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Post by gongshow on Aug 29, 2007 12:19:32 GMT -4
I really liked Baca's game tonight, love the fact that he's not afraid to get involved in the rough stuff. Eastman was decent and there's reason to believe he'll get better once he gets some games under his belt. It was nice to see Marquardt play with some passion when he took that run at Labrie, granted I really wouldn't want him taking a penalty like that once the games are for real but still nice to see some emotion. Riopel was fairly solid but not really tested that much. I thought Legault played well for Bathurst although I didn't think he was really tested that much either. At the end of the game Brannon squared off with Lambke and was wailing on him while he was down on the ice, which was uncalled for and understandably had the Bathurst bench quite upset. Now I'm not sure who Morehouse ended up fighting with but I did see him down on the ice with the Titan player over top of him. Some of the players on the Titan bench were encouraging him to start beating on Morehouse but he did not and simply let Morehouse up. Have to give the Titan player credit there for taking the high road.. There's an important fact missing from your comments about Brannon squaring off with Lambke. Why did Brannon go after Lambke? Well, you forgot to mention that it was Lambke who took a run at Moorehouse after the game had ended ( and no, not just finishing a check) and Brannon was sticking up for his teamate who was given a cheap shot by Lambke. A player who takes a run at your player after the game is over doesn't deserve to have someone "take the high road" with them. Lambke didn't take the high road when he hit Moorehouse after the game ended so why should Brannon take the high road. If Lambke is going to be stupid, then he better be tough. You can't have it both ways, if you want players to follow the "unspoken sportsmanlike rules for fighting" then what Lambke did to Moorehouse is no better. I remember this happened last year when someone ran A. Mac. I hate seeing this happen as well but maybe Lambke will think twice before taking a cheap run at someone. After watching him fight though...I now see why he didn't follow the rules and ask for a fight with Moorehouse! Why didn't Morehouse stick up for himself?He's not a finesse player,he's there for his grit,work ethic etc....if he can't stand up for himself maybe he shouldn't play that style.Lambke lists at 5'10 167....pretty gutsy move by Brannon. Also you think a guy wailing away on a man down is even with throwing a late hit? Like Curtis said "I hate seeing a man down getting pummeled"no matter who it is
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Post by 1fan on Aug 29, 2007 13:06:59 GMT -4
There's an important fact missing from your comments about Brannon squaring off with Lambke. Why did Brannon go after Lambke? Well, you forgot to mention that it was Lambke who took a run at Moorehouse after the game had ended ( and no, not just finishing a check) and Brannon was sticking up for his teamate who was given a cheap shot by Lambke. A player who takes a run at your player after the game is over doesn't deserve to have someone "take the high road" with them. Lambke didn't take the high road when he hit Moorehouse after the game ended so why should Brannon take the high road. If Lambke is going to be stupid, then he better be tough. You can't have it both ways, if you want players to follow the "unspoken sportsmanlike rules for fighting" then what Lambke did to Moorehouse is no better. I remember this happened last year when someone ran A. Mac. I hate seeing this happen as well but maybe Lambke will think twice before taking a cheap run at someone. After watching him fight though...I now see why he didn't follow the rules and ask for a fight with Moorehouse! Why didn't Morehouse stick up for himself?He's not a finesse player,he's there for his grit,work ethic etc....if he can't stand up for himself maybe he shouldn't play that style.Lambke lists at 5'10 167....pretty gutsy move by Brannon. Also you think a guy wailing away on a man down is even with throwing a late hit? " (end quote) No, I wouldn't say it's equal, what Brannon did is worse....but it wasn't a late hit, he took a run at him, by the time Moorehouse got up, Brannon was in... I am not suggesting what Brannon did was right. I just wanted to give more information so that people could judge for themselves. Lambke isn't an inoccent bystander. The fact is that none of that would have happened if Lambke hadn't gone after Moorehouse after the game...that's a fact that can't be intelligently disputed. Whether or not Brannon should have kept wailing away is another issue all together. I agree that it makes you cringe to see a player get wailed on when he's down...but you know it's like a little kid who keeps poking his brother and his brother wacks him one....we don't want one bros hitting another bros but you gotta admit that the bros that got wacked was a little stupid to start the whole thing. That's what I meant about " if you're going to be stupid, you better be tough." I don't condone Brannon's actions, but let's let people know what happened before and after.
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Post by bystander on Aug 29, 2007 13:40:23 GMT -4
I was not there but if Lambke did take a run after the play at Morehouse, then good on ya Brannon for teaching him a lesson. As some of you are saying..maybe he did go to far..well I would dare say it sounds like Lambke wont soon forget the results of his actions. If it was truely too far..well Brannon has best be ready to take whatever comes his way too..
