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Post by jboyz on Dec 19, 2022 13:50:06 GMT -4
If the 3 way trade with Chicoutimi and Drummondville comes to fruition it’s likely something like this: Drummondville adds Loshko, Langlois CB adds Rotondi or Hinkley + picks Chicoutimi gets picks, Euro from Drummondville It’s very possible Langlois returns as an OA next year and Loshko returns as a 19 YO so drummondville gets value for both years. I think it would have Desruisseaux going to Chicoutimi. Maybe something like: Drummondville gets Loshko + Langlois Cape gets Goyette + Hinkley + picks Chicoutimi gets Holecek, Desruisseaux + picks
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 19, 2022 14:19:54 GMT -4
If the 3 way trade with Chicoutimi and Drummondville comes to fruition it’s likely something like this: Drummondville adds Loshko, Langlois CB adds Rotondi or Hinkley + picks Chicoutimi gets picks, Euro from Drummondville It’s very possible Langlois returns as an OA next year and Loshko returns as a 19 YO so drummondville gets value for both years. I think it would have Desruisseaux going to Chicoutimi. Maybe something like: Drummondville gets Loshko + Langlois Cape gets Goyette + Hinkley + picks Chicoutimi gets Holecek, Desruisseaux + picks Those would have to be some very good picks going to us.
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 19, 2022 14:20:07 GMT -4
If the 3 way trade with Chicoutimi and Drummondville comes to fruition it’s likely something like this: Drummondville adds Loshko, Langlois CB adds Rotondi or Hinkley + picks Chicoutimi gets picks, Euro from Drummondville It’s very possible Langlois returns as an OA next year and Loshko returns as a 19 YO so drummondville gets value for both years. I think it would have Desruisseaux going to Chicoutimi. Maybe something like: Drummondville gets Loshko + Langlois Cape gets Goyette + Hinkley + picks Chicoutimi gets Holecek, Desruisseaux + picks Fair points, I forgot about the desruisseaux situation. Honestly those moves would make a lot of “sense” if it comes down to it.
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Post by jboyz on Dec 19, 2022 14:48:59 GMT -4
I think it would have Desruisseaux going to Chicoutimi. Maybe something like: Drummondville gets Loshko + Langlois Cape gets Goyette + Hinkley + picks Chicoutimi gets Holecek, Desruisseaux + picks Fair points, I forgot about the desruisseaux situation. Honestly those moves would make a lot of “sense” if it comes down to it. Im hearing teams like Halifax and Quebec have increased there interest on Langlois with Gaudet going to Sherbrooke. Halifax is an interesting one because Russell does have some big trade history with Sly with the Maher/Morand trade and Asselin deal. They also have some very good young D who could fit well in CB. If I’m sly and even considering trading Langlois to Halifax I’d be asking for atleast MacKinnon and Crosby (Not Nate and Sid lol) along with some picks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2022 15:23:00 GMT -4
Sorry, but I can't get behind any deal that would include Crosby. MacKinnon or Martin would be very welcome additions, Peitzsche is one I could get behind and then of course there is Phillips, but he just maybe the most untouchable of them all. I don't see Cam giving up any of these guys for Langlois, well maybe Crosby, but I would be surprised if there are any teams asking for him at the moment as part of an acceptable return.
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Post by JEagle on Dec 19, 2022 19:15:11 GMT -4
Assuming that the 3-way trade with Drummondville and Chicoutimi happens and the Eagles ended up trading Langlois and Desruisseaux I'd personally prefer a package that'd bring forward Emmanuel Vermette from Chicoutimi and defenceman Matteo Rotondi from Drummondville with draft picks or another player.
As for the mention of Lane Hinkley personally I have no interest in the Eagles acquiring him I don't know what it is but he's never really interested me much when I watched him and as much as he needs a change of scenery I think Charlottetown would be the better fit for him.
