danny flynn

[buckybuckbuck]

At least he told us something we didn't know rather than the normal "I think" posts followed by the "your an idiot" posts.

[rudolph]

hockey1981 said:

wildcats said:

jai entendu des good source about flynn lessard eagle barberio labelle laime pas pour jouer pour lui hier jau ete a la partie notre deffence font picher et lavant on est trop petit jaime zill mascauland brown but brento go bacl au junior a flynn va ler chercher des size a noel i heard marquart will be trade for sure my uncle talk to flynn all the time my oncle enseigne son enfants et ils on racronter a lecole il faut etre patient avec la team but hope flynn going to get soem size anyways who was the reffree last night he suck big time

I heard from a good source that Lessard, Eagles, Barberio, Labelle don't like playing for Flynn. I was at the game yesterday and our D sucks and forwards are too small. I like Sill, Macausland & Brown but Brenton should go back to Jr A. Flynn should get size at Xmas, My uncle is a teacher & teaches Flynn's kids and he came to school to talk to the kids and to be patient with the team

from $%^%#$ to english

pheeoof... wow got to like that chiac, at least I got the most part, and a better pest than what he usualy posts.

[Captain Obvious]

sharrow said:

Flynn never won a M/C as a head coach his heading coaching experience was with Bellville where he was fired, all his success in Major Junior was on the coat tails of Ted Nolan. Usually unsuccessful Major Junior Coaches go for the cushy jobs at University where 5 year contracts are the norm and underacheiving results go unoticed. (ie) Bob Mongrain etc etc

Flynn or Mongrain were not underachievers in University. There are no chsy jobs in the AUS, the conference in the strongest in the country and there are very few easy games.

[thedoubled]

Check your hockey stats about Flynn getting fired in Belleville ... It is true so i looked it up and they ran away with there conference and was fired before the last game of the season after finishing first. Took St. FX to three national championship final games (not bad), Assistant coach at the World Jr. (Gold), Assistant coach at the World Championship (Bronze), Head Coach Spengler Cup (Gold) Head Coach CIS vs NCAA (Gold), To Memorial Cup Finals (1 win), 3 OHL Championships and 1 Quebec League Championship. Oh ya and coached in the NHL oh ya him and Mongrain have a lot in common At least you can tell who the smart hockey fans on here are who aren't blaming him, and knows the team is not a contender. Anyways hockey isn't about your resume its about what are you doing for me now and everyone knows it, it isn't his fault they have not alot of talent lets bring up the Chief scout who has been there how long and had nothing to do with the players brought in on the mem cup run. Or about trading all the picks for Goyens. Its a patched up team and will take a year or two to get back to the 90 pt season everyone is used to.

[buckybuckbuck]

I'll address a few of your points.

1. Flynn's credentials are indisputable as a Assistant Coach but how are they as the coach. He is unquestionably a technical specialist.

2. If I or others say we have coaching problems then it could be blamed on our associate coach and not necessarily Flynn. However I do think that half of this failure is due to poor choices of the players that were at camp and to players selected to play each game and where, both of which lay squarely at Flynn's feet. It is indisputable that Torchetti did more with less.

3. There was no coach more than Nolan that sold so many for the MemCup team and it wasn't Tochetti or the head scouts choices that created the problem that we face now.

4. The last set of picks were predominately US and non Quebec players that didn't show and weren't ever going to. It would seem to me that the Head scout highlights the players that he likes but doesn't pick them but I could be wrong.

[thedoubled]

buckybuckbuck said:

I'll address a few of your points.

1. Flynn's credentials are indisputable as a Assistant Coach but how are they as the coach. He is unquestionably a technical specialist.

2. If I or others say we have coaching problems then it could be blamed on our associate coach and not necessarily Flynn. However I do think that half of this failure is due to poor choices of the players that were at camp and to players selected to play each game and where, both of which lay squarely at Flynn's feet. It is indisputable that Torchetti did more with less.

3. There was no coach more than Nolan that sold so many for the MemCup team and it wasn't Tochetti or the head scouts choices that created the problem that we face now.

