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Post by SteveUL on Oct 31, 2007 8:21:17 GMT -4
Did you go to University ? If not ... then how can you say you were pushed as hard as anybody else ? I went the college route with business courses, as I knew what I was getting into..........the difference between me and others that were pushed as hard, is that I pushed back......... And you don't think anybody else pushed back ? Not all kids are thrilled about continuing on with their education after highschool ... but they do anyway because they are pushed. Many are pushed harder than you because they have no idea what they want to do ... while you obviously did have an idea and so it wouldn't take much pushing to get you to go. Your own words ...
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Post by kbt on Oct 31, 2007 9:01:27 GMT -4
It's not a snap at all when he knows fuck all about me.....I'm not from Bathurst first of all..I moved here to take advantage of a good business opportunity that was presented to me........my father also has a PHd and a BAs and something else....he currently teaches in a university in Ireland........I was pushed as hard as anybody else to go the university route, but like I said.........He would be here if he wanted to be. Get over yourself. You obviously didn't move to Bathurst to be their comedy relief. You weren't pushed too hard to go to university if you left home at 16, that's what grade 10? Good for you though, you fought against an education and won. Your father has a Phd and a BA and something else? I wonder if it could be a Masters degree.....it's usually stuck in between the other things. Don't feel bad, lots of people make that mistake. I imagine that Robert Irving would have something to say if a young man decided to run away from home and country to come to Moncton to play hockey for his team. Robert is a good family man and I can't see him allowing a family rift like that to take place if he can help it.
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Post by sharrow on Oct 31, 2007 9:51:41 GMT -4
I guess Demitruk's father was livid when he heard of the $250,000 paid to Brown. Has Brown played in any games yet ? It must be great dressing room chemistry to have this kid grossly overpaid and walking around, not even playing.
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Post by bjindaho on Oct 31, 2007 9:58:51 GMT -4
Homeland security would mean that he CAN'T leave. And saying that because you left home at 16 means that he should is ridiculous. It is NEVER in a kids best interest to leave home at 16.
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Post by markofthebeast on Oct 31, 2007 11:01:59 GMT -4
Homeland security would mean that he CAN'T leave. And saying that because you left home at 16 means that he should is ridiculous. It is NEVER in a kids best interest to leave home at 16. I don't know about that, there are many reasons leaving home at 16 would be good for a young adult (given they are young adults in mentality and not just body). Homeland security means shit really, if he is legally able to cross the border and get a work visa then he can come no matter what his daddy dose. Mind you, I don't think a 16 or 17yo can legally cross the border into Canada on his own( think it might be 18). Not to mention that once the hockey season is over where dose he go? His dad has probably said you wanna leave thats fine but don't come running back I don't run a boarding house (I've had thats speech given to me when I was 16). The thing is it's easy for people to say "if I did it so can he" but none of us know whats really going on. Personally if the kid is saying he would do anything that means he would give up anything in a rational sense. So I wouldn't expect he means he would sell a body part to play for the cats and it would also be irrational for him to run away from his family to play hockey in Canada.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 31, 2007 11:15:23 GMT -4
Homeland security would mean that he CAN'T leave. And saying that because you left home at 16 means that he should is ridiculous. It is NEVER in a kids best interest to leave home at 16. So he is a prisoner in the US ? When did the Berli ... errrr ... Houlton/Calais wall get erected ? Your parents can't physically detain you from leaving your home ... there have been instances of that in the past in NB and those parents served prison sentences. However, most kids respect their parents and do as they are told ... especially when it comes to leaving the country to play hockey for 3 yrs. On another note ... with his father being a high ranking US official ... I'll be willing to bet that his NCAA eligibility is not hampered in any way.
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Post by bjindaho on Oct 31, 2007 11:28:42 GMT -4
A minor is not allowed to run away from home. They have to be 18 to be allowed to get a place of their own. And Homeland Security controls the borders. I'm sure his dad could have him flagged for entry into Canada. You do still have to clear customs (and homeland security is more or less in charge of customs).
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Post by bjindaho on Oct 31, 2007 11:30:32 GMT -4
You can run away, but they can call the cops, and then you would go to court where you would have to argue for your freedom. If you succeed, you would be put in a foster home (not a home of your choice). You CANNOT rent an apartment before you turn 18.
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Post by jimmy on Oct 31, 2007 11:32:05 GMT -4
I suspect this whole thread has turned into bullshit ... if you google Paul Dimitruk, the CEO type on the Homeland Security Council who is referred to is based out of LA ... I don't think this is even the same guy that is Dimitruk's dad - does he even spell his name the same way (I have seen our guy spelled as Dimitruk and Demitruk - which is correct?)?
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Post by bjindaho on Oct 31, 2007 11:34:00 GMT -4
He isn't your guy. He will likely never play in the Q.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 31, 2007 11:35:30 GMT -4
You can run away, but they can call the cops, and then you would go to court where you would have to argue for your freedom. If you succeed, you would be put in a foster home (not a home of your choice). You CANNOT rent an apartment before you turn 18. Somebody over 18 can rent an apartment for you ... or you can live with a billet which he would do here anyway. Its up to the Canadian government on whether he gets sent home ... the US and Homeland Security have no say. To get into Canada he has to pass through Canadian customs ... not US Customs ... and that isn't that tough to do. Plus ... his 18th birthday probably isn't that far off and by the time the Canadian government rules on it he might be 18.
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Post by markofthebeast on Oct 31, 2007 11:35:43 GMT -4
I don't know bout NB but here in Newfoundland you can move out at 16 and there is nothing the parents can do. There is a process where a disowning/emancipation happens that way the parents aren't legally responsible for the 16yo anymore and the 16 yo has all the liability. A good friend of mine went through this he is no worse the were and it may have even help him a bit.
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Post by markofthebeast on Oct 31, 2007 11:39:14 GMT -4
You can run away, but they can call the cops, and then you would go to court where you would have to argue for your freedom. If you succeed, you would be put in a foster home (not a home of your choice). You CANNOT rent an apartment before you turn 18. Its up to the Canadian government on whether he gets sent home ... the US and Homeland Security have no say. To get into Canada he has to pass through Canadian customs ... not US Customs ... and that isn't that tough to do. It depend's they would defiantly confiscate your half sack of potatoes but the 3Kg of coke in the back would probably slip right on by.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 31, 2007 12:23:04 GMT -4
Its up to the Canadian government on whether he gets sent home ... the US and Homeland Security have no say. To get into Canada he has to pass through Canadian customs ... not US Customs ... and that isn't that tough to do. It depend's they would defiantly confiscate your half sack of potatoes but the 3Kg of coke in the back would probably slip right on by. 3kg of coke is only about two 2L bottles ... thats under the limit.
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Post by Porkchop on Oct 31, 2007 12:53:59 GMT -4
I went the college route with business courses, as I knew what I was getting into..........the difference between me and others that were pushed as hard, is that I pushed back......... And you don't think anybody else pushed back ? Not all kids are thrilled about continuing on with their education after highschool ... but they do anyway because they are pushed. Many are pushed harder than you because they have no idea what they want to do ... while you obviously did have an idea and so it wouldn't take much pushing to get you to go. Your own words ... My own words exactly.........what "I" wanted to do........not what "they" wanted me to do..............if he wanted it bad enough and was willing to do anything to be here, he'd be here.......end of story.
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