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Post by dmac99 on Oct 24, 2024 12:00:03 GMT -4
young goalie 1-6 old goalie 2-9 not good enough guys sorry
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Post by Score on Oct 24, 2024 12:21:25 GMT -4
young goalie 1-6 old goalie 2-9 not good enough guys sorry Hughes has been very ineffective...time to move on from that experiment. He's not a 20 on this league |
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Post by dmac99 on Oct 24, 2024 12:53:06 GMT -4
hughes another one called back last night seems he heats up in November scored 20 November on last year
if he is your only worry you need to start rewatching some tape. agree numbers poor to start but if u look at stats he still top 5. Campbell 0 so far but playing great too. See both of these guys turning it on in November watch and see.
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Post by bois on Oct 24, 2024 17:32:30 GMT -4
Simply put we absolutely suck
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Post by emerz on Oct 24, 2024 19:15:45 GMT -4
Not an Islanders fan myself - it feels like your team is in year zero of the rebuild here. Basically have to hit on a few consecutive picks this year & hope the top guys you picked in this past draft find a way to become impact players at this level.
Assuming you guys have your 1st round pick, that’s the best way to get a cornerstone player to build around, maybe a little draft lottery luck and snag Alexis Joseph.
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Post by lirette on Oct 25, 2024 7:33:19 GMT -4
Not an Islanders fan myself - it feels like your team is in year zero of the rebuild here. Basically have to hit on a few consecutive picks this year & hope the top guys you picked in this past draft find a way to become impact players at this level. Assuming you guys have your 1st round pick, that’s the best way to get a cornerstone player to build around, maybe a little draft lottery luck and snag Alexis Joseph. The problem with the Islanders rebuild is they haven't been able restock their draft picks properly and are already in their third season away from their last run. Next draft they have their first and second pick but no 3rd or 4th, 2026 they have a 1st, 4th & 7th. At this point in the rebuild theres no reason you arent loaded with picks from moving vets out to contenders. If they were truly "year zero", theyd have some prime 19 year olds to trade, but instead are adding vets like Ruccia to compete. This offseason they traded more valuable picks than they received. Last years trade period the Shields trade was decent but thats all they did. 2023 offseason they added Huckins and traded Repcik, and the trade period prior they got limited value out of Lapenna & Brabanec. There is really no excuse for a team whos in a third year from their contending season to not have a single 16 year old in the lineup to build around. Halifax has 2, Bathurst & SJ has 3. They really have no choice but to see if they can get multiple 1sts for Kearsey this trade period if they want any chance at assembling a core the next couple years. Perhaps they can get a 1st or 2nd and a prospect for Michaud. I'd be calling up Yannick Jean to see if he wants to do some early buying for his 2025-26 roster. |
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Post by bois on Oct 25, 2024 11:35:30 GMT -4
Said it fir two years now but lirette is right
Appreciated the teams we had during the lead up and actual go for it year but the rebuild has been awful
Very little top level talent in our system but a buncha great 3rd or 4th liners
Nothing against Ruccia but hultons love for trading for other teams goalies is disconcerting and unnecessary when you do not have a competitive team
Lack of offense is problem and has been for 3 years now
Absolutely must cash out on kearsay i think we should have last year or the draft while his value was high… bad half year this lessens value somewhat
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Post by dave12 on Oct 25, 2024 15:28:15 GMT -4
Said it fir two years now but lirette is right Appreciated the teams we had during the lead up and actual go for it year but the rebuild has been awful Very little top level talent in our system but a buncha great 3rd or 4th liners Nothing against Ruccia but hultons love for trading for other teams goalies is disconcerting and unnecessary when you do not have a competitive team Lack of offense is problem and has been for 3 years now Absolutely must cash out on kearsay i think we should have last year or the draft while his value was high… bad half year this lessens value somewhat It's concerning we're having this discussion 13 games into the season. We're 3 years into a rebuild and we're now talking about selling and rebuilding again? Assets are at a minimum, draft picks for upcoming drafts are limited, so what now? How deep is this hole we're in? |
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Post by dmac99 on Oct 25, 2024 15:35:26 GMT -4
it's a very deep hole and no assets to get out of it
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Post by emerz on Oct 25, 2024 15:38:42 GMT -4
Said it fir two years now but lirette is right Appreciated the teams we had during the lead up and actual go for it year but the rebuild has been awful Very little top level talent in our system but a buncha great 3rd or 4th liners Nothing against Ruccia but hultons love for trading for other teams goalies is disconcerting and unnecessary when you do not have a competitive team Lack of offense is problem and has been for 3 years now Absolutely must cash out on kearsay i think we should have last year or the draft while his value was high… bad half year this lessens value somewhat It's concerning we're having this discussion 13 games into the season. We're 3 years into a rebuild and we're now talking about selling and rebuilding again? Assets are at a minimum, draft picks for upcoming drafts are limited, so what now? How deep is this hole we're in? What has to be considered is that not every rebuild is going to actually work. From the outside looking in, I’m not seeing a fast way for the Islanders to right the ship outside of a lottery win & Alexis Joseph pick that might accelerate it by a year. Granted I’m not an Islanders fan nor am I as versed on your current prospects. I’m just not seeing what year your current group 16-18 year old of players would be potentially contending in. I never understood the Ruccia trade for that reason, sure he might win you a few more games this season, but is that even a good thing? I’d argue probably not given where the Islanders are at in their cycle vs the contending teams this season. Wouldn’t it be a wiser choice to hold on to the assets for drafting and or trade bait for an established 17-18 year old player? |
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Post by dutchinc on Oct 25, 2024 19:02:32 GMT -4
I’ve said it before we’re in a tight spot.
