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Post by bois on Apr 14, 2021 13:25:02 GMT -4
yeah that is a very clear show of what happened.... no clue what happened in the 2nd period.... but that clip linked here shows clearly a very dirty play by Gravel pitchforking a player between the legs like that
i'm sure several suspensions will come..... but i don't buy the Moose sticking up for the goalie argument after seeing that.... Zach Beauregard is like 5'6 gravel is well over 6 feet.... beauregard is well within his rights to be standing where he is when Gravel pitchforked him... i have no sympathy for him gettin a chop for doin that it's well deserved IMO
and yes this is most certainly a by product of having the same teams facing each other over and over and over in a very uncertain season
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Post by countryboy on Apr 14, 2021 13:25:07 GMT -4
Beauregard is an effective little hockey player. He's only 5'6" and 155 lb, but definitely is a guy who punches above his weight. He works very hard in the physical game to compensate for what he might lack in size. Looking at the stats, he might not look that special... he's a former 10th rounder who played back in MAAA after his draft year and had the following seasons: 17 y/o 9-12-21 in 66 games 18 y/o 8-16-24 in 64 games 19 y/o 3-16-19 in 36 games You'd be pretty pleased with that sort of career from any 10th round pick... but it's nothing special to write home about. But you see how effective Beauregard is in the way he plays the physical game as an agitator. One more secret thing that not everybody knows about. Beauregard is a wizard on the faceoff dot. He's running at about 59% with a lot of attempts, which is a fantastic number. I know we are set at 20 next year, at it won't likely include Beauregard... but he's a damn important part of why this team is successful. Beauregard "BUMPS" the goaltender in almost every game he plays. With the score 5-0 he knew what he was doing. Weasel! |
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Post by ysj28 on Apr 14, 2021 13:31:03 GMT -4
Dunno if I would call that spearing. His motion came up - more of a slashing - but you could argue it could have been a major given where he was aiming for.
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Post by switchback on Apr 14, 2021 15:04:01 GMT -4
Suspensions are out and I agree with them looks like Zac got nothing and rightfully so.. Peach Guay and Plandowski all with 1 game
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Post by L'il Boy on Apr 14, 2021 15:05:35 GMT -4
I watched it back on Eastlink and on the Q stream and Gravel gave Beauregard a shot between the legs pretty hard. The announcers all commented on it as well. The ref put his arm up immediately but Beauregard got up and came at Gravel and then obviously things went wild. There are a number of angles of it so I'm not sure how anyone could deny it happened. Not sure is that's considered "spearing" as I'm not sure on a lot of hockey terms still. Spearing - think of it as taking a pitchfork and jabbing it into hay, that sort of motion.
RULE 62.SPEARING 62.1 Spearing
Spearing shall mean stabbing an opponent with the point of the stick blade, whether contact is made or not. 62.2 Double-minor Penalty
A double-minor penalty will be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent and does not make contact. 62.3 Major plus Game Misconduct Penalty
A major penalty plus a game misconduct shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent (see Rule 62.4). 62.4 Match Penalty
A match penalty shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who injures an opponent as a result of a spear According to this rule, Gravel should have gotten a major and a game misconduct. However, in trying to manage the game, I think the officials made the right call. As for your earlier post that it wasn't spearing, the officials don't agree with you, nor does the video posted by bd . And I see now that the league doesn't agree with you either...  |
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Post by Naomi on Apr 14, 2021 15:33:25 GMT -4
Holy suspensions Batman!
Plandowski, Guay, Peach, Whynot, Biasca, Gravel: 1 game
L'Heureux: 4 games
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Post by saucerpass on Apr 14, 2021 15:52:45 GMT -4
Spearing - think of it as taking a pitchfork and jabbing it into hay, that sort of motion.
