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Post by SteveUL on Oct 31, 2007 12:58:45 GMT -4
And you don't think anybody else pushed back ? Not all kids are thrilled about continuing on with their education after highschool ... but they do anyway because they are pushed. Many are pushed harder than you because they have no idea what they want to do ... while you obviously did have an idea and so it wouldn't take much pushing to get you to go. Your own words ...  My own words exactly.........what "I" wanted to do........not what "they" wanted me to do..............if he wanted it bad enough and was willing to do anything to be here, he'd be here.......end of story. I see ... ok ... so you are taking the words of a 17 YO kid literally now ... nicely done. When a kid says he'd do anything ... I think he means he'd do anything that his parents asked of him if they would let him come back to Moncton ... such as ... maintaining high grades ... no drugs and alcohol ... be respectful to everybody he meets ... etc. I don't think he is willing to disrespect his parents wishes to come to Moncton ... and frankly I'm not sure I'd want him here if he did that. |
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Post by Porkchop on Oct 31, 2007 13:00:04 GMT -4
It's not a snap at all when he knows fuck all about me.....I'm not from Bathurst first of all..I moved here to take advantage of a good business opportunity that was presented to me........my father also has a PHd and a BAs and something else....he currently teaches in a university in Ireland........I was pushed as hard as anybody else to go the university route, but like I said.........He would be here if he wanted to be. Get over yourself. You obviously didn't move to Bathurst to be their comedy relief. You weren't pushed too hard to go to university if you left home at 16, that's what grade 10? Good for you though, you fought against an education and won. It might be grade 10 for the average joe, but I graduated high school at 15 years old.....  .....I didn't fight an education and win, I got the education I wanted and not somebody elses dream, and I still won......and looking back, I still think I made the right choice,..... |
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Post by Porkchop on Oct 31, 2007 13:01:42 GMT -4
My own words exactly.........what "I" wanted to do........not what "they" wanted me to do..............if he wanted it bad enough and was willing to do anything to be here, he'd be here.......end of story. I see ... ok ... so you are taking the words of a 17 YO kid literally now ... nicely done. When a kid says he'd do anything ... I think he means he'd do anything that his parents asked of him if they would let him come back to Moncton ... such as ... maintaining high grades ... no drugs and alcohol ... be respectful to everybody he meets ... etc. I don't think he is willing to disrespect his parents wishes to come to Moncton ... and frankly I'm not sure I'd want him here if he did that. Why didn't he just say that then.......we could have saved 2 pages in this thread.......... ;D |
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Oct 31, 2007 13:22:34 GMT -4
I see ... ok ... so you are taking the words of a 17 YO kid literally now ... nicely done. When a kid says he'd do anything ... I think he means he'd do anything that his parents asked of him if they would let him come back to Moncton ... such as ... maintaining high grades ... no drugs and alcohol ... be respectful to everybody he meets ... etc. I don't think he is willing to disrespect his parents wishes to come to Moncton ... and frankly I'm not sure I'd want him here if he did that. Why didn't he just say that then.......we could have saved 2 pages in this thread.......... ;D So literally when you call yourself Porkchop then? |
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Post by kbt on Oct 31, 2007 14:53:47 GMT -4
I see ... ok ... so you are taking the words of a 17 YO kid literally now ... nicely done. When a kid says he'd do anything ... I think he means he'd do anything that his parents asked of him if they would let him come back to Moncton ... such as ... maintaining high grades ... no drugs and alcohol ... be respectful to everybody he meets ... etc. I don't think he is willing to disrespect his parents wishes to come to Moncton ... and frankly I'm not sure I'd want him here if he did that. Why didn't he just say that then.......we could have saved 2 pages in this thread.......... ;D It might have saved 2 pages in this thread, but with your penchant for mind numbing and pointless arguments those two pages would have cropped up somewhere else. |
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Post by hockeyfan87 on Oct 31, 2007 17:05:50 GMT -4
Why would he give up a university scholarship to come play in Moncton and then be out of options to have anywhere to go to school and play hockey (except in Canada) if he doesn't make it pro? He has only lost a year of eligibility and doesn't have to sit out. At least he has some doors left open now. Who knows- maybe he'd come up here and sit on the bench like Stephens and Brown- at least he's somewhere where he gets to play.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 31, 2007 17:27:22 GMT -4
Why would he give up a university scholarship to come play in Moncton and then be out of options to have anywhere to go to school and play hockey (except in Canada) if he doesn't make it pro? He has only lost a year of eligibility and doesn't have to sit out. At least he has some doors left open now. Who knows- maybe he'd come up here and sit on the bench like Stephens and Brown- at least he's somewhere where he gets to play. HE isn't doing any of that ... his father is ... you'll have to ask him. He does have the option of playing USHL also which is a decent Jr league that the NHL scouts and drafts from. I assume that is where he is playing now ... haven't kept up with where he is playing. Anybody know ? |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 1, 2007 9:43:23 GMT -4
Why would he give up a university scholarship to come play in Moncton and then be out of options to have anywhere to go to school and play hockey (except in Canada) if he doesn't make it pro? He has only lost a year of eligibility and doesn't have to sit out. At least he has some doors left open now. Who knows- maybe he'd come up here and sit on the bench like Stephens and Brown- at least he's somewhere where he gets to play. HE isn't doing any of that ... his father is ... you'll have to ask him. He does have the option of playing USHL also which is a decent Jr league that the NHL scouts and drafts from. I assume that is where he is playing now ... haven't kept up with where he is playing. Anybody know ? Right now he is in the NEJHL...which is a notch below the USHL. |
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Post by warrenco on Nov 1, 2007 10:16:01 GMT -4
well where ever he is right now is not really good for him....does he really want to play proffesional hockey? if so then he should be in the ushl atleast....he's not even listed in the hockey database as for redline or other scouting reports if he is its probably down the bottom...i highly doubt his father wants him to have a careeer in hockey at all....
