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Post by Deer on Jan 7, 2010 20:57:17 GMT -4
SYDNEY — The Cape Breton Screaming Eagles placed goaltender Chris Holden and defenceman Myles Micallef on waivers. Head coach and general manager Mario Durocher said he was trying to make a deal for both players to find them a place to play in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, but couldn’t swing a trade by Thursday’s 1 p.m. Atlantic deadline. The Eagles will now called up 16-year-old prospect Alex Veronneau to backup starter Olivier Roy. "Once an Eagle, Always an Eagle" That used to be this team's mantra. Now apparently we're taking team leaders and 1.5-year veterans and putting them on waivers like yesterday's trash. What does this organization stand for anymore? Certainly not stability or loyalty, like the days of Ouellet/Culligan/Slaney etc. Best of luck to Chris Holden in the future, it was a gutsy decision to make the huge jump from hockey in New Jersey/Philadelphia to the QMJHL, and you proved you were more than capable of playing in this league............ all the while being a great teammate from all accounts, and one of the most outgoing personalities to ever wear the jersey. You deserved to go out in a much better way. No wonder our guys looked so bad last night, the night before the trade deadline. With the way we're just tossing veteran leaders aside left and right, every single player in that lineup probably thought he was getting traded.
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Post by fansince95 on Jan 7, 2010 21:06:11 GMT -4
Why in the world would you want to replace a 19yo very solid backup with a 16yo rookie if you're trying to make a deep run??
What happens if Roy goes down or struggles? IMO contenders should always have a good solid backup that can win you a game in a playoff series at any given time should one of the above happens...
Not pretending I know the ins and outs of the Eagles org. but from what I heard the D might already be a little thin, add in in the departure of Saab, why would you release a decent depth guy like Micalef?
I dont know, cant say it makes sense from an outsiders point of view.
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Post by Hat Trick Swayze's on Jan 7, 2010 21:14:40 GMT -4
I feel bad for MacIntosh, Berg and Chiasson (Muir who had a good game last night as well) who arnt vets and will be thrown to the wolves after contributing on our 6 game streak and falling short in Moncton on the 7th game.... Imagine what will run through there heads in the next couple season if King Mullet stays around..... These 3 players deserve more than this..... your right Deer, Chris deserved better than this he improved his game very well since his first game and for the effort..... Thanks but no thanks C'Ya.....??
the way this orinization is going I can honisly see a long term extention happening for Mario with something along the lines comming out of Paul MacD's mouth
" We like to keep Mario here for the long hall, As he has a long term plan through 2012-2013 and believes this club is in the right direction"
Can anybody else not see that quote in the paper before the playoffs?
Cuz sure as shit he is going to want a deal done before the playoffs..
Just my opinion
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Post by Deer on Jan 7, 2010 22:12:30 GMT -4
Why in the world would you want to replace a 19yo very solid backup with a 16yo rookie if you're trying to make a deep run?? What happens if Roy goes down or struggles? IMO contenders should always have a good solid backup that can win you a game in a playoff series at any given time should one of the above happens... Not pretending I know the ins and outs of the Eagles org. but from what I heard the D might already be a little thin, add in in the departure of Saab, why would you release a decent depth guy like Micalef? I dont know, cant say it makes sense from an outsiders point of view. Look at Shawinigan last year. They fell behind 3-1 to Drummondville in the final, and #1 goalie Timo Pielmeier faltered. So they went to their very solid backup, Gabriel Girard, and he won them Games 5 and 6 to get them back in the series - and then played another strong Game 7, where they lost a heartbreaker. Just an example of how sometimes in a playoff series, you need the other guy to step up. Heck even in a short tournament like the WJC, we just saw it with the USA and Jack Campbell.
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Post by fansince95 on Jan 7, 2010 22:16:57 GMT -4
Why in the world would you want to replace a 19yo very solid backup with a 16yo rookie if you're trying to make a deep run?? What happens if Roy goes down or struggles? IMO contenders should always have a good solid backup that can win you a game in a playoff series at any given time should one of the above happens... Not pretending I know the ins and outs of the Eagles org. but from what I heard the D might already be a little thin, add in in the departure of Saab, why would you release a decent depth guy like Micalef? I dont know, cant say it makes sense from an outsiders point of view. Look at Shawinigan last year. They fell behind 3-1 to Drummondville in the final, and #1 goalie Timo Pielmeier faltered. So they went to their very solid backup, Gabriel Girard, and he won them Games 5 and 6 to get them back in the series - and then played another strong Game 7, where they lost a heartbreaker. Just an example of how sometimes in a playoff series, you need the other guy to step up. Heck even in a short tournament like the WJC, we just saw it with the USA and Jack Campbell. Exactly, which is why that move in particular is puzzling... Maybe if they had of traded him, but letting him go for nothing? Hmm.
