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Post by Briwhel on May 8, 2024 10:27:33 GMT -4
Speaking as an outsider, Bathurst has at least the 9th overall pick (in terms of how early).
One of the big things will be that Bathurst needs to make a decision on how exactly they want to rebuild.
If you are truly rebuilding, then moving Gendron before he ever takes a shift for Bathurst could be a good idea (with the idea that you would be looking for a younger forward in any deal). By the same token, the same thing could be said that Huggan would be good to move.
On the other hand, if you want to build up (using last year as a base), it might make sense to use some of the new found assets to acquire a younger forward to play that role (maybe target a Peitzsche for example) taking a risk that the younger player steps up (because someone who already fits would cost too much to make sense.
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Post by jordo999 on May 8, 2024 10:39:01 GMT -4
Speaking as an outsider, Bathurst has at least the 9th overall pick (in terms of how early). One of the big things will be that Bathurst needs to make a decision on how exactly they want to rebuild. If you are truly rebuilding, then moving Gendron before he ever takes a shift for Bathurst could be a good idea (with the idea that you would be looking for a younger forward in any deal). By the same token, the same thing could be said that Huggan would be good to move. On the other hand, if you want to build up (using last year as a base), it might make sense to use some of the new found assets to acquire a younger forward to play that role (maybe target a Peitzsche for example) taking a risk that the younger player steps up (because someone who already fits would cost too much to make sense. yup that's where it gets interesting/tough is we don't have a clearcut year to contend unless the plan is to stockpile the 2024 draft as much as possible. As it seems, not this season coming but the one after (2025-2026) with Perron (20) Clements (20) Laberge (19) and Belanger (18) would make the most sense? But our roster is very spread out age wise. If the value is there for both Huggan and Gendron then it's not a bad idea either, Moncton could be a team that Gendron would fit in with as they're looking to contend plus he's local. I think acquiring another forward or 2 that is the same age as Belanger isn't a bad idea. We could realistically see 2 potential back to back competitive seasons in the future if everything is played right.
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Post by davo1997 on May 8, 2024 11:24:31 GMT -4
so with the rumored deals in place already for the draft we can be looking at something along these lines Huggan - - Gendron Euro - Belanger - Lallier Pilgrim-Edwards - St-Onge - Sharkey draft - Peddigrew - Frechette? draft - Dickson? - Marmulak? Collette? etc. The forward core still needs some additions in my opinion. Gendron brings some much needed size and hopefully he can have an even bigger season offensively, I don't think Belanger is ready to be the 1C but bringing one in without spending a bunch of picks is tough. Unless we can grab a top euro center. Interested to see what Gordie does for this forward group. Clements - Perron Buteau - Laberge Reynolds - MacGillivray draft? The D core is pretty well set, however I wouldn't be apposed to an upgrade on MacGillivray, especially a right-hand shot. Buteau is pretty much the perfect replacement for Mburanumwe and should help Laberge take another step. Keller draft Hopefully Keller is back but if not then Fleming can hold the fort or we can go out and acquire a good OA goalie as there will likely be a decent amount of them on the market. on paper this team isn't terrible at all, the D core is strong, goaltending has potential to be strong, our forward core is lacking a bit and we have no true "star power." If we can round out the top 6 we have potential to be even better this year. Replacing Orr and Roelens production will be tough though but we may have more depth this time around. I think we pick 3 times in the first round this year (if these rumors are true) im hoping we move up to take Chartrand i dont how possible it is but it be nice to see him on the team for the next 4 years. Gendron will be moved for sure possibly at the draft but maybe even at Christmas. I think the titans should be all in for this draft
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Post by Briwhel on May 8, 2024 11:32:50 GMT -4
