sheik
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Post by sheik on Feb 16, 2020 16:01:34 GMT -4
Jealous? keep drinking the kool aid Berner you have no idea what l have done or where l have been in my life to call me jealous!! And do it hidden, shows me why you and TG are tight
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Post by j3e4 on Feb 16, 2020 18:37:28 GMT -4
Georgie is a whiney little girl when things dont go as planned.The sooner he is gone, the sooner some fans return Really seems there’s some sort of jealousy thing going on here with you and the GM. If you’re the type of fan that will return when Georgie is gone, I guess we should all enjoy the current building atmosphere while we can. It's a good thing nobody else around here ever whines and becomes irrational when something doesn't go their way.  |
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Post by berner on Feb 16, 2020 18:43:32 GMT -4
Jealous? keep drinking the kool aid Berner you have no idea what l have done or where l have been in my life to call me jealous!! And do it hidden, shows me why you and TG are tight
Sorry it’s just that’s how it seems. No interest in what you’ve done or where you’ve been, just going off your post content on this board. The bitterness seems real, so if it’s not jealousy, care to let us know what’s at the real root of it? |
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Post by ysj28 on Feb 18, 2020 17:37:25 GMT -4
Robert Williams
Telegraph Journal
The charter bus company that was supposed to take the Halifax Mooseheads to a postponed game in Saint John says it was ready to leave in the morning.
The information contradicts a statement from Mooseheads general manager Cam Russell, who told the Telegraph-Journal last week his team was ready to leave at 9 a.m. for the Feb. 7 game, but their bus was iced over and the driver didn't feel comfortable traveling in the storm.
The comments were labelled as "simply not factual," by Saint John Sea Dogs president and general manager Trevor Georgie.
He claimed the Mooseheads cancelled the bus on their own, foregoing the opinion of the bus company that it was safe to travel.
The Mooseheads ended up missing the game after leaving Halifax on a later bus around 1 p.m., a result that Georgie claims cost the Sea Dogs "tens of thousands."
New testimony from Coach Atlantic Group president Matthew Cassidy confirms the bus was ready to leave at 9 a.m., and the bus driver did not cancel the trip.
Cassidy told the Telegraph-Journal on Tuesday the bus driver was "at the designated pick-up spot with every intention of completing the trip."
He said the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League was made aware of this during a conference call between the charter company and league officials that night.
Make-up game scheduled
Russell confirmed last week that Georgie reached out to him two days before the game asking his team to leave early to ensure they made it to Saint John safely. Georgie said he then called officials with the league to voice his belief the Mooseheads were setting themselves up to miss the game.
"I could tell by our conversation that night that they were trying to set it up to not play three games in three nights," he said.
The Mooseheads were scheduled to play back-to-back home games in Halifax following Friday night's game in Saint John, and would have had to play three games in three nights.
The league has since set a make-up game between the Sea Dogs and Mooseheads.
The teams will now meet at TD Station on Feb. 26, but fans can use their tickets for any of the remaining Saint John home games.
A question of money
The original Friday night game received heavy marketing from the Sea Dogs, with TD Bank picking up the tab to bring in hip-hop artist Classified for in-game entertainment. The night was ultimately salvaged with the rapper playing an extended set, and the Sea Dogs putting on a show in a four-on-four scrimmage and shootout.
But shortly after the game's cancellation, questions started to arise about the timeline of events that led to the Mooseheads missing the game.
Georgie called for the league to grant the Sea Dogs two points for a forfeited game, and have the Mooseheads cover all expenses incurred by the team.
He said it would cost in the "tens of thousands."
QMJHL spokesperson Karl Jahnke told the Telegraph-Journal Tuesday there was no penalty for the Mooseheads as a result of the missed game, but he "will not comment on financials."
When asked if that meant the league was looking at possible financial repercussions for the Mooseheads, Jahnke said "that’s the part we will not be commenting on."
Russell refuted Georgie's claims last week, telling the Telegraph-Journal he won't pay a single dollar.
He did not return a request for comment as of the time of publication.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Feb 18, 2020 21:50:42 GMT -4
Let it go. Move on.
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Post by Reesor on Feb 18, 2020 22:05:53 GMT -4
Doesn't cost the Sea Dogs organization anything to do everything in their power to try and get compensation. Business is business. The Mooseheads won't admit the fault if there was one. The evidence has been brought up. Now it's up to the league to determine that the Mooseheads were at fault by not traveling to Saint John earlier than the usual standard for travel in the league. I don't think there's strong enough evidence to suggest the Mooseheads were malicious with the purpose of costing the Sea Dogs money, so legal action is probably out of the question. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Feb 27, 2020 11:16:04 GMT -4
QMJHL issues new travel rule after Mooseheads fiasco. The team that does not travel may lose the game and be fined $10,0000. It's a story in today's TJ.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 27, 2020 11:30:22 GMT -4
QMJHL issues new travel rule after Mooseheads fiasco. The team that does not travel may lose the game and be fined $10,0000. It's a story in today's TJ. So what part of this was considered fiasco and what was considered player safety? Or are the lines purposely blurred here to please both sides and end up with nothing as a penalty and no scenario where anyone can really be fined based on the new rule? Seems way more of the latter. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Feb 27, 2020 11:35:52 GMT -4
The Telegraph Journal's Headline called it a Fiasco not the league.
