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Post by countryboy on Jun 6, 2022 13:41:37 GMT -4
Exactly….probably the most truthful post in this thread. The problem isn’t about calling the black and white penalty, it’s more about not calling the others all 3rd period and then impacting a game with a minute left when you have to call the black and white penalty. Bourque hitting an Islander in the numbers near the board is also a black and white penalty but it wasn’t called. And there were some both sides.
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Post by ottawarocket9 on Jun 6, 2022 13:48:20 GMT -4
The problem isn’t about calling the black and white penalty, it’s more about not calling the others all 3rd period and then impacting a game with a minute left when you have to call the black and white penalty. Bourque hitting an Islander in the numbers near the board is also a black and white penalty but it wasn’t called. And there were some on both sides. Budgell being lassoed around the face with the top of a stick blade is pretty black and white. Another player being held onto, spun around, held again, and run into the boards is pretty black and white. A late fully charged shoulder to chest hit in the corner after the whistle is pretty black and white. A tripping call could have been called against us as a Shawinigan player was brought down coming into our zone...no call. It's playoff hockey going into the final minutes of a close game. The referees had blatantly and clearly put their whistles away. No matter what the outcome (had they scored against us or not), a bonehead linesman blew the game. Momentum shifted, frustration set in, a full intermission passed, and we couldn't regroup. There is absolutely no blame or excuse to put on our team. As a fan of all things hockey, these officials disgraced the integrity of the game and made everything QMJHL look bush league and amateur. Lets hammer them in Quebec and blow the doors off back home. Rise above the bullshit and not be denied.
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Post by robichaud on Jun 6, 2022 13:54:55 GMT -4
As Hulton said, that was not the intention of the rule for the Simoneau penalty to be based on. This was not the place or time to call it...
Ok, that being mentionned, it happenned twice in the Q finals that the underdogs won the series after trailing by two. I've seen it once in 2015 when the Oceanic came back from losing both two first games to win in seven. I mean this was so intense that by game 6, they where littarally shining the Presidents cup for a QUE win.
That's all I'm gonna say.
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Post by bois on Jun 6, 2022 14:05:04 GMT -4
somebody please bring up the clip Cory posted on twitter of Hicks smokin a cigar with his #58 cap on backwards tellin whoever he's being interviewed by that he don't care who wins a hockey game.... lol There is a lot of gems on that podcast, worth a listen. He retells the story of the imama / bent incident. what podcast is this from? lol
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Post by sc74 on Jun 6, 2022 14:31:29 GMT -4
As Hulton said, that was not the intention of the rule for the Simoneau penalty to be based on. This was not the place or time to call it... Ok, that being mentionned, it happenned twice in the Q finals that the underdogs won the series after trailing by two. I've seen it once in 2015 when the Oceanic came back from losing both two first games to win in seven. I mean this was so intense that by game 6, they where littarally shining the Presidents cup for a QUE win. That's all I'm gonna say. Rimouski did it in 2015 after getting a call their way at the end of the 6th game and in the 7th game OT after the refs stopped calling everything else before. We're still in the same logic.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 6, 2022 14:38:10 GMT -4
There is a lot of gems on that podcast, worth a listen. He retells the story of the imama / bent incident. what podcast is this from? lol Let me know what you think of him after listening to this...
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Post by j3e4 on Jun 6, 2022 15:30:50 GMT -4
The problem isn’t about calling the black and white penalty, it’s more about not calling the others all 3rd period and then impacting a game with a minute left when you have to call the black and white penalty. Bourque hitting an Islander in the numbers near the board is also a black and white penalty but it wasn’t called. And there were some both sides. 100%. Refs can decide the game by not calling penalties just as easily as they can decide it by calling penalties. I get maybe being a bit more lenient on some of the more subjective ones that could go either way, depending on what's at stake. But blatant penalties should still be called and when you just let everything go, you're setting yourself up for something like this to happen. I remember a similar situation years ago where the refs were letting everything go through most of regulation and overtime. Because one team was more skilled and had the puck more, the non-calls were pretty one-sided. Then the puck gets shot over the glass by a player on the team that controlled most of the play (and the team who lost out on many power play opportunities due to the non-calls). So it's an automatic penalty and the other team scores. Every team is on both ends of this at one point or another. And sometimes teams kill it off and win despite this type of thing and sometimes they don't. There's never one single reason why a team loses a close game. There can be lots of factors but this type of thing is certainly part of it.
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Post by sc74 on Jun 6, 2022 15:37:32 GMT -4
Dubé took Budgell down on the ice in the 3rd. Budgell did absolutely nothing wrong but they still called both players.
That is also impacting a game while trying not to by calling both players.
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Post by switchback on Jun 6, 2022 17:50:38 GMT -4
This series is coming back split.. positive vibes only from me.. this team is too good not to battle back
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Post by robichaud on Jun 6, 2022 18:55:28 GMT -4
As Hulton said, that was not the intention of the rule for the Simoneau penalty to be based on. This was not the place or time to call it... Ok, that being mentionned, it happenned twice in the Q finals that the underdogs won the series after trailing by two. I've seen it once in 2015 when the Oceanic came back from losing both two first games to win in seven. I mean this was so intense that by game 6, they where littarally shining the Presidents cup for a QUE win. That's all I'm gonna say. Rimouski did it in 2015 after getting a call their way at the end of the 6th game and in the 7th game OT after the refs stopped calling everything else before. We're still in the same logic. I knew someone would bring it up I shall add that Gouin was the ref responsable for the call! If you don't Remember, Remparts fan certainly do! We are in the same logic, but not at the same moment neither the same circomstances
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Post by bd on Jun 6, 2022 19:42:24 GMT -4
On a different topic - Plandowski left the game in either the second or the third. Saw him watching the 3rd and didn't see any obvious injury. People behind me said they thought he got hit in the head earlier in the game but I missed that.
Hopefully he's going to be good to go on Wednesday
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Post by switchback on Jun 6, 2022 19:42:45 GMT -4
I wonder what’s the chances we see Pat Leblanc back for game 3 he would be a huge add for the team … I know he would be out of shape but he would add a lot more than Todd has given us and that’s not bashing young Todd it’s just Leblanc kills penalties and was turning into a really reliable bottom 6 before his jnjury.
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Post by bd on Jun 6, 2022 20:15:24 GMT -4
I wonder what’s the chances we see Pat Leblanc back for game 3 he would be a huge add for the team … I know he would be out of shape but he would add a lot more than Todd has given us and that’s not bashing young Todd it’s just Leblanc kills penalties and was turning into a really reliable bottom 6 before his jnjury. His injury sounded pretty horrific, I don't know how long it would take to heal. That being said, would be nice to see him out there.
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Post by switchback on Jun 6, 2022 20:21:18 GMT -4
I heard his gear is with him they must be a bit optimistic
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Post by Naomi on Jun 6, 2022 20:25:28 GMT -4
I wonder what’s the chances we see Pat Leblanc back for game 3 he would be a huge add for the team … I know he would be out of shape but he would add a lot more than Todd has given us and that’s not bashing young Todd it’s just Leblanc kills penalties and was turning into a really reliable bottom 6 before his jnjury. His injury sounded pretty horrific, I don't know how long it would take to heal. That being said, would be nice to see him out there. What did happen to him?
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