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Post by classiccaper on Dec 19, 2022 19:38:25 GMT -4
Assuming that the 3-way trade with Drummondville and Chicoutimi happens and the Eagles ended up trading Langlois and Desruisseaux I'd personally prefer a package that'd bring forward Emmanuel Vermette from Chicoutimi and defenceman Matteo Rotondi from Drummondville with draft picks or another player. As for the mention of Lane Hinkley personally I have no interest in the Eagles acquiring him I don't know what it is but he's never really interested me much when I watched him and as much as he needs a change of scenery I think Charlottetown would be the better fit for him. what about the possibility of bring in 2006 goalie ruggerio from chicoutimi. If indeed cloutier is looking like he is going the ushl, this could be a good alternative. #19 overall. Assuming they would make him available of course. Just a thought for a discussion
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Post by JEagle on Dec 19, 2022 19:59:43 GMT -4
Assuming that the 3-way trade with Drummondville and Chicoutimi happens and the Eagles ended up trading Langlois and Desruisseaux I'd personally prefer a package that'd bring forward Emmanuel Vermette from Chicoutimi and defenceman Matteo Rotondi from Drummondville with draft picks or another player. As for the mention of Lane Hinkley personally I have no interest in the Eagles acquiring him I don't know what it is but he's never really interested me much when I watched him and as much as he needs a change of scenery I think Charlottetown would be the better fit for him. what about the possibility of bring in 2006 goalie ruggerio from chicoutimi. If indeed cloutier is looking like he is going the ushl, this could be a good alternative. #19 overall. Assuming they would make him available of course. Just a thought for a discussion I doubt he's available as if Chicoutimi is targeting 2025-2026 as their go for it year they'd want to keep Ruggerio as he'd be 19 and hopefully a top goaltender in the league that season. As for the Eagles part of that equation assuming he was available he doesn't fit the Eagles' cycle as he'd still be developing as an 18yo the Eagles if they do contend during the 24-25 season would need either a top 2004 who would be an overager that season which I think they're still holding out hope Ruccia will be that or a quality 2005.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2022 9:22:47 GMT -4
Assuming that the 3-way trade with Drummondville and Chicoutimi happens and the Eagles ended up trading Langlois and Desruisseaux I'd personally prefer a package that'd bring forward Emmanuel Vermette from Chicoutimi and defenceman Matteo Rotondi from Drummondville with draft picks or another player. As for the mention of Lane Hinkley personally I have no interest in the Eagles acquiring him I don't know what it is but he's never really interested me much when I watched him and as much as he needs a change of scenery I think Charlottetown would be the better fit for him. Vermette would be the best option of them all, no question. I just don't think he is on the table, even if they are saying 2025-2026 is their year, but you never know. Masse is off to such an amazing start maybe they would part ways with him for the right price.
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 20, 2022 9:41:42 GMT -4
Assuming that the 3-way trade with Drummondville and Chicoutimi happens and the Eagles ended up trading Langlois and Desruisseaux I'd personally prefer a package that'd bring forward Emmanuel Vermette from Chicoutimi and defenceman Matteo Rotondi from Drummondville with draft picks or another player. As for the mention of Lane Hinkley personally I have no interest in the Eagles acquiring him I don't know what it is but he's never really interested me much when I watched him and as much as he needs a change of scenery I think Charlottetown would be the better fit for him. I agree with you about Hinkley, he wouldn't be my pick. But with Buteau gone he has left a hole for a big-bodied D, and we also have no '04 defencemen as it stands. I think we'll look to add someone of that description either now or at the draft, and with Hinkley known to be available and also being familiar to Sly, I'm just connecting dots. Thank being said, he is actually a better fit for Chicoutimi. They only have 4 healthy D. I'd way rather Beaudry, and then Rotondi. On Vermette - yeah, the Sags won't want to part with him. But if they are looking for Desruisseault they are going to have to give up something they don't want to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2022 9:51:39 GMT -4
Problem is, are they looking for Desruisseaux or are we shopping him? I don't think he carries full value if he asked for a trade and we are shopping him.
I still hope we can move Langlois and hang on to Desruisseaux. At this point maybe Hinkly + for Langlois is better then the a 3 way deal with the Sags.