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Post by Slap Shooter on Feb 27, 2020 11:38:38 GMT -4
It says that in the event of specific weather conditions the Commissioner could require teams to take exceptional measures that would require a team to travel the day before a game.
There is more in the article.
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Post by SteveUL on Feb 27, 2020 11:56:12 GMT -4
I can see the League getting sued over that policy. While teams are not permitted to sue the league, which is a farce in itself, an insurance company is definitely going to sue the league and the two teams involved.
For example, lets pretend that this rule was in place for this game that the issue arose from. Lets say that Halifax gets on the road, and somewhere in between Halifax and Saint John, the bus driver loses control on icy roads, the bus turns sideways in the road, and a Tractor-trailer following the bus t-bones it on the side because it can't get stopped on icy roads. You can imagine yourself about the injuries and fatalities.
So the Transport Company (lets call it Midland, because that is fun) is going to sue the bus company, and the Halifax Mooseheads, and the QMJHL for forcing the players to be out on the road. Saint John will get sued because they didn't cancel the game which forced Halifax to travel, and everybody involved will sue everybody else ... except the Q because they can't sue anybody. Whether you are found liable or not for any part of the crash, you still have to hire lawyers to defend yourself.
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Post by Briwhel on Feb 27, 2020 12:04:09 GMT -4
I can see the League getting sued over that policy. While teams are not permitted to sue the league, which is a farce in itself, an insurance company is definitely going to sue the league and the two teams involved. For example, lets pretend that this rule was in place for this game that the issue arose from. Lets say that Halifax gets on the road, and somewhere in between Halifax and Saint John, the bus driver loses control on icy roads, the bus turns sideways in the road, and a Tractor-trailer following the bus t-bones it on the side because it can't get stopped on icy roads. You can imagine yourself about the injuries and fatalities. So the Transport Company (lets call it Midland, because that is fun) is going to sue the bus company, and the Halifax Mooseheads, and the QMJHL for forcing the players to be out on the road. Saint John will get sued because they didn't cancel the game which forced Halifax to travel, and everybody involved will sue everybody else ... except the Q because they can't sue anybody. Whether you are found liable or not for any part of the crash, you still have to hire lawyers to defend yourself. Only the league can cancel the game. Technically, by league rules, they could rule against Halifax for tweeting that the game was postponed and that they were staying in Moncton before the game was officially postponed. |
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Post by yoyomamajoe on Feb 27, 2020 12:07:39 GMT -4
I can see the League getting sued over that policy. While teams are not permitted to sue the league, which is a farce in itself, an insurance company is definitely going to sue the league and the two teams involved. For example, lets pretend that this rule was in place for this game that the issue arose from. Lets say that Halifax gets on the road, and somewhere in between Halifax and Saint John, the bus driver loses control on icy roads, the bus turns sideways in the road, and a Tractor-trailer following the bus t-bones it on the side because it can't get stopped on icy roads. You can imagine yourself about the injuries and fatalities. So the Transport Company (lets call it Midland, because that is fun) is going to sue the bus company, and the Halifax Mooseheads, and the QMJHL for forcing the players to be out on the road. Saint John will get sued because they didn't cancel the game which forced Halifax to travel, and everybody involved will sue everybody else ... except the Q because they can't sue anybody. Whether you are found liable or not for any part of the crash, you still have to hire lawyers to defend yourself. I am sure that player safety is the number one priority of the League too. Therefore these new rules indicate to me that player safety was never an issue in this case and it was unwillingness of the Moosehead to travel due to other reasons. The League did not have anything in place to deal with this situation and they changed that. So, in a way Georgie was right and there was foul play, but the League had no instruments to properly deal with it. They have now. |
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Post by Briwhel on Feb 27, 2020 12:10:16 GMT -4
QMJHL issues new travel rule after Mooseheads fiasco. The team that does not travel may lose the game and be fined $10,0000. It's a story in today's TJ. I do not see this article, but the $10k fine and losing plus having to pay expenses has been the rule. |
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Post by SteveUL on Feb 27, 2020 12:20:49 GMT -4
QMJHL issues new travel rule after Mooseheads fiasco. The team that does not travel may lose the game and be fined $10,0000. It's a story in today's TJ. I do not see this article, but the $10k fine and losing plus having to pay expenses has been the rule. I found it on the TJ site. Its not a rule yet I don't think ... just to be discussed by the member teams. Personally, it should fall on the team that has to drive to the other teams rink that should decide. They are the ones that are taking the risk and they see the conditions they have to drive on. Having the League rule on something from Montreal based on road conditions in NS is asinine that they'd get the final say. It should be up to the guy that has to drive the bus on whether or not they go forward. He is a professional and knows the limits of his vehicle ... nobody else does. |
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