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Post by Reesor on Feb 7, 2022 18:48:54 GMT -4
I understand where that's coming from. His junior points per game average this year is lower than Connor McDavid's was at the same age. This isn't totally accurate. If you look at their 15 & 16 year old season then Bedard is ahead of McDavid in points per game:Bedard: 48 36 37 73 1.52 McDavid: 119 53 112 165 1.39 In their 16 year old season McDavid had more PPG but Bedard is well ahead in Goals PG. Breakdown of 16 year old season (since Nate and Crosby didn't play at 15): Name | GP | G | A | PT | PPG | Bedard | 33 | 24 | 21 | 45 | 1.36 | McDavid | 56 | 28 | 71 | 99 | 1.76 | MacKinnon | 58 | 31 | 47 | 78 | 1.34 | Crosby | 59 | 54 | 81 | 135 | 2.23 |
Crosby was off the charts, but Bedard is right there with these generational talents. Bedard's 16 year old numbers will most likely improve as well, where he will be above MacKinnon but doubt he catches McDavid's points, but will pass both Nate and McDavid's 16 year old goal numbers. It's actually a crazy statement... to say that if you include Bedard's 15yo stats, he's ahead of McDavid in points per game. But if you only count the 16 yo season, he's not. How is that even a thing? Should've sent him to the Olympics. I'm only half joking.
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Post by scotiahockey on Feb 7, 2022 19:09:57 GMT -4
This isn't totally accurate. If you look at their 15 & 16 year old season then Bedard is ahead of McDavid in points per game:Bedard: 48 36 37 73 1.52 McDavid: 119 53 112 165 1.39 In their 16 year old season McDavid had more PPG but Bedard is well ahead in Goals PG. Breakdown of 16 year old season (since Nate and Crosby didn't play at 15): Name | GP | G | A | PT | PPG | Bedard | 33 | 24 | 21 | 45 | 1.36 | McDavid | 56 | 28 | 71 | 99 | 1.76 | MacKinnon | 58 | 31 | 47 | 78 | 1.34 | Crosby | 59 | 54 | 81 | 135 | 2.23 |
Crosby was off the charts, but Bedard is right there with these generational talents. Bedard's 16 year old numbers will most likely improve as well, where he will be above MacKinnon but doubt he catches McDavid's points, but will pass both Nate and McDavid's 16 year old goal numbers. It's actually a crazy statement... to say that if you include Bedard's 15yo stats, he's ahead of McDavid in points per game. But if you only count the 16 yo season, he's not. How is that even a thing? Should've sent him to the Olympics. I'm only half joking. It’s tough to get a real read on last year for Bedard though.. the WHL wasn’t quite up to par with what it normally is, they played a short season and a different schedule. He shot onto the scene last year, was off to a really slow start this year but in the games he’s played since the WJC he’s gone to another level and turning his season around. Teams really keyed in on him to start the year and it took him a while to figure out how to play that way… in his last 10 games though, he has 14 goals and 11 assists. I’m certainly interested in watching the rest of his season because the sky is the limit. His size is a little concerning, he’s only 5’9 and I know people say he’s 16 and will keep growing but it probably won’t be that much if at all. If there was 1 worry, you wonder how that size translates to a bigger, faster, stronger more skilled league. I personally think he’ll be fine and I’m not worried about his size at all but if you wanted a criticism, I think that’d be the one thing you worry about.
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Post by yoyomamajoe on Feb 9, 2022 13:24:51 GMT -4
This isn't totally accurate. If you look at their 15 & 16 year old season then Bedard is ahead of McDavid in points per game:Bedard: 48 36 37 73 1.52 McDavid: 119 53 112 165 1.39 In their 16 year old season McDavid had more PPG but Bedard is well ahead in Goals PG. Breakdown of 16 year old season (since Nate and Crosby didn't play at 15): Name | GP | G | A | PT | PPG | Bedard | 33 | 24 | 21 | 45 | 1.36 | McDavid | 56 | 28 | 71 | 99 | 1.76 | MacKinnon | 58 | 31 | 47 | 78 | 1.34 | Crosby | 59 | 54 | 81 | 135 | 2.23 |
Crosby was off the charts, but Bedard is right there with these generational talents. Bedard's 16 year old numbers will most likely improve as well, where he will be above MacKinnon but doubt he catches McDavid's points, but will pass both Nate and McDavid's 16 year old goal numbers. It's actually a crazy statement... to say that if you include Bedard's 15yo stats, he's ahead of McDavid in points per game. But if you only count the 16 yo season, he's not. How is that even a thing? Should've sent him to the Olympics. I'm only half joking. Should have sent the junior team to the olympics period
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 9, 2022 13:48:56 GMT -4
It's actually a crazy statement... to say that if you include Bedard's 15yo stats, he's ahead of McDavid in points per game. But if you only count the 16 yo season, he's not. How is that even a thing? Should've sent him to the Olympics. I'm only half joking. Should have sent the junior team to the olympics period Agreed. Add an Eric Staal to be their grizzled vet and a maybe a veteran goalie for insurance and I think people would be making more of an effort to watch that experiment than they will the current version.