Some rebuilds suck, like the Seadogs, been in the basement for a bit.
We will be in the basement this season and close to it next year. I bet it be 3 seasons before we’re in the top/mid pack …and I’m not even referring to contending, that’s another year.
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Post by elementz on Oct 27, 2024 11:23:39 GMT -4
I’ve said it before we’re in a tight spot. S ome rebuilds suck, like the Seadogs, been in the basement for a bit. We will be in the basement this season and close to it next year. I bet it be 3 seasons before we’re in the top/mid pack …and I’m not even referring to contending, that’s another year. Much easier to swallow after hoisting the Memorial Cup. |
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Post by Citris on Oct 27, 2024 11:53:37 GMT -4
Said it fir two years now but lirette is right Appreciated the teams we had during the lead up and actual go for it year but the rebuild has been awful Very little top level talent in our system but a buncha great 3rd or 4th liners Nothing against Ruccia but hultons love for trading for other teams goalies is disconcerting and unnecessary when you do not have a competitive team Lack of offense is problem and has been for 3 years now Absolutely must cash out on kearsay i think we should have last year or the draft while his value was high… bad half year this lessens value somewhat I knew Ruccia was going to be an Islander at like Christmas last year. Not from any inside information, just because Hulton has been in the league almost 10 years now and he has some predictable habits. As you mentioned, he loves a veteran netminder and Ruccia was obviously going to be the odd man out in CB with the emergence of Milota. Wasn't hard to put 1 and 1 together. The big problem with Hulton's management style took a while to catch up with him - but it's finally rearing its ugly head - he tries to be competitive every year, and his methods of doing so don't take much consideration into the future of the team. He'll trade picks and future studs in order to bolster his short-term lineup, but rarely every has a plan to sell off and restock. And finally he ran into a situation where the cupboards are empty. Balmas, Boudrias, Gill, Oliver, Booth, and I'm sure there's more, but just off the top of my head these were / are studs in this league that Hulton moved to "win now" instead of being patient and waiting to develop them. This on top of spending big assets on one-year goalies.... yea of course the cupboards are empty. Note - Hulton has made some outstanding trades as well, don't get me wrong. But overall the asset management tends to him never restocking the cupboards and slowly bleeding out assets. |
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Post by countryboy on Oct 27, 2024 12:20:48 GMT -4
Booth got traded in fall 2020. That year was the COVID camp. Players came to camp, isolated for 14 days and then got started. Teams only invited a skeleton crew to camp and left most players home. So it was basically Maritimers and returning players who came to camp.
Booth never even came to training camp. That fall, I think he and his family thought he was Q ready and looked for the trade... dealt to Shawinigan and went right into their lineup and became a stud on their blueline. We faced 17 y/o Booth in the final in 2022 and he looked great.
It was great scouting on our part to pick him, and unfortunate circumstances to have needed to trade him. If a regular, normal period in history, maybe we keep him and he plays for us at 16 that year. He'd likely be traded anyway to leverage some of our deep runs.
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Post by Citris on Oct 28, 2024 9:04:57 GMT -4
Booth got traded in fall 2020. That year was the COVID camp. Players came to camp, isolated for 14 days and then got started. Teams only invited a skeleton crew to camp and left most players home. So it was basically Maritimers and returning players who came to camp. Booth never even came to training camp. That fall, I think he and his family thought he was Q ready and looked for the trade... dealt to Shawinigan and went right into their lineup and became a stud on their blueline. We faced 17 y/o Booth in the final in 2022 and he looked great. It was great scouting on our part to pick him, and unfortunate circumstances to have needed to trade him. If a regular, normal period in history, maybe we keep him and he plays for us at 16 that year. He'd likely be traded anyway to leverage some of our deep runs. That's fair. Booth is a bad example. Still, he definitely needs to do something to restock the cupboards. |
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