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Post by coleminer on Jun 20, 2022 19:21:46 GMT -4
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Post by Citris on Jun 20, 2022 19:37:00 GMT -4
Seems weird to see the Sea Dogs in anything but blue, especially since most the Memorial cup jerseys in recent memory have been blue. Terrible look that they couldn't spring for shells for the pants tho.
Rest vs. Rust tonight... so far the Sea Dogs are looking more rested than rusted!
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Post by hal on Jun 20, 2022 20:02:09 GMT -4
They look one step ahead of Hamilton at all times .
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Jun 20, 2022 20:07:43 GMT -4
I hope the event is a huge success but I also hope the Sea Dogs don’t win it all. If you win the Memorial Cup but didn’t win your league, it’s a cheapened “title”. The playoffs are what matters. You earn 16 wins (not this season) to call yourself the Champs and play for a Memorial Cup in a tournament format where the best team doesn’t always win. As a rule I don't consider it cheapened most of the time. Sometimes these leagues have 3 or 4 really good teams on their playoffs (Like WHL had this year). While this wasn't the case this year for SJ since they lost to Rimouski, but what if they had lost to Quebec?? Would it be a cheapened title if they went on to win as the host? 2006 the Quebec Remparts won the cup as the Q representative even though they lost the league title to host Moncton. They didn't earn their way in completely (fewer than 16 wins). 2000 Halifax lost in 2nd Round to a stacked Rimouski team that had Brad Richards, Thatcher Bell etc that went on to dominate the Memorial Cup. It was one of the strongest Q champions ever. Unfortunate to have to play them early in the playoffs, but sometimes the host meet the best team on the way like that. The 2013 Halifax Mooseheads lost one game at the 2013 Memorial Cup. One of 9 losses all season. To the host Saskatoon who also were 2nd round losers in WHL Playoffs. They are full marks for stopping the Moose since none of the teams that earned their way could dent them. *and in 2022 the Q Champs didn't need 16 wins. Shawinigan only needed 13 wins. It was surely an easier road this year in the Q. Is it ideal? No. |
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Post by howitzer on Jun 20, 2022 20:36:24 GMT -4
Seems weird to see the Sea Dogs in anything but blue, especially since most the Memorial cup jerseys in recent memory have been blue. Terrible look that they couldn't spring for shells for the pants tho. Rest vs. Rust tonight... so far the Sea Dogs are looking more rested than rusted! The blue pants with that jersey look horrible. Looks cheap. |
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Post by coleminer on Jun 20, 2022 20:38:20 GMT -4
Who cares if who wins is cheapened or not. Accept the tournament for what it is. The tournament is fun and highly skilled.
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Post by puckguru on Jun 20, 2022 22:37:24 GMT -4
Totally different looking team gyro the one that lost a few weeks ago. Players seemed to be better utilized tonight in all situations.
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Post by j3e4 on Jun 20, 2022 22:41:13 GMT -4
I guess not everyone is familiar with the colours on the N.B. flag.  |
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Post by Naomi on Jun 20, 2022 23:12:07 GMT -4
I guess not everyone is familiar with the colours on the N.B. flag. 🙂 No one has any issue with the jersey, just the mismatched pants. The jersey looked really nice this year. |
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Post by j3e4 on Jun 21, 2022 0:11:26 GMT -4
I guess not everyone is familiar with the colours on the N.B. flag. 🙂 No one has any issue with the jersey, just the mismatched pants. The jersey looked really nice this year. Thank you for proving my point. I made no mention of the jersey. But to be more clear, my comment was in reference to the entire uniform, pants included. |
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Post by Citris on Jun 21, 2022 1:22:38 GMT -4
Thank you for proving my point. I made no mention of the jersey. But to be more clear, my comment was in reference to the entire uniform, pants included. I get there's blue in the flag, but where's the silver come from XD? It was obviously just an oversight. I actually really liked the jersey in general, I just wish they had black pant shells to complete the look. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 21, 2022 6:31:36 GMT -4
I hope the event is a huge success but I also hope the Sea Dogs don’t win it all. If you win the Memorial Cup but didn’t win your league, it’s a cheapened “title”. The playoffs are what matters. You earn 16 wins (not this season) to call yourself the Champs and play for a Memorial Cup in a tournament format where the best team doesn’t always win. As a rule I don't consider it cheapened most of the time. Sometimes these leagues have 3 or 4 really good teams on their playoffs (Like WHL had this year). While this wasn't the case this year for SJ since they lost to Rimouski, but what if they had lost to Quebec?? Would it be a cheapened title if they went on to win as the host? 2006 the Quebec Remparts won the cup as the Q representative even though they lost the league title to host Moncton. They didn't earn their way in completely (fewer than 16 wins). 