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Post by scotiahockey on Feb 9, 2022 17:35:14 GMT -4
Should have sent the junior team to the olympics period Agreed. Add an Eric Staal to be their grizzled vet and a maybe a veteran goalie for insurance and I think people would be making more of an effort to watch that experiment than they will the current version. The only problem I see is, would CHL/NCAA teams be super keen on releasing those guys and would they be able to actually compete against full grown men that play a pro game? I know with the Olympics right now, it’s hard. Real hard to get into it with the time difference and then you add in the fact that it’s the Spengler Cup essentially… I won’t get into it, even if they won a gold medal, I wouldn’t tune in or care. The junior guys may have made me tune in, just to see what these kids can do against pros. If they had any level of success, I’d definitely have tuned in.
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Post by Penguins23® on Feb 9, 2022 20:08:47 GMT -4
Agreed. Add an Eric Staal to be their grizzled vet and a maybe a veteran goalie for insurance and I think people would be making more of an effort to watch that experiment than they will the current version. The only problem I see is, would CHL/NCAA teams be super keen on releasing those guys and would they be able to actually compete against full grown men that play a pro game? I know with the Olympics right now, it’s hard. Real hard to get into it with the time difference and then you add in the fact that it’s the Spengler Cup essentially… I won’t get into it, even if they won a gold medal, I wouldn’t tune in or care. The junior guys may have made me tune in, just to see what these kids can do against pros. If they had any level of success, I’d definitely have tuned in. There are already CHL and NCAA guys on Team Canada.
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Post by scotiahockey on Feb 9, 2022 20:21:05 GMT -4
The only problem I see is, would CHL/NCAA teams be super keen on releasing those guys and would they be able to actually compete against full grown men that play a pro game? I know with the Olympics right now, it’s hard. Real hard to get into it with the time difference and then you add in the fact that it’s the Spengler Cup essentially… I won’t get into it, even if they won a gold medal, I wouldn’t tune in or care. The junior guys may have made me tune in, just to see what these kids can do against pros. If they had any level of success, I’d definitely have tuned in. There are already CHL and NCAA guys on Team Canada. Yeah but it’s different taking a few kids out of the leagues and taking a full team of them.
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Post by Reesor on Feb 1, 2023 9:27:22 GMT -4
More than 19,000 tickets sold for Regina's game in Calgary tonight. Have to imagine that is up there for the most people at a regular season CHL game.
Bedard is currently on a 10-game goal streak where he's scored 21 goals. He's also on a 34 game point streak where he's scored 86 points. All on a mediocre Pats team that has given up 14 more goals than they've scored.
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Post by Reesor on Feb 1, 2023 20:41:02 GMT -4
Officially a sellout in Calgary tonight. 19,289.
Last time Regina played in Calgary was October 2nd. 3279 people at that game.
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Post by Penguins23® on Feb 1, 2023 22:57:15 GMT -4
Another ridiculous snipe to keep his streaks alive. That was worth the price of admission for the 19K in attendance.
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Post by Reesor on Feb 2, 2023 8:23:22 GMT -4
I think the TSN hype train is actually working. Regina is selling out opposition barns... more so now than before the world juniors. They had an ISO cam on Bedard during the prospects game and they'd show him on the bench waiting to come on the ice for like 30 seconds. It was ridiculous. But say what you want about TSN. Their tactic of artificially inflating hype seems to work. It worked for the CFL. Maybe it'll work for the CHL.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 2, 2023 11:35:09 GMT -4
I think the TSN hype train is actually working. Regina is selling out opposition barns... more so now than before the world juniors. They had an ISO cam on Bedard during the prospects game and they'd show him on the bench waiting to come on the ice for like 30 seconds. It was ridiculous. But say what you want about TSN. Their tactic of artificially inflating hype seems to work. It worked for the CFL. Maybe it'll work for the CHL. I've viewed this as simply someone great coming along in the social media era. He's basically scoring at will right now. Which is highly entertaining to watch live if you have the chance. But I don't think it's because of TSN that he's hyped....it's just because of what he's doing. Am I completely blanking on the Crosby era or were our rinks not all sold our or close to it those few times Rimouski came to town? There wasn't the same nightly focus from the national outlets and I get that the WHL is in bigger markets but to me the hype on Bedard hasn't been big enough in terms of what his potential is. I honestly think Crosby was more hyped but didn't have the social media effect like Bedard does. But I can see Bedard being an entire level above Crosby in terms of greatness when he's done playing.