4. The last set of picks were predominately US and non Quebec players that didn't show and weren't ever going to. It would seem to me that the Head scout highlights the players that he likes but doesn't pick them but I could be wrong.

Well if you think that a Spengler Cup as Head coach, and CIS national championship as a head coach is nothing then you don't know hockey

What should of happened last year is they should of traded off the OA defenceman and Gaudet they knew they wenr't going to win get a couple good 18's that would be 19 for this season like every other team does

and about the scouting humm macausland and brown?not bad pics, Dymtryk was going to stay until his dad came and got him but regardless there not game breakers as rookies, last year they traded good picks for goyens who couldn't even make the team.

And again back to torchetti did more with less?? back to my previous arguement of the defence core and gaudet. Who would you rather have for overages MacDonald or Marquarte? Gaudet or Magnon?Welton or Moorehouse. in reality torchetti did have more and they shold of unloaded. If he was back he would be in the same but a bunch of B level players.
Look at Halifax first line 2 first rounders and a potential first rounder

Our head scout is in charge of the euros and boy did he bring over some great ones in the last two years?

[buckybuckbuck]

I love when someone trys to tell someone else on this board that they don't know hockey. Well here's two example of players from last year that apparently don't fit into this years equation.

Labelle
GP G A Pts
Mon 67 12 23 35

Linourt
GP G A Pts
Mon 26 5 15 20

Now here's a couple of others that do

Eagles
GP G A Pts
Mon 50 18 11 29

Morehouse
GP G A Pts
Mon 67 15 12 27

Now if I were a coach, and if I looked at last years numbers and if I knew that Labelle did those numbers with two other rookies, do you think that I would be blaming this years defense because we have a team that can't score. We have a team that was designed not to score. But what do I know yeah thats right nothing.

[curtis]

thedoubled said:

buckybuckbuck said:

I'll address a few of your points.

1. Flynn's credentials are indisputable as a Assistant Coach but how are they as the coach. He is unquestionably a technical specialist.

2. If I or others say we have coaching problems then it could be blamed on our associate coach and not necessarily Flynn. However I do think that half of this failure is due to poor choices of the players that were at camp and to players selected to play each game and where, both of which lay squarely at Flynn's feet. It is indisputable that Torchetti did more with less.

3. There was no coach more than Nolan that sold so many for the MemCup team and it wasn't Tochetti or the head scouts choices that created the problem that we face now.

4. The last set of picks were predominately US and non Quebec players that didn't show and weren't ever going to. It would seem to me that the Head scout highlights the players that he likes but doesn't pick them but I could be wrong.

Well if you think that a Spengler Cup as Head coach, and CIS national championship as a head coach is nothing then you don't know hockey

What should of happened last year is they should of traded off the OA defenceman and Gaudet they knew they wenr't going to win get a couple good 18's that would be 19 for this season like every other team does

and about the scouting humm macausland and brown?not bad pics, Dymtryk was going to stay until his dad came and got him but regardless there not game breakers as rookies, last year they traded good picks for goyens who couldn't even make the team.

And again back to torchetti did more with less?? back to my previous arguement of the defence core and gaudet. Who would you rather have for overages MacDonald or Marquarte? Gaudet or Magnon?Welton or Moorehouse. in reality torchetti did have more and they shold of unloaded. If he was back he would be in the same but a bunch of B level players.
Look at Halifax first line 2 first rounders and a potential first rounder

Our head scout is in charge of the euros and boy did he bring over some great ones in the last two years?

The problem with your argument regarding the possibility of trades or "unloading" last year is that there was simply no market for what we had. If an OA d-man could have brought back an impact 18 year old, the move would have been done. It's all well and good to say we should have made some moves, but what's the point of trading your better players (and completely sacrificing the season) if all you're getting in return are future depth or role players?

I have no problem with the moves (and non-moves) made last season. Our veterans were simply worth a lot more to us than to anyone else...

[bikerboy]

there is one player i did not see at camp and could of had a good job for him this year Whelan that we got for the Spencer trade .

[curtis]

bikerboy said:

there is one player i did not see at camp and could of had a good job for him this year Whelan that we got for the Spencer trade .

So you've seen this player who wasn't at camp play?