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Post by iowzdahchiefs on Mar 30, 2010 9:41:58 GMT -4
I believe everything will depend on whether or not Mario is brought back or not. If he is there is a very real possibilty that he loses confidence from the players. There is so much negativeity around here about him that the players could easily quit on him. Having been a witness to it in Lewiston for three years it is a recipe for disaster. The other factors are if Cape Breton is serious about hosting the Memorial Cup then speculating that they are going to go get an OA on the cheap for next year seems a bit short sighted. With as many pieces as the Eagles will need for that EVERY move that is made will need to be made towards that build. Bringing in another OA for next season could be disruptive to that plan. The other factor that you are not factoring in is that Mangement will need to unload what little it has left in order to build that team for 11-12.
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Post by mikeb on Mar 30, 2010 10:23:21 GMT -4
Victo will surely see a big fall but they do have a number of young guys producing... I can see them and CB being fairly close. The other teams IMO look a bit ahead of CB. Val D'or looks very bad next year. Trading currency. Both those teams have OA players they can trade.
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Post by canbeer on Mar 30, 2010 11:19:41 GMT -4
Victo will surely see a big fall but they do have a number of young guys producing... I can see them and CB being fairly close. The other teams IMO look a bit ahead of CB. Val D'or looks very bad next year. Trading currency. Both those teams have OA players they can trade. You mean Victo and Val D'or?
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Post by canbeer on Mar 30, 2010 12:06:49 GMT -4
Of course you would because the odds of CB being last are slim. Just taking a quick glance at what teams are losing I'd say Val D'or is an early favorite for last. okay well why are you arguing mikeb's side then? i'll wager at least 3 teams finish below CB next season how's that? Not arguing any side just adding an opinion as to where I can see CB fitting within those teams. Bai-C is only losing their 20 year olds and them and Hali should improve. Moncton is losing a lot like CB but has more young assets to work with and it looks like Moncton could have better 20 year olds. Ryn should be ok defensively but scoring could be something that puts them near the basement. Victo is losing a ton too, they seem to have a number of 16-17 year olds who have had good seasons. Tough to say where teams like CB, Ryn, Victo, ValD will come to settle in the standings compared to each other next year. As for wagering at this point it's a bit silly... we're 5 months and two drafts away from camp opening let alone seeing how camp goes, what 20 year olds are returning and what direction teams choose. With the questionable decisions made in CB this year for all we know Mario will patch holes and keep CB ahead of those other teams but at the expense of the future. Lots can change.
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Post by bois on Mar 30, 2010 12:39:22 GMT -4
okay well why are you arguing mikeb's side then? i'll wager at least 3 teams finish below CB next season how's that? Not arguing any side just adding an opinion as to where I can see CB fitting within those teams. Bai-C is only losing their 20 year olds and them and Hali should improve. Moncton is losing a lot like CB but has more young assets to work with and it looks like Moncton could have better 20 year olds. Ryn should be ok defensively but scoring could be something that puts them near the basement. Victo is losing a ton too, they seem to have a number of 16-17 year olds who have had good seasons. Tough to say where teams like CB, Ryn, Victo, ValD will come to settle in the standings compared to each other next year. As for wagering at this point it's a bit silly... we're 5 months and two drafts away from camp opening let alone seeing how camp goes, what 20 year olds are returning and what direction teams choose. With the questionable decisions made in CB this year for all we know Mario will patch holes and keep CB ahead of those other teams but at the expense of the future. Lots can change. sure it's silly but as fans of Halifax, PEI , Bathurst and CB what else do we have to discuss right now? what young assets do Moncton have left? the Saulniers I suppose... maybe Kabanov if he returned Rouyn and Victo essentially lose all their scoring..... if McIsaac and Nestrasil and Levesque are all dealt as rumoured Victo have several 16 and 17 year olds contributing now? who? Hynes is the only one who contributed regularly that falls in that age range... Dube had a decent season but 12 goals is not what I consider contributing alot... Danault may take a huge step froward but will only be 17.. Maillet and Tanguay were good for 5 goals between them you're right that a great deal depends on who returns as overagers and if the teams decide to sell those overagers or not.. I just think Victo will be in far worse shape than CB will be and I think Rouyn could find themself down there as well Moncton probably will be better.... and sure Halifax and Baie Comeau will improve but both are a year away from taking real big steps forward... Lewy and maybe Bathurst should be the bottom teams that take giant steps this season
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Post by canucklehead on Mar 30, 2010 13:16:00 GMT -4
I know that there are already a few names that are rumoured to be moving around at the draft I'm wondering if anybody can throw some names out there for me ...