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Post by Reesor on Feb 2, 2023 11:55:38 GMT -4
I think the TSN hype train is actually working. Regina is selling out opposition barns... more so now than before the world juniors. They had an ISO cam on Bedard during the prospects game and they'd show him on the bench waiting to come on the ice for like 30 seconds. It was ridiculous. But say what you want about TSN. Their tactic of artificially inflating hype seems to work. It worked for the CFL. Maybe it'll work for the CHL. I've viewed this as simply someone great coming along in the social media era. He's basically scoring at will right now. Which is highly entertaining to watch live if you have the chance. But I don't think it's because of TSN that he's hyped....it's just because of what he's doing. Am I completely blanking on the Crosby era or were our rinks not all sold our or close to it those few times Rimouski came to town? There wasn't the same nightly focus from the national outlets and I get that the WHL is in bigger markets but to me the hype on Bedard hasn't been big enough in terms of what his potential is. I honestly think Crosby was more hyped but didn't have the social media effect like Bedard does. But I can see Bedard being an entire level above Crosby in terms of greatness when he's done playing. Nope, you're right. Crosby sold out or came close to selling out every rink he played in in 2005. And yah no hype train required back then. It's been a while since anyone like that came through the Q. MacKinnon was a bit of a draw but not near the level of Bedard or Crosby.
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Post by scotiahockey on Feb 2, 2023 12:05:50 GMT -4
I think the TSN hype train is actually working. Regina is selling out opposition barns... more so now than before the world juniors. They had an ISO cam on Bedard during the prospects game and they'd show him on the bench waiting to come on the ice for like 30 seconds. It was ridiculous. But say what you want about TSN. Their tactic of artificially inflating hype seems to work. It worked for the CFL. Maybe it'll work for the CHL. I've viewed this as simply someone great coming along in the social media era. He's basically scoring at will right now. Which is highly entertaining to watch live if you have the chance. But I don't think it's because of TSN that he's hyped....it's just because of what he's doing. Am I completely blanking on the Crosby era or were our rinks not all sold our or close to it those few times Rimouski came to town? There wasn't the same nightly focus from the national outlets and I get that the WHL is in bigger markets but to me the hype on Bedard hasn't been big enough in terms of what his potential is. I honestly think Crosby was more hyped but didn't have the social media effect like Bedard does. But I can see Bedard being an entire level above Crosby in terms of greatness when he's done playing. I agree with this, I don’t think TSN is hyping him up as much as there’s a bigger platform for him now then there was for McDavid even 10 years ago. Then you combine that with the historic performance at the WJC where Canada ultimately prevails and the legend grows even more. Where I draw a line though is saying I can see his greatness being an entire level above Crosby’s… he’s the elite of the elite when it comes to prospects and anyone who says otherwise is doing it to be contrarian.. the same thing happened with McDavid. I think McDavid at his peak (assuming this is his peak) is better than Crosby’s but for me, unless McDavid wins a cup, I can’t say he’s greater. Part of greatness for me, when you’re talking history/a players legacy is the ability to win at the highest level, whether it’s a Cup, Olympic gold medal, etc, etc. Crosby might very well be a top 10 player of all time, if Bedard is an entire level above him, that’s a lofty claim for a 17 YO kid. Now maybe I’m thinking too literal about this with just on ice performance/success, with social media, we could see players reaching new heights of fame and exposure, that definitely is a factor when we look back a players greatness and we could see players reach new heights. If that’s what you mean, I can see that happening. If we’re talking on ice success, I have a harder time because knowing what Crosby has done, there isn’t really many levels higher for him to go.
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Post by chootoi on Feb 2, 2023 12:40:22 GMT -4
When Crosby was in Rimouski I don't even think there were cameras in every rink yet. At least not for broadcasting. Web streaming and even smart phone technology were still in their infancy then which is why the only junior clips of him are usually either from national televised Memorial Cup games or when he scored some super highlight reel goal.
Today there are multiple cameras on Bedard pretty much at all times both on and off the ice. It's also much easier to distribute the content now.
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