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Post by Citris on Oct 3, 2022 9:22:06 GMT -4
The other possibility is that he did request a trade to Halifax, but they couldn't make it work because Halifax didn't feel they had room.
With trading Bobby Orr Halifax has already shown they're prioritizing getting younger guys ice time, they're targeting next season harder than this one. Does Boyd make Halifax better in the short term? Yea, sure, but then you're taking ice away from another kid you're trying to develop.
And even if he requested a trade, I can't see a good-faith deal being made for less than a 2nd round pick. That's a steep price for a guy who makes your team marginally better in the short term when you're not going for it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2022 9:42:23 GMT -4
Pretty sure Houlton is holding on to Boyd to make a point. I would say the kid is tired of being penciled into a role that he does not necessarily like or agree with. Now he wants out and he can't get the trade. Something will have to give by the x-mas trade period/roster deadline, as a 19, will he not have to play or become a free agent??? They can't just bury him on the protected list.
I wouldn't knock the CIS from a development point or scouting perspective, if Boyd can find some offense in his game in that league vs men, it could be the confidence he needs to push to the next level.
For the record, the days of playing a different style because the other team has a heavy player like Boyd on the ice are over, no one is running away from that style of play. If Halifax can get him, and put him in a role to score 15-20 goals go for it, signing him to protect Dumais is a complete waste of time. As a player, I would be move nervous about the risk of getting crossed check in the teeth by Zach L, then dropping the gloves with Boyd.
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Post by MooseMan on Oct 3, 2022 9:47:30 GMT -4
The other possibility is that he did request a trade to Halifax, but they couldn't make it work because Halifax didn't feel they had room. With trading Bobby Orr Halifax has already shown they're prioritizing getting younger guys ice time, they're targeting next season harder than this one. Does Boyd make Halifax better in the short term? Yea, sure, but then you're taking ice away from another kid you're trying to develop. And even if he requested a trade, I can't see a good-faith deal being made for less than a 2nd round pick. That's a steep price for a guy who makes your team marginally better in the short term when you're not going for it. It really matters how you look at it. Getting something for Boyd is better than getting nothing. At this momment he has played his cards and is playing at SMU so hes not helping you in any way. I can understand why you dont want to trade him unless your getting something in return but he has no value at this point. And I think he adds value to the moose. You can see that first line doesnt have much to offer except getting experience. Might see something happen at Christmas but it will require the islanders dropping the price and the Moose wanting to take a spot away from a rookie. I hate that kids get messed up in rebuilds. Boyd knows hes going somewhere but tried to dictate where he went but it didnt work. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 3, 2022 10:02:30 GMT -4
The other possibility is that he did request a trade to Halifax, but they couldn't make it work because Halifax didn't feel they had room. With trading Bobby Orr Halifax has already shown they're prioritizing getting younger guys ice time, they're targeting next season harder than this one. Does Boyd make Halifax better in the short term? Yea, sure, but then you're taking ice away from another kid you're trying to develop. And even if he requested a trade, I can't see a good-faith deal being made for less than a 2nd round pick. That's a steep price for a guy who makes your team marginally better in the short term when you're not going for it. It really matters how you look at it. Getting something for Boyd is better than getting nothing. At this momment he has played his cards and is playing at SMU so hes not helping you in any way. I can understand why you dont want to trade him unless your getting something in return but he has no value at this point. And I think he adds value to the moose. You can see that first line doesnt have much to offer except getting experience. Might see something happen at Christmas but it will require the islanders dropping the price and the Moose wanting to take a spot away from a rookie. I hate that kids get messed up in rebuilds. Boyd knows hes going somewhere but tried to dictate where he went but it didnt work. Its never as easy as getting something is better than nothing. In some cases the nothing is better because of the precedent you set for others. Once you become a doormat you risk losing more than 1 player. Cape Breton lost almost an entire draft class a decade ago because they didn't have a back bone in the organization to try and draw a line in the sand. You can't just accept less because it means getting more than nothing. |
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Post by Score on Oct 3, 2022 10:14:28 GMT -4
I understand that hockey is hockey, wherever you play........but it has to be a bit frustrating for the team and staff to not even have a practice yet on their home ice....