so with the rumored deals in place already for the draft we can be looking at something along these lines Huggan - - Gendron Euro - Belanger - Lallier Pilgrim-Edwards - St-Onge - Sharkey draft - Peddigrew - Frechette? draft - Dickson? - Marmulak? Collette? etc. The forward core still needs some additions in my opinion. Gendron brings some much needed size and hopefully he can have an even bigger season offensively, I don't think Belanger is ready to be the 1C but bringing one in without spending a bunch of picks is tough. Unless we can grab a top euro center. Interested to see what Gordie does for this forward group. Clements - Perron Buteau - Laberge Reynolds - MacGillivray draft? The D core is pretty well set, however I wouldn't be apposed to an upgrade on MacGillivray, especially a right-hand shot. Buteau is pretty much the perfect replacement for Mburanumwe and should help Laberge take another step. Keller draft Hopefully Keller is back but if not then Fleming can hold the fort or we can go out and acquire a good OA goalie as there will likely be a decent amount of them on the market. on paper this team isn't terrible at all, the D core is strong, goaltending has potential to be strong, our forward core is lacking a bit and we have no true "star power." If we can round out the top 6 we have potential to be even better this year. Replacing Orr and Roelens production will be tough though but we may have more depth this time around. I think we pick 3 times in the first round this year (if these rumors are true) im hoping we move up to take Chartrand i dont how possible it is but it be nice to see him on the team for the next 4 years. Gendron will be moved for sure possibly at the draft but maybe even at Christmas. I think the titans should be all in for this draft All-in for a draft? Playing more than 4 16s requires special permission (and isn't really advisable). With 4 picks in the first 23, that's likely it for kids making the team. If the CB pick could move one of the firsts up, that might be a good plan). If it could get a kid that fills a hole (preferably a 17 or 18 year-old) then that isn't a bad play either. Making
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Post by davo1997 on May 8, 2024 11:38:26 GMT -4
I think we pick 3 times in the first round this year (if these rumors are true) im hoping we move up to take Chartrand i dont how possible it is but it be nice to see him on the team for the next 4 years. Gendron will be moved for sure possibly at the draft but maybe even at Christmas. I think the titans should be all in for this draft All-in for a draft? Playing more than 4 16s requires special permission (and isn't really advisable). With 4 picks in the first 23, that's likely it for kids making the team. If the CB pick could move one of the firsts up, that might be a good plan). If it could get a kid that fills a hole (preferably a 17 or 18 year-old) then that isn't a bad play either. Making I meant get high picks lol thats why i exampled Chartrand we get him we arent picking that many times in the first
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Post by davo1997 on May 8, 2024 12:52:58 GMT -4
What are the exact picks the titans hold in the 2024 draft
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Post by jordo999 on May 8, 2024 21:09:46 GMT -4
What are the exact picks the titans hold in the 2024 draft 9, 18, 23, 32 are the higher ones, I forget exactly the rest but I'll try and find the list again.
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Post by jordo999 on May 8, 2024 21:11:46 GMT -4
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Post by davo1997 on May 9, 2024 17:51:20 GMT -4
What are the exact picks the titans hold in the 2024 draft 9, 18, 23, 32 are the higher ones, I forget exactly the rest but I'll try and find the list again. 3 in the top 25 is awesome! Should be another first if the rumors are true. hoping it falls in the range of 10-15
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Post by patrick on May 10, 2024 18:41:23 GMT -4
with the desertion to the US for several players listed in the first round, the 2025 draft will not go down in history for the number of those who will play this fall... Wouldn't it be better not to put everything into this year ?
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Post by jordo999 on May 11, 2024 8:41:53 GMT -4
with the desertion to the US for several players listed in the first round, the 2025 draft will not go down in history for the number of those who will play this fall... Wouldn't it be better not to put everything into this year ? to be fair the Titan still have 3 1st round picks in 2025 so I'm guessing the idea here is potentially build properly for 2 straight competitive seasons.
