucks in the net and when he's not playing well and not scoring that hurts the team, especially since he is a 20 yrs old. He's playing alongside our 2 best playmakers/setup men. Scoring should be a formality. Now if we were talking about Foreman not scoring that's different. Foreman brings physicality and board work to his game and scoring is a bonus for him. Maybe it was on the coaches a bit too. I noticed yesterday Lacroix swapped Pelletier for McKenna in the bumper spot on the PP. That resulted in 1 of McKenna's goals. I also thought he had excellent chemistry with Bo Groulx the first few games after the deadline, but switched him with Pelletier and Khovanov. Either way, they aren't going to drop McKenna to the 4th line so discussing him getting dropped is pointless. It was more to the point that L'Heureux had been stuck on the 4th line exclusively. McKenna is a finisher, but he has been snake bit of late ... sure enough, yesterday his first one went in on a centring pass off a shin guard, and then the floodgates seemed to open as they often do ... wouldn’t be surprised to see him reel off a quick ten goals over the next 7-8 games now that the pressure is off. L’Heureux is a victim of the depth on this team ... a nice luxury to have. He could play top 6 on most teams, but he is not going to play ahead of Pelletier, Khovanov, Groulx, Fortier, McKenna, or Cyr on this team. He is better (at least offensively) than Hudson-Daoust-Desnoyers, but it is hard to argue with the chemistry those guys have as a third line. So until an opportunity arises, he will have to be content with some PP2 time to go with his 4th line minutes - we seem to roll 4 lines at even strength most of the time. Pretty crazy depth. It's surreal to think that L'Heureux is on the 4th line this year and next year could conceivably challenge for the scoring title lol. I'm not saying these 2 are the same player, but in 05 the Cats had Matt Marquart on the 4th line and the following year he scored like 40. So yeah unreal depth is right. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Feb 2, 2020 19:06:09 GMT -4
McKenna is a finisher, but he has been snake bit of late ... sure enough, yesterday his first one went in on a centring pass off a shin guard, and then the floodgates seemed to open as they often do ... wouldn’t be surprised to see him reel off a quick ten goals over the next 7-8 games now that the pressure is off. L’Heureux is a victim of the depth on this team ... a nice luxury to have. He could play top 6 on most teams, but he is not going to play ahead of Pelletier, Khovanov, Groulx, Fortier, McKenna, or Cyr on this team. He is better (at least offensively) than Hudson-Daoust-Desnoyers, but it is hard to argue with the chemistry those guys have as a third line. So until an opportunity arises, he will have to be content with some PP2 time to go with his 4th line minutes - we seem to roll 4 lines at even strength most of the time. Pretty crazy depth. It's surreal to think that L'Heureux is on the 4th line this year and next year could conceivably challenge for the scoring title lol. I'm not saying these 2 are the same player, but in 05 the Cats had Matt Marquart on the 4th line and the following year he scored like 40. So yeah unreal depth is right. It’s unfortunate he will likely put up those numbers in a Mooseheads jersey. |
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Post by jimmy on Feb 2, 2020 19:49:14 GMT -4
Pretty crazy depth. It's surreal to think that L'Heureux is on the 4th line this year and next year could conceivably challenge for the scoring title lol. I'm not saying these 2 are the same player, but in 05 the Cats had Matt Marquart on the 4th line and the following year he scored like 40. So yeah unreal depth is right. It’s unfortunate he will likely put up those numbers in a Mooseheads jersey. So you hearing it is him and NOT Pelletier/Spence heading to the Moose at the draft? Or him and one of them? Or (yikes) all three? |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Feb 3, 2020 8:57:18 GMT -4
It’s unfortunate he will likely put up those numbers in a Mooseheads jersey. So you hearing it is him and NOT Pelletier/Spence heading to the Moose at the draft? Or him and one of them? Or (yikes) all three? That’s correct. We will be getting at least 3 picks back from Halifax for L’Heureux. Hanging on to Pelletier & Spence is vital for the rebuild. Flip them at the next year’s Christmas trade period for a similar return (possibly more) as to what we paid for Groulx & McIsaac. |
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Post by SteveUL on Feb 3, 2020 11:56:27 GMT -4
So you hearing it is him and NOT Pelletier/Spence heading to the Moose at the draft? Or him and one of them? Or (yikes) all three? That’s correct. We will be getting at least 3 picks back from Halifax for L’Heureux. Hanging on to Pelletier & Spence is vital for the rebuild. Flip them at the next year’s Christmas trade period for a similar return (possibly more) as to what we paid for Groulx & McIsaac. So is anybody going to BC as part of the Fortier deal ? |
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Post by joehockey on Feb 3, 2020 11:58:52 GMT -4
That’s correct. We will be getting at least 3 picks back from Halifax for L’Heureux. Hanging on to Pelletier & Spence is vital for the rebuild. Flip them at the next year’s Christmas trade period for a similar return (possibly more) as to what we paid for Groulx & McIsaac. So is anybody going to BC as part of the Fortier deal ? I thought the rumour was that a few picks from the Halifax trade were being sent to BC once they got them back. |
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Feb 3, 2020 12:26:44 GMT -4
I was really looking forward to watching L'Heureux develop , one of the best 16 year olds I have seen in a long time, I better hold off buying his Jersey then !
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Post by joehockey on Feb 3, 2020 12:36:07 GMT -4
In my opinion, if it is between keeping L’Heureux or both Pelletier and Spence, then I would choose Pelletier and Spence. They are more useful for the rebuild and are pretty much known commodities. Essentially, you know that you’ll get a lot for them next year. While L’Heureux has been great, there is a lot more unknown about how he’ll develop. Maybe he becomes a superstar like we all hope, but there is just as much a chance that his development stalls.
I can understand both sides of this, but I’d rather keep Pelletier and Spence if that’s the option (Pelletier and Spence vs L’Heureux). I just hope it’s not L’Heureux and Spence.
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