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Post by pug on Aug 29, 2007 15:54:14 GMT -4
good job boyle* pug*
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Post by digitalman on Aug 29, 2007 19:11:09 GMT -4
I really liked Baca's game tonight, love the fact that he's not afraid to get involved in the rough stuff. Eastman was decent and there's reason to believe he'll get better once he gets some games under his belt. It was nice to see Marquardt play with some passion when he took that run at Labrie, granted I really wouldn't want him taking a penalty like that once the games are for real but still nice to see some emotion. Riopel was fairly solid but not really tested that much. I thought Legault played well for Bathurst although I didn't think he was really tested that much either. At the end of the game Brannon squared off with Lambke and was wailing on him while he was down on the ice, which was uncalled for and understandably had the Bathurst bench quite upset. Now I'm not sure who Morehouse ended up fighting with but I did see him down on the ice with the Titan player over top of him. Some of the players on the Titan bench were encouraging him to start beating on Morehouse but he did not and simply let Morehouse up. Have to give the Titan player credit there for taking the high road. Although I'm sure he probably regreted that after Morehouse allegedly (I didn't see it) proceeded to give the Bathurst bench the finger. I'd have no problem with Marquardt doing what he did in the regular season or even the playoffs. What Labrie did is one of the cheapest things you can do and if the ref is gonna be stupid enough to think it's an accident, someone has to make him pay. Besides, the ten minute misconduct wasn't necessary. It might have been because his skates were off the ice during the hit, but I think that's what the 2 for charging was. The ref probably just gave it cause he didn't wanna lose control of the game. In a game that counts, it's 2 for instigating, 5 for fighting and maybe 2 for charging.
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Post by mja on Aug 29, 2007 22:24:45 GMT -4
What surprised me the most about the Marquardt hit on Labrie was that he actually "hit him" that time. How many time do we see Marquardt go for the hit and slam into the glass? Almost like he doesn't want to hit the opposing player. I guess when he really wants to hit the guy he doesn't miss....weird eh? Great hit just the same. Wish we could see more of it from him.
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Post by bystander on Aug 29, 2007 22:58:00 GMT -4
hey maybe he had corrective eye treatment over the summer and does not see double anymore...hitting the right man this year...
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Post by Optimus Reim on Aug 29, 2007 23:19:11 GMT -4
I still think their goalie must have said something cause Labrie ducked at the last minute. Marqhardt still got a good hit but if he hadn't have gotten out of the way that little bit he would have been pasted all over the boards.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Aug 29, 2007 23:27:25 GMT -4
I really liked Baca's game tonight, love the fact that he's not afraid to get involved in the rough stuff. Eastman was decent and there's reason to believe he'll get better once he gets some games under his belt. It was nice to see Marquardt play with some passion when he took that run at Labrie, granted I really wouldn't want him taking a penalty like that once the games are for real but still nice to see some emotion. Riopel was fairly solid but not really tested that much. I thought Legault played well for Bathurst although I didn't think he was really tested that much either. At the end of the game Brannon squared off with Lambke and was wailing on him while he was down on the ice, which was uncalled for and understandably had the Bathurst bench quite upset. Now I'm not sure who Morehouse ended up fighting with but I did see him down on the ice with the Titan player over top of him. Some of the players on the Titan bench were encouraging him to start beating on Morehouse but he did not and simply let Morehouse up. Have to give the Titan player credit there for taking the high road. Although I'm sure he probably regreted that after Morehouse allegedly (I didn't see it) proceeded to give the Bathurst bench the finger. I'd have no problem with Marquardt doing what he did in the regular season or even the playoffs. What Labrie did is one of the cheapest things you can do and if the ref is gonna be stupid enough to think it's an accident, someone has to make him pay. Besides, the ten minute misconduct wasn't necessary. It might have been because his skates were off the ice during the hit, but I think that's what the 2 for charging was. The ref probably just gave it cause he didn't wanna lose control of the game. In a game that counts, it's 2 for instigating, 5 for fighting and maybe 2 for charging. Maybe 2 for charging? I'm sorry but that's about as clear a charge as you're even going to see. That's a definite 2 for charging anytime of the year. Also I would have a problem with Marquardt being off the ice for 19 minutes in a playoff game. I'll agree that something had to be done but if the game meant something it shouldn't have to be done by arguably our best forward
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 30, 2007 7:13:35 GMT -4
Marquardt probably felt this was his time to be a leader ... and at 20 yes it is.
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Post by Sébastien on Aug 30, 2007 7:57:48 GMT -4
I agree with Steve. Although I do understand the logic behind the fact that "your best players must not go in the box", I find that it has been brought to a new extreme lately. Ok, playoffs, game 7 with five minutes left and you're losing by 1, fine. But other then that, I want the players to play aggressively and with passion. I want the leaders of the team to be in the line of fire, not simply watching other "less important" players taking care of the dirty stuff for them. If you're on the bench and you see your best player sticking up for another team member instead of waiting for someone else to do it, it will surely have a positive impact on you.
Ahhhh, where's Cam Neely when you need him.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 30, 2007 8:38:36 GMT -4
I agree with Steve. Although I do understand the logic behind the fact that "your best players must not go in the box", I find that it has been brought to a new extreme lately. Ok, playoffs, game 7 with five minutes left and you're losing by 1, fine. But other then that, I want the players to play aggressively and with passion. I want the leaders of the team to be in the line of fire, not simply watching other "less important" players taking care of the dirty stuff for them. If you're on the bench and you see your best player sticking up for another team member instead of waiting for someone else to do it, it will surely have a positive impact on you. Ahhhh, where's Cam Neely when you need him. If Marquardt brings that kind of passion/intensity for even half the games, he'll be an impact player this year.
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