I really hope that the fans in Cape can hang on for this group to develop. It's a tough ask and it's been way too long, but to start moving young assets out in a desperate measure to finish in the top 16 is a huge mistake.
We still have a ton of picks and guys like Rotondi, Beaudry, Vermette and the list goes on will be still be available via picks in due time
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 20, 2022 11:15:48 GMT -4
Problem is, are they looking for Desruisseaux or are we shopping him? I don't think he carries full value if he asked for a trade and we are shopping him. I still hope we can move Langlois and hang on to Desruisseaux. At this point maybe Hinkly + for Langlois is better then the a 3 way deal with the Sags. I really hope that the fans in Cape can hang on for this group to develop. It's a tough ask and it's been way too long, but to start moving young assets out in a desperate measure to finish in the top 16 is a huge mistake. We still have a ton of picks and guys like Rotondi, Beaudry, Vermette and the list goes on will be still be available via picks in due time Yeah, I don't see how involving Chicoutimi in the deal will benefit us. Hinkley/Rotondi/Beaudry + picks is not a good return for Langlois + Desruisseault, unless those picks are multiple very good picks. That is regardless of whether Desruisseault wants out or not. I think we get more if we move them separately. I know I'm opening a whole can of worms that gets done to death on this forum, but don't think you can afford to move Desruisseaux for much less just because he wants out. It's not the same as a Delafontaine situation. You can't just constantly do right by the player and get fleeced. I'm really hoping that Desruissault wanting out is just a rumour. If we're shopping him, I don't get it but whatever. But if one of our key 16s are jumping ship already that is a very bad sign.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2022 12:36:54 GMT -4
If Desruisseaux wants out, it not for the same reasons as Delafontaine. Desruisseaux was without question interviewed and asked if he would report at the same time he would have been fed the message of the rebuild, youth movement, development , etc..If he does want to leave now it has nothing to do the weather the food or the billet family. If we f*k this one up it's another scar we can't afford.
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Post by classiccaper on Dec 20, 2022 12:37:05 GMT -4
Problem is, are they looking for Desruisseaux or are we shopping him? I don't think he carries full value if he asked for a trade and we are shopping him. I still hope we can move Langlois and hang on to Desruisseaux. At this point maybe Hinkly + for Langlois is better then the a 3 way deal with the Sags. I really hope that the fans in Cape can hang on for this group to develop. It's a tough ask and it's been way too long, but to start moving young assets out in a desperate measure to finish in the top 16 is a huge mistake. We still have a ton of picks and guys like Rotondi, Beaudry, Vermette and the list goes on will be still be available via picks in due time Yeah, I don't see how involving Chicoutimi in the deal will benefit us. Hinkley/Rotondi/Beaudry + picks is not a good return for Langlois + Desruisseault, unless those picks are multiple very good picks. That is regardless of whether Desruisseault wants out or not. I think we get more if we move them separately. I know I'm opening a whole can of worms that gets done to death on this forum, but don't think you can afford to move Desruisseaux for much less just because he wants out. It's not the same as a Delafontaine situation. You can't just constantly do right by the player and get fleeced. I'm really hoping that Desruissault wanting out is just a rumour. If we're shopping him, I don't get it but whatever. But if one of our key 16s are jumping ship already that is a very bad sign. moving deruisseaux, we wont come out on top imo. It will most likely be a 1st round pick for him at best, maybe we get another mid round pick. Look at what Nathan Baril was aquired for. 1st and 4th. Granted he is 17 and not 16, but is also more of a known commodity.
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 20, 2022 13:30:00 GMT -4
moving deruisseaux, we wont come out on top imo. It will most likely be a 1st round pick for him at best, maybe we get another mid round pick. Look at what Nathan Baril was aquired for. 1st and 4th. Granted he is 17 and not 16, but is also more of a known commodity. I agree that it's unlikely we come out on top, but we should still get all we can. 1st and mid round/prospect is acceptable. Baril is actually a decent comparison - I'm not sure he has done anything to increase his value between his draft and now, maybe even taking a hit. Moving him with Langlois almost definitely reduces the return imo.
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