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Post by Clubber Lang on Jan 7, 2010 22:52:46 GMT -4
SYDNEY — The Cape Breton Screaming Eagles placed goaltender Chris Holden and defenceman Myles Micallef on waivers. Head coach and general manager Mario Durocher said he was trying to make a deal for both players to find them a place to play in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, but couldn’t swing a trade by Thursday’s 1 p.m. Atlantic deadline. The Eagles will now called up 16-year-old prospect Alex Veronneau to backup starter Olivier Roy. Couldn't agree more. Holden was a class act and I struggle find "Once an Eagle, Always an Eagle" That used to be this team's mantra. Now apparently we're taking team leaders and 1.5-year veterans and putting them on waivers like yesterday's trash. What does this organization stand for anymore? Certainly not stability or loyalty, like the days of Ouellet/Culligan/Slaney etc. Best of luck to Chris Holden in the future, it was a gutsy decision to make the huge jump from hockey in New Jersey/Philadelphia to the QMJHL, and you proved you were more than capable of playing in this league............ all the while being a great teammate from all accounts, and one of the most outgoing personalities to ever wear the jersey. You deserved to go out in a much better way. No wonder our guys looked so bad last night, the night before the trade deadline. With the way we're just tossing veteran leaders aside left and right, every single player in that lineup probably thought he was getting traded. Couldn't agree more. Can't understand this one at all. This is very concerning to move a very solid back up to a waiver claim.
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Post by bois on Jan 8, 2010 9:46:06 GMT -4
what if Holden wanted out?
not saying that's the case but perhaps he wasn't happy as the backup any longer and felt a team would take a chance on him by requesting a trade?
as for Micalef he is no loss at all
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Post by fivehole on Jan 8, 2010 11:37:00 GMT -4
When all is said and done, I dont question what we spent because you got to spend money to make money........however I do question putting the holden guy on waivers for a young back up.......an injury to roy means that you are going to depend on a young inexperienced goalie to compete aginst the top snipers in the league playing for moncton and saint john......not to mention how shitty this is for holden.........this coach is thinking very short term. Also who is larade? , again a 16 or 17 year old inexperienced defenceman as the 7 defence, surely to god micalef would be better serving this team than him in the playoffs Obviously management let him do what ever he wanted. Some good moves , some bad. in the door legault,legace,dion,paul, larade, new goalie out the door ward, holden, micalef, lopostolle,lesieur But remember people we always dont know the whole story, and really micalef was never the same since paquette hit him so maybe he needed to be changed, but why did we not replace him with an experienced defenceman that could contribute
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Post by Clubber Lang on Jan 8, 2010 12:27:31 GMT -4
Damn, CB is really going to be in tough 1st round. What a great series that will be...if they face each other. It wouldn't shock me if you see Moncton go on a very long winning streak and possibly catch the dogs 13 points behind with a game in hand drops it to 11 if they win the four matchups left they are 3. Don't think for a minute Moncton doesn't want to pull ahead and play PEI first round. If I had to pick between the Dogs or Wildcats to play in the first round it would be the dogs but that is still a rough ride.
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Post by elementz on Jan 8, 2010 12:42:29 GMT -4
I agree, the lead that the Dogs have dosen't look as good as it was even a week ago. However, the Dogs seem to have a favourable schedule for their remaining 26 games (not sure about Moncton's sked). If the Dogs finish .500 (13-13 in their remaining 26 games), the Cats would have to go 20-7 in their remaining 27 games. I can't see the Dogs finishing .500, as I think they should at least finish 16-10, therefore, the Cats will have to go 23-4. A tough hill to climb but it is possible, it just goes to show how each game is important for those 2 points. Starting against those pesky Eagles tonight.
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 8, 2010 13:40:01 GMT -4
Damn, CB is really going to be in tough 1st round. What a great series that will be...if they face each other. It wouldn't shock me if you see Moncton go on a very long winning streak and possibly catch the dogs 13 points behind with a game in hand drops it to 11 if they win the four matchups left they are 3. Don't think for a minute Moncton doesn't want to pull ahead and play PEI first round. If I had to pick between the Dogs or Wildcats to play in the first round it would be the dogs but that is still a rough ride. 3 games left between Cats and Dogs ... 2 wins Cats so far ... 2 SO and 1 OT win for Dogs so far. CB plays SJ 4 more times though including tonight (Go Eagles Go) ... and those games are just as important to us ... CB and Moncton need to beat SJ every chance they get to reel them in ... then we'll all fight for 1st in the final week when we all play each other.
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Post by grounddog on Jan 8, 2010 15:05:25 GMT -4
Steve you just do not want to have to meet CB in the playoffs then all your money goes to waste. Anytime the Dogs get a win against Moncton or CB it would be huge even though it should never happen. Both your teams are loaded and the money spent should guarantee your destiny.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 8, 2010 15:09:39 GMT -4
Steve you just do not want to have to meet CB in the playoffs then all your money goes to waste. Anytime the Dogs get a win against Moncton or CB it would be huge even though it should never happen. Both your teams are loaded and the money spent should guarantee your destiny. Please tell me you are being sarcastic. Money spent? SJ should NEVER beat Moncton or CB?
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Post by elementz on Jan 8, 2010 15:11:22 GMT -4
Of course he dosen't want his team to face CB, why would he when they have a chance to face a team like PEI if they manage to overpass SJ for 1st in the division. Sure a Mon/CB playoff series would be hella entertaining, but would you rather play a tough CB team for 6-7 games or play a soft PEI team for 4-5 games.
Moncton didn't spend any money to load up. No teams did.
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Post by Clubber Lang on Jan 8, 2010 15:11:55 GMT -4
Steve you just do not want to have to meet CB in the playoffs then all your money goes to waste. Anytime the Dogs get a win against Moncton or CB it would be huge even though it should never happen. Both your teams are loaded and the money spent should guarantee your destiny. Please tell me you are being sarcastic. Money spent? SJ should NEVER beat Moncton or CB? Just imagine if Moncton beats out the dogs for first and cape breton plays them and wins. Their fans will be saying why didn't we dump. Just a mess complete mess
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