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Post by MooseMan on Oct 3, 2022 10:59:02 GMT -4
It really matters how you look at it. Getting something for Boyd is better than getting nothing. At this momment he has played his cards and is playing at SMU so hes not helping you in any way. I can understand why you dont want to trade him unless your getting something in return but he has no value at this point. And I think he adds value to the moose. You can see that first line doesnt have much to offer except getting experience. Might see something happen at Christmas but it will require the islanders dropping the price and the Moose wanting to take a spot away from a rookie. I hate that kids get messed up in rebuilds. Boyd knows hes going somewhere but tried to dictate where he went but it didnt work. Its never as easy as getting something is better than nothing. In some cases the nothing is better because of the precedent you set for others. Once you become a doormat you risk losing more than 1 player. Cape Breton lost almost an entire draft class a decade ago because they didn't have a back bone in the organization to try and draw a line in the sand. You can't just accept less because it means getting more than nothing. Fair Point. |
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Post by bois on Oct 3, 2022 11:01:39 GMT -4
halifax and charlottetown have a very solid recent trade history with each other
i find it very hard to believe if Halifax had interest a fair trade could not be completed
perhaps they simply don't have said interest
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Post by L'il Boy on Oct 3, 2022 16:47:39 GMT -4
Who honestly thinks he's going to be playing top minutes in the AUS? I think he'll see less time playing with the Huskies then he would playing major junior.
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Post by islander19 on Oct 3, 2022 16:53:56 GMT -4
Who honestly thinks he's going to be playing top minutes in the AUS? I think he'll see less time playing with the Huskies then he would playing major junior. Yeah I definitely agree. Plus the tough stuff is less, skill is more…he’s certainly not going to stand out by any means, likely stuck on the 4th line |
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Post by MooseMan on Oct 3, 2022 18:31:56 GMT -4
Who honestly thinks he's going to be playing top minutes in the AUS? I think he'll see less time playing with the Huskies then he would playing major junior. Yeah I definitely agree. Plus the tough stuff is less, skill is more…he’s certainly not going to stand out by any means, likely stuck on the 4th line I don’t think it’s about playing time it’s about him taking a stance and standing behind it. Same as Hulton. What we have here is a stand off. What it will take to fix it is a trade agreement at Christmas. And in order for that to happen is a tough start for the moose or real good. Odds are it won’t work out for either side. |
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Post by Citris on Oct 3, 2022 18:51:22 GMT -4
If it were about playing time he'd be playing for Charlottetown.
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Post by canbeer on Oct 3, 2022 21:07:00 GMT -4
halifax and charlottetown have a very solid recent trade history with each other i find it very hard to believe if Halifax had interest a fair trade could not be completed perhaps they simply don't have said interest I’d be surprised but maybe like you said they don’t have interest. They traded Orr to make space for younger guys and add some picks, may just not fit their plans. That said, it just seems like he’s a piece that’s a good fit, a great fit, for what Halifax doesn’t have. The off season hasn’t been that kind to Charlottetown, it could very much be a matter of Hulton saying we need a 1st, or need Martin and a pick or whatever that may be and Russell saying that just doesn’t make sense for us. Thinking about it more the “idea” of Boyd (big, physical, character, can contribute a bit) and the “history” of Boyd (under 100 games and under 30 point career totals, missed a lot of time last year) it seems inevitable to have a disconnect between ask and offer. |
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Post by Score on Oct 5, 2022 18:20:30 GMT -4
So the Isles finally confirmed that Boyd is playing with St.Mary's......to play closer to home for personal reasons. Brabenec will suit up Friday . fb.watch/fZLuK9E4ge/ |
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Post by switchback on Oct 6, 2022 18:57:28 GMT -4
I see Nathan Mossey has been removed from the roster in the website as has Dawson Stairs
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Post by islander19 on Oct 6, 2022 19:29:13 GMT -4
I see Nathan Mossey has been removed from the roster in the website as has Dawson Stairs Weird…as of the Isles in 60 video yesterday they were both part of the team, with Mossey being the only player not available this weekend. |
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