RULE 62.SPEARING 62.1 Spearing
Spearing shall mean stabbing an opponent with the point of the stick blade, whether contact is made or not. 62.2 Double-minor Penalty
A double-minor penalty will be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent and does not make contact. 62.3 Major plus Game Misconduct Penalty
A major penalty plus a game misconduct shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent (see Rule 62.4). 62.4 Match Penalty
A match penalty shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who injures an opponent as a result of a spear According to this rule, Gravel should have gotten a major and a game misconduct. However, in trying to manage the game, I think the officials made the right call. As for your earlier post that it wasn't spearing, the officials don't agree with you, nor does the video posted by bd . And I see now that the league doesn't agree with you either... Can you get me the rule for cross checking to the head? |
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Post by Score on Apr 14, 2021 16:01:09 GMT -4
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Post by L'il Boy on Apr 14, 2021 16:04:35 GMT -4
RULE 62.SPEARING 62.1 Spearing
Spearing shall mean stabbing an opponent with the point of the stick blade, whether contact is made or not. 62.2 Double-minor Penalty
A double-minor penalty will be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent and does not make contact. 62.3 Major plus Game Misconduct Penalty
A major penalty plus a game misconduct shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent (see Rule 62.4). 62.4 Match Penalty
A match penalty shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who injures an opponent as a result of a spear According to this rule, Gravel should have gotten a major and a game misconduct. However, in trying to manage the game, I think the officials made the right call. As for your earlier post that it wasn't spearing, the officials don't agree with you, nor does the video posted by bd . And I see now that the league doesn't agree with you either... Can you get me the rule for cross checking to the head? Nope.....but you can probably look it up yourself. Just click on the link below. QMJHL Rule Book |
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Post by islander19 on Apr 14, 2021 16:31:52 GMT -4
RULE 62.SPEARING 62.1 Spearing
Spearing shall mean stabbing an opponent with the point of the stick blade, whether contact is made or not. 62.2 Double-minor Penalty
A double-minor penalty will be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent and does not make contact. 62.3 Major plus Game Misconduct Penalty
A major penalty plus a game misconduct shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent (see Rule 62.4). 62.4 Match Penalty
A match penalty shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who injures an opponent as a result of a spear According to this rule, Gravel should have gotten a major and a game misconduct. However, in trying to manage the game, I think the officials made the right call. As for your earlier post that it wasn't spearing, the officials don't agree with you, nor does the video posted by bd . And I see now that the league doesn't agree with you either... Can you get me the rule for cross checking to the head? Not sure I would call that a cross check to the head... honestly he’s lucky that Beau hit him accidentally on his way up, because if not, he’s likely getting a legit cross check to the head. Hard to say it was “accidental”, because he was definitely going to do it...but I don’t think he meant to hit him when he did. He would’ve got him better than that - Gravel dropped down like he got shot...same as when Beau nudged him earlier in the game. |
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Post by canbeer on Apr 14, 2021 18:09:52 GMT -4
yeah that is a very clear show of what happened.... no clue what happened in the 2nd period.... but that clip linked here shows clearly a very dirty play by Gravel pitchforking a player between the legs like that i'm sure several suspensions will come..... but i don't buy the Moose sticking up for the goalie argument after seeing that.... Zach Beauregard is like 5'6 gravel is well over 6 feet.... beauregard is well within his rights to be standing where he is when Gravel pitchforked him... i have no sympathy for him gettin a chop for doin that it's well deserved IMO and yes this is most certainly a by product of having the same teams facing each other over and over and over in a very uncertain season I’m not too sure many would buy 5’6” mattering when you two hand a guy in the head. |
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Post by bd on Apr 14, 2021 18:31:12 GMT -4
Holy suspensions Batman! Plandowski, Guay, Peach, Whynot, Biasca, Gravel: 1 game L'Heureux: 4 games Really surprised beauregard did not get anything. L'Heureux's seems a bit harsh as well, but I guess because of his sheer amount of suspensions it makes sense.. |
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Post by L'il Boy on Apr 14, 2021 18:56:15 GMT -4
yeah that is a very clear show of what happened.... no clue what happened in the 2nd period.... but that clip linked here shows clearly a very dirty play by Gravel pitchforking a player between the legs like that i'm sure several suspensions will come..... but i don't buy the Moose sticking up for the goalie argument after seeing that.... Zach Beauregard is like 5'6 gravel is well over 6 feet.... beauregard is well within his rights to be standing where he is when Gravel pitchforked him... i have no sympathy for him gettin a chop for doin that it's well deserved IMO and yes this is most certainly a by product of having the same teams facing each other over and over and over in a very uncertain season I’m not too sure many would buy 5’6” mattering when you two hand a guy in the head. I find it odd that everyone calls it a 2 hand slash to the head.....everyone except the officials and the league, that is. And that most Halifax fans can't see a spear....but the officials and the league did.  |
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Post by Naomi on Apr 14, 2021 19:01:28 GMT -4
I’m not too sure many would buy 5’6” mattering when you two hand a guy in the head. I find it odd that everyone calls it a 2 hand slash to the head.....everyone except the officials and the league, that is. And that most Halifax fans can't see a spear....but the officials and the league did. They miss the part too where the high stick doesn't happen if Gravel doesn't spear Beauregard. Hell, I'd probably react the same way of someone speared me there. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 14, 2021 19:20:38 GMT -4
I find it odd that everyone calls it a 2 hand slash to the head.....everyone except the officials and the league, that is. And that most Halifax fans can't see a spear....but the officials and the league did. They miss the part too where the high stick doesn't happen if Gravel doesn't spear Beauregard. Hell, I'd probably react the same way of someone speared me there. Gravel stuck him in the nuts plain and simple, it’s deserving of a suspension especially given everything that happened, you can’t see a great angle so I don’t know if Beauregard got Gravel or not, it certainly looks like it did but the league and officials obviously don’t think so. I would have given him a game as well but the action committed against him isn’t an excuse/free pass on his role either. |
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