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Post by 1fan on Nov 1, 2007 11:09:22 GMT -4
Why would he give up a university scholarship to come play in Moncton and then be out of options to have anywhere to go to school and play hockey (except in Canada) if he doesn't make it pro? He has only lost a year of eligibility and doesn't have to sit out. At least he has some doors left open now. Who knows- maybe he'd come up here and sit on the bench like Stephens and Brown- at least he's somewhere where he gets to play. It's not uncommon for young rookies to be in and out of the line-up. It's called developing a player...the game ice time is really one small part of developing a player. If you happen to notice, both Brown and Stephens have come along way already and much of that is a result of the coaching staff taking their time to teach them and bring them along slowly. You'll notice that they pick their spots or time to insert the young players into the line up. I think it's the proper way to bring along a player and you'll see organizations do this with a lot of players when needed and when possible. It's not hard to think of examples where certain players were thrown into the fire and it actually hampered their development. Every player may be a little different but you should respect the coach's who know the players best as to how to bring them along. I think both Brown and Stephens will work their way into very prominent roles. Play them when they are ready, set them up to be sucessful rather than the old sink or swim attitude... in other words...teach them to swim, then they won't sink |
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Post by hockeyfan87 on Nov 3, 2007 14:48:18 GMT -4
Hmmm... 30 secs on the ice, 5 or less shifts a game. That's great development-especially for your confidence. Sitting and sitting and sitting- great development. My issue is... and I really mean it more to start a discussion than to argue with anyone. I believe that actual game play is where you learn the most and develop. Wouldn't it be better for any club who signs young 16 year olds to have them play a year in Junior A where they will get ice time then have them sit out so much? For MacAusland it is great because he is playing tons. But for the other kids and for some of the young rookies on other teams it seems like their development is actually being hurt. (Take the their making money out of it).
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Post by bauer on Nov 3, 2007 15:30:01 GMT -4
You can't forget how often they are on the ice for practices you don't usually develop playing games you develop while practicing.
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Post by curtis on Nov 3, 2007 16:35:33 GMT -4
I think there is a lot of value simply in having the experience of spending a year with the Cats versus a year playing more at a lower level:
1. You get to know your coach and teammates.
2. Get used to the travel, and juggling education with hockey.
3. Learning systems a year earlier.
4. Coaching staff can closely monitor physical conditioning.
Those are just a few off the top of my head...but there are a lot of reasons not to send a high-end 16 year old home, even if he isn't going to play a ton of minutes.
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Post by downtown on Nov 4, 2007 10:00:51 GMT -4
Matt Brown will be just fine..... but there is absolutely no question that a year playing Junior A in Truro under Shawn Evans would do a world of good for his game. He'd play a lot, and learn even more. Andrew MacDonald and Zach Sill are two prime examples.
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 4, 2007 12:08:35 GMT -4
Matt Brown will be just fine..... but there is absolutely no question that a year playing Junior A in Truro under Shawn Evans would do a world of good for his game. He'd play a lot, and learn even more. Andrew MacDonald and Zach Sill are two prime examples. If Matt Brown is only as good as Zack Sill at 19 then he was a waste of 1st round pick and whatever promises he was given. In Moncton Brown practices almost everyday ... while in Jr A it is typically twice a week. He plays a 70 game season here while in the MJAHL he plays something like 54 games. Here he plays against the best Jr aged players in eastern Canada ... while in Jr a he plays against guys that don't fit that description. Here he plays for a Coach that has NHL experience ... in Truro he plays for a Jr A coach. |
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.....I didn't fight an education and win, I got the education I wanted and not somebody elses dream, and I still won......and looking back, I still think I made the right choice,.....