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Post by davo1997 on May 11, 2024 9:18:37 GMT -4
with the desertion to the US for several players listed in the first round, the 2025 draft will not go down in history for the number of those who will play this fall... Wouldn't it be better not to put everything into this year ? to be fair the Titan still have 3 1st round picks in 2025 so I'm guessing the idea here is potentially build properly for 2 straight competitive seasons. This years draft and next years draft makes sense for sure. that being said do we want to go for it when our players drafted in 24 and 25 are 17 and 18. Laberge will be a 20 when they are that age and i think the team goes for a deep run with laberge as a 20. We went to early when we had Kidney and Melanson they were only 18 i dont want to see a repeat of that. maybe we move Laberge i know it sounds bad but our core players wont be ready in time (if we build around 2024,25 draft picks) :
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Post by jordo999 on May 11, 2024 18:07:46 GMT -4
to be fair the Titan still have 3 1st round picks in 2025 so I'm guessing the idea here is potentially build properly for 2 straight competitive seasons. This years draft and next years draft makes sense for sure. that being said do we want to go for it when our players drafted in 24 and 25 are 17 and 18. Laberge will be a 20 when they are that age and i think the team goes for a deep run with laberge as a 20. We went to early when we had Kidney and Melanson they were only 18 i dont want to see a repeat of that. maybe we move Laberge i know it sounds bad but our core players wont be ready in time (if we build around 2024,25 draft picks) : I agree, Waiting till Melanson and Kidney were 19 and not acquiring Lapierre would've been the much better route imo. Plus we would've still had Gaudet. But I think at the time Sly knew his time was up and that's why he did what he did. I think Dwyer is doing things very differently which is good, and this is arguably the most assets we've ever had in any rebuild.
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Post by davo1997 on May 12, 2024 8:17:05 GMT -4
This years draft and next years draft makes sense for sure. that being said do we want to go for it when our players drafted in 24 and 25 are 17 and 18. Laberge will be a 20 when they are that age and i think the team goes for a deep run with laberge as a 20. We went to early when we had Kidney and Melanson they were only 18 i dont want to see a repeat of that. maybe we move Laberge i know it sounds bad but our core players wont be ready in time (if we build around 2024,25 draft picks) : I agree, Waiting till Melanson and Kidney were 19 and not acquiring Lapierre would've been the much better route imo. Plus we would've still had Gaudet. But I think at the time Sly knew his time was up and that's why he did what he did. I think Dwyer is doing things very differently which is good, and this is arguably the most assets we've ever had in any rebuild. I agree i think Gordies plan is great i just wonder if Laberge should be shopped after the 24-25 season. i guess we will have to see what truly happens at the draft. If we get another first and send a 2026 first back i hope we can work on getting into the top 5 maybe even the top 3 if Valdor wants to pick 2 and possibly pick 9 and 18 not sure what else it would to get the 3rd overall pick. i think cracking the top 5 is a good idea especially with the amount of draft capital we have over the next two seasons. Buteau and Gendron would be huge adds i dont know if Gendron will end up playing here but he will get every oppurtunity on this team to be a PPG player or more and possibly get a higher return at the deadline. Buteau will be here to stay i feel and i cant wait to see him on the blue line.
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Post by jordo999 on May 12, 2024 9:25:42 GMT -4
I agree, Waiting till Melanson and Kidney were 19 and not acquiring Lapierre would've been the much better route imo. Plus we would've still had Gaudet. But I think at the time Sly knew his time was up and that's why he did what he did. I think Dwyer is doing things very differently which is good, and this is arguably the most assets we've ever had in any rebuild. I agree i think Gordies plan is great i just wonder if Laberge should be shopped after the 24-25 season. i guess we will have to see what truly happens at the draft. If we get another first and send a 2026 first back i hope we can work on getting into the top 5 maybe even the top 3 if Valdor wants to pick 2 and possibly pick 9 and 18 not sure what else it would to get the 3rd overall pick. i think cracking the top 5 is a good idea especially with the amount of draft capital we have over the next two seasons. Buteau and Gendron would be huge adds i dont know if Gendron will end up playing here but he will get every oppurtunity on this team to be a PPG player or more and possibly get a higher return at the deadline. Buteau will be here to stay i feel and i cant wait to see him on the blue line. yeah time will tell what the true plan is, I think Laberge will be pretty dominant at 19/20 and maybe even NHL drafted or at least signed/invited. I think getting into the top 5 is probably on their radar but at the same time if we pick 3 times in the 1st round already I think I'd rather have 3-4 guys then 1 or 2. Buteau should be fun to watch, big defenseman coming off a career year and has some offensive flare here and there, perfect partner for Laberge. I really hope they add a right shot D-man though. I agree on Gendron, move him if the value is there but otherwise keep him and could potentially move him at the deadline for even more value. He had a strong playoff and playing 1st line minutes with us he could take that next step.
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