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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 10, 2022 11:59:00 GMT -4
To me it's a big joke. It's like saying "We are selling tickets for a concert and this is the price. So what group or entertainer will be performing? Oh... we'll decide that later... but buy your ticket now!" Not exactly. Its like buying a pass to a festival with an A stage and a B stage with different entrances and separate tickets. Halifax is the A stage. Moncton is the B stage. Meaning Halifax gets Canada and their pool and Moncton gets the other pool. You won't know who is playing in Moncton until the current tourney ends but you do know it will be 2-3 of US, Sweden, Finland, Czechia, Slovakia and 2-3 of Germany, Latvia, Switzerland, Austria or whoever is promoted/relegated from that bottom tier. The tourney format is basically the same every year. Its not like you're being sold on an Aerosmith concert and getting a local cover band. You're just not getting the Canada group which in reality is the only real draw 95% of fans will want to see. But you're also not paying what Halifax will be for their package. To me if you're not in Halifax you'd have to really love junior hockey to spend money and commit a week over Xmas to watch Slovakia play Germany. But thats just the reality of the "co-host" of something like this. |
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Post by MikeC on Aug 10, 2022 12:04:39 GMT -4
To me it's a big joke. It's like saying "We are selling tickets for a concert and this is the price. So what group or entertainer will be performing? Oh... we'll decide that later... but buy your ticket now!" Not exactly. Its like buying a pass to a festival with an A stage and a B stage with different entrances and separate tickets. Halifax is the A stage. Moncton is the B stage. Meaning Halifax gets Canada and their pool and Moncton gets the other pool. You won't know who is playing in Moncton until the current tourney ends but you do know it will be 2-3 of US, Sweden, Finland, Czechia, Slovakia and 2-3 of Germany, Latvia, Switzerland, Austria or whoever is promoted/relegated from that bottom tier. The tourney format is basically the same every year. Its not like you're being sold on an Aerosmith concert and getting a local cover band. You're just not getting the Canada group which in reality is the only real draw 95% of fans will want to see. But you're also not paying what Halifax will be for their package. To me if you're not in Halifax you'd have to really love junior hockey to spend money and commit a week over Xmas to watch Slovakia play Germany. But thats just the reality of the "co-host" of something like this. It is underhanded of them to have not come out and officially said where Canada will be playing their Preliminary games. That said, is there a chance Canada might play prelim games in both locations, and they just haven't announced it because they are waiting to see who Canada will be playing, so the games can be divided up accordingly? |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 10, 2022 12:14:55 GMT -4
Not exactly. Its like buying a pass to a festival with an A stage and a B stage with different entrances and separate tickets. Halifax is the A stage. Moncton is the B stage. Meaning Halifax gets Canada and their pool and Moncton gets the other pool. You won't know who is playing in Moncton until the current tourney ends but you do know it will be 2-3 of US, Sweden, Finland, Czechia, Slovakia and 2-3 of Germany, Latvia, Switzerland, Austria or whoever is promoted/relegated from that bottom tier. The tourney format is basically the same every year. Its not like you're being sold on an Aerosmith concert and getting a local cover band. You're just not getting the Canada group which in reality is the only real draw 95% of fans will want to see. But you're also not paying what Halifax will be for their package. To me if you're not in Halifax you'd have to really love junior hockey to spend money and commit a week over Xmas to watch Slovakia play Germany. But thats just the reality of the "co-host" of something like this. It is underhanded of them to have not come out and officially said where Canada will be playing their Preliminary games. That said, is there a chance Canada might play prelim games in both locations, and they just haven't announced it because they are waiting to see who Canada will be playing, so the games can be divided up accordingly? I guess i've always viewed it as the larger arena is always going to host the Canadian round robin and playoff rounds. I think both cities get shafted if the games are divided. Halifax package is devalued without getting the full Canada package and Moncton gets 2 Canada games in packages forcing them to buy an overpriced package of all the other games. I wouldn't be a fan of that in either market I feel like. But to me that B pool should never be sold as an A pool and should be much cheaper with it fully known it doesnt include Canada. Definitely a lot of shady tactics at work here...but its Hockey Canada and people are still frothing at the mouth to hand over hundreds or thousands of dollars even as we now see where some of the money ends up going. |
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Post by Slammer on Aug 11, 2022 10:10:38 GMT -4
Anyone who thought Canada would be playing in Moncton is a fool.
You can tell they aren't playing there based off the two pre-tournament games in the ticket package.
The top division almost always plays in the city with the biggest population, so it was going to be in Halifax either way.