2000 Halifax lost in 2nd Round to a stacked Rimouski team that had Brad Richards, Thatcher Bell etc that went on to dominate the Memorial Cup. It was one of the strongest Q champions ever. Unfortunate to have to play them early in the playoffs, but sometimes the host meet the best team on the way like that. The 2013 Halifax Mooseheads lost one game at the 2013 Memorial Cup. One of 9 losses all season. To the host Saskatoon who also were 2nd round losers in WHL Playoffs. They are full marks for stopping the Moose since none of the teams that earned their way could dent them. *and in 2022 the Q Champs didn't need 16 wins. Shawinigan only needed 13 wins. It was surely an easier road this year in the Q. Is it ideal? No. If you don’t win your way there and become the double champ when you win the Memorial Cup, then it’s absolutely cheapened. It doesn’t take away the fact that the host teams are still good, can win games and win the Memorial Cup but it doesn’t hold anywhere near as much value or prestige if you have to go in the back door to do it. You can call it unfortunate to lose in round 1 but that just means you aren’t good enough to win the league. You have to have a host team but there’s more respect when you get in because you actually earned it, not just because you won a bid and bowed out early. I think any of the teams that go to the finals or even some that lose in the playoffs before the finals can win the Memorial Cup, it’s a 3 game round robin where the best teams don’t always win and honestly, in a 1 game playoff anything can happen. It really doesn’t prove anything. It doesn’t mean the best teams winning but when you win the Memorial Cup and not your league, you can’t even say you’re the best team in your own league when we know a 7 game series holds more weight then a 1 game playoff, so how could you turn around and then call yourself the “best” team in the CHL? |
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Jun 21, 2022 6:51:41 GMT -4
As a rule I don't consider it cheapened most of the time. Sometimes these leagues have 3 or 4 really good teams on their playoffs (Like WHL had this year). While this wasn't the case this year for SJ since they lost to Rimouski, but what if they had lost to Quebec?? Would it be a cheapened title if they went on to win as the host? 2006 the Quebec Remparts won the cup as the Q representative even though they lost the league title to host Moncton. They didn't earn their way in completely (fewer than 16 wins). 2000 Halifax lost in 2nd Round to a stacked Rimouski team that had Brad Richards, Thatcher Bell etc that went on to dominate the Memorial Cup. It was one of the strongest Q champions ever. Unfortunate to have to play them early in the playoffs, but sometimes the host meet the best team on the way like that. The 2013 Halifax Mooseheads lost one game at the 2013 Memorial Cup. One of 9 losses all season. To the host Saskatoon who also were 2nd round losers in WHL Playoffs. They are full marks for stopping the Moose since none of the teams that earned their way could dent them. *and in 2022 the Q Champs didn't need 16 wins. Shawinigan only needed 13 wins. It was surely an easier road this year in the Q. Is it ideal? No. If you don’t win your way there and become the double champ when you win the Memorial Cup, then it’s absolutely cheapened. It doesn’t take away the fact that the host teams are still good, can win games and win the Memorial Cup but it doesn’t hold anywhere near as much value or prestige if you have to go in the back door to do it. You can call it unfortunate to lose in round 1 but that just means you aren’t good enough to win the league. You have to have a host team but there’s more respect when you get in because you actually earned it, not just because you won a bid and bowed out early. I think any of the teams that go to the finals or even some that lose in the playoffs before the finals can win the Memorial Cup, it’s a 3 game round robin where the best teams don’t always win and honestly, in a 1 game playoff anything can happen. It really doesn’t prove anything. It doesn’t mean the best teams winning but when you win the Memorial Cup and not your league, you can’t even say you’re the best team in your own league when we know a 7 game series holds more weight then a 1 game playoff, so how could you turn around and then call yourself the “best” team in the CHL? It's not ideal. FOR the purists... You just outlined the same problem that March Madness presents with 68 teams. Some years you win a national title and not your league title. Any sport with wildcards has that. Tournament format generally have that problem. It happens in golf (invites) and curling (wildcards) too. Memorial cup is a national championship. It isn't a league playoff. And it also skews the host priviledge to a few cities that qualify economically and its only a small handful of places. So a city qualifies to host not really the team. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 21, 2022 6:53:13 GMT -4
Totally different looking team gyro the one that lost a few weeks ago. Players seemed to be better utilized tonight in all situations. Their forecheck looked very good as well as their transition game. Defensively they defended the rush quite well, need to clean up coverage in the slot. |
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Post by coleminer on Jun 21, 2022 7:03:08 GMT -4
If you don’t win your way there and become the double champ when you win the Memorial Cup, then it’s absolutely cheapened. It doesn’t take away the fact that the host teams are still good, can win games and win the Memorial Cup but it doesn’t hold anywhere near as much value or prestige if you have to go in the back door to do it. You can call it unfortunate to lose in round 1 but that just I think people are thinking to hard on this. Let the players sort it out on what is cheap and what isn’t. As a fan, we all know what this tournament is and isn’t at this point, enjoy the hockey. We see the players, celebrate after winning, let them have it. I have no skin in the game, if the Sea Dogs win, keep it simple, instead of worrying about what is cheap. |
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