The cities are in fact co-hosts, they're co-hosting the tournament not Team Canada.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 11, 2022 10:48:06 GMT -4
Anyone who thought Canada would be playing in Moncton is a fool. You can tell they aren't playing there based off the two pre-tournament games in the ticket package. The top division almost always plays in the city with the biggest population, so it was going to be in Halifax either way. The cities are in fact co-hosts, they're co-hosting the tournament not Team Canada. Agreed. Moncton is playing the role Sydney did in 2003. Pre-tourney games to wet the appetite and drive some ticket package sales but reality is its not a great product for most fans who view the WJHC as whatever Canada is doing. Its tough to make the money and time commitment knowing you're getting 2 big countries like US vs Sweden as the absolute best game you're going to get. In Sydney 1 round robin game drove huge interest and that was US vs Russia. I think no Russia really devalues this tournament for Moncton. Most are better off buying single game tickets to the 2-3 games with the bigger nations involved. Nobody wants to watch Latvia play Austria for example. |
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Post by yorb on Aug 11, 2022 11:26:19 GMT -4
Anyone who thought Canada would be playing in Moncton is a fool. You can tell they aren't playing there based off the two pre-tournament games in the ticket package. The top division almost always plays in the city with the biggest population, so it was going to be in Halifax either way. The cities are in fact co-hosts, they're co-hosting the tournament not Team Canada. This isn't Sydney. The arenas in Moncton and Halifax are basically the same size if you don't count the seats 40 rows back with a giant wall in your face, and Moncton's regional population (within a couple hours or less) is actually larger than Halifax. For a massive event like this, it's foolish not to take into account Fredericton, SJ, PEI and so on. What I'm saying is, this is much closer to a true co-host setup like Montreal-Toronto than an A and B setup like Halifax-Sydney, Edmonton-Red Deer or Vancouver-Victoria. I just find it kind of hilarious that they're charging $680 for packages with no Canada tournament games, whereas for just a few hundred more, you can just buy a Halifax package and go see all 7 games that matter to 99% of world junior fans. On the bright side, at least the turnouts at Avenir won't look any worse than the non-Canada games in Edmonton yesterday. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 11, 2022 11:56:36 GMT -4
Anyone who thought Canada would be playing in Moncton is a fool. You can tell they aren't playing there based off the two pre-tournament games in the ticket package. The top division almost always plays in the city with the biggest population, so it was going to be in Halifax either way. The cities are in fact co-hosts, they're co-hosting the tournament not Team Canada. This isn't Sydney. The arenas in Moncton and Halifax are basically the same size if you don't count the seats 40 rows back with a giant wall in your face, and Moncton's regional population (within a couple hours or less) is actually larger than Halifax. For a massive event like this, it's foolish not to take into account Fredericton, SJ, PEI and so on. What I'm saying is, this is much closer to a true co-host setup like Montreal-Toronto than an A and B setup like Halifax-Sydney, Edmonton-Red Deer or Vancouver-Victoria. I just find it kind of hilarious that they're charging $680 for packages with no Canada tournament games, whereas for just a few hundred more, you can just buy a Halifax package and go see all 7 games that matter to 99% of world junior fans. On the bright side, at least the turnouts at Avenir won't look any worse than the non-Canada games in Edmonton yesterday. I agree on that, Halifax has more population but Moncton has the better, newer rink. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 11, 2022 12:12:30 GMT -4
Anyone who thought Canada would be playing in Moncton is a fool. You can tell they aren't playing there based off the two pre-tournament games in the ticket package. The top division almost always plays in the city with the biggest population, so it was going to be in Halifax either way. The cities are in fact co-hosts, they're co-hosting the tournament not Team Canada. This isn't Sydney. The arenas in Moncton and Halifax are basically the same size if you don't count the seats 40 rows back with a giant wall in your face, and Moncton's regional population (within a couple hours or less) is actually larger than Halifax. For a massive event like this, it's foolish not to take into account Fredericton, SJ, PEI and so on. What I'm saying is, this is much closer to a true co-host setup like Montreal-Toronto than an A and B setup like Halifax-Sydney, Edmonton-Red Deer or Vancouver-Victoria. I just find it kind of hilarious that they're charging $680 for packages with no Canada tournament games, whereas for just a few hundred more, you can just buy a Halifax package and go see all 7 games that matter to 99% of world junior fans. On the bright side, at least the turnouts at Avenir won't look any worse than the non-Canada games in Edmonton yesterday. I'd say Hockey Canada has a say and would prefer to play all round robin in 1 market. In this case its probably just the bigger arena capacity winning out. Why they're scared to just come out and say that makes no sense to me. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Aug 17, 2022 19:57:20 GMT -4
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Post by Naomi on Aug 18, 2022 18:39:26 GMT -4
If anyone has tickets for any of the Finland games, I'd be very interested in buying a couple (at least two, maybe four)
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 6, 2022 17:22:21 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 15, 2022 8:41:05 GMT -4
If anybody is buying the WJHC and looking to sell a few tickets, inbox me, there are a couple of games I would be interested in
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Post by jordo999 on Sept 15, 2022 10:05:33 GMT -4
anyone got the link to buy tickets?
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Post by scotiahockey on Sept 15, 2022 13:26:37 GMT -4
anyone got the link to buy tickets? You had to enter the draw and get selected to buy tickets at this point |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 15, 2022 13:39:44 GMT -4
anyone got the link to buy tickets? You had to enter the draw and get selected to buy tickets at this point I assume those are full packages and not individual game? |
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