Olivier Roy > Lewiston Meilleur > ? Nestrasil > PEI MacTsaac > PEI Levesque > Bathurst
Was there some Moncton players thought to be on the move ... thought I heard Barberio's name at one point? ....
Any others someone could add to this?
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Post by elementz on Mar 30, 2010 13:25:40 GMT -4
I think the Moncton player you are thinking of is Jodoin...to Chicoutimi I believe.
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Post by bois on Mar 30, 2010 13:52:23 GMT -4
Jodoin
I can't see Barberio being back in the Q
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Post by Murph on Mar 30, 2010 14:03:17 GMT -4
I know that there are already a few names that are rumoured to be moving around at the draft I'm wondering if anybody can throw some names out there for me ... Olivier Roy > Lewiston Meilleur > ? Nestrasil > PEI MacTsaac > PEI Levesque > Bathurst Was there some Moncton players thought to be on the move ... thought I heard Barberio's name at one point? .... Any others someone could add to this? Jodoin to Chicoutimi Meilleur to Shawinigan Nic Deslauriers to Rimouski Kirkpatrick to PEI (though Despres has also been said) Losier to Bathurst not part of an already made deal, but supposidly Lambke is heading to Gatineau for likely Vincent Barnard.
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Post by bois on Mar 30, 2010 14:14:09 GMT -4
Champagne, Devos and Chouinard have all been rumoured to be going to Quebec.. not all 3 of them obviously.. one of the 3 lol
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Post by canucklehead on Mar 30, 2010 14:14:20 GMT -4
Stop getting PEI fans excited for nothing lol
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Post by bois on Mar 30, 2010 14:19:09 GMT -4
Morneau is supposed to be going to Gatineau as well...
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 30, 2010 14:24:50 GMT -4
Stop getting PEI fans excited for nothing lol Yeah I don't think SJ was that desperate for Cousineau. But worse trades have happened.
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Post by canbeer on Mar 30, 2010 14:32:40 GMT -4
Not arguing any side just adding an opinion as to where I can see CB fitting within those teams. Bai-C is only losing their 20 year olds and them and Hali should improve. Moncton is losing a lot like CB but has more young assets to work with and it looks like Moncton could have better 20 year olds. Ryn should be ok defensively but scoring could be something that puts them near the basement. Victo is losing a ton too, they seem to have a number of 16-17 year olds who have had good seasons. Tough to say where teams like CB, Ryn, Victo, ValD will come to settle in the standings compared to each other next year. As for wagering at this point it's a bit silly... we're 5 months and two drafts away from camp opening let alone seeing how camp goes, what 20 year olds are returning and what direction teams choose. With the questionable decisions made in CB this year for all we know Mario will patch holes and keep CB ahead of those other teams but at the expense of the future. Lots can change. sure it's silly but as fans of Halifax, PEI , Bathurst and CB what else do we have to discuss right now? what young assets do Moncton have left? the Saulniers I suppose... maybe Kabanov if he returned Rouyn and Victo essentially lose all their scoring..... if McIsaac and Nestrasil and Levesque are all dealt as rumoured Victo have several 16 and 17 year olds contributing now? who? Hynes is the only one who contributed regularly that falls in that age range... Dube had a decent season but 12 goals is not what I consider contributing alot... Danault may take a huge step froward but will only be 17.. Maillet and Tanguay were good for 5 goals between them you're right that a great deal depends on who returns as overagers and if the teams decide to sell those overagers or not.. I just think Victo will be in far worse shape than CB will be and I think Rouyn could find themself down there as well Moncton probably will be better.... and sure Halifax and Baie Comeau will improve but both are a year away from taking real big steps forward... Lewy and maybe Bathurst should be the bottom teams that take giant steps this season No issue with discussing it... we have to pass the time somehow... but at this point asking those who you disagree with if they want to place wagers? Seems early for that. Moncton traded a boat load but they had a lot of young assets. I think with Hrivik and the Saulniers and maybe 20 year olds Pettersson and Stevens they should be fine in putting together two decent lines and will have good grit in their depth with Trask, Daoust, Tomah, Roski, MacMillan... I think they still own 16 year olds Melindy and Leblanc. They have big losses on D but should be able to put a returning serviceable group in Gormley, MacDonald, Downe, maybe a 20 like Wall or Jodoin. I don't know if Owens may be in their plans but they always seem to find FA goalies, they could have 20 year olds to move, not sure what they have in picks. I agree on Victo and Ryn. Victo has lots of good 19 year olds this year and needs a good group of 20s to return to stay out of the basement. They'll have room for Euro's. Ryn should be solid on the back end and have a returning goalie but their scoring is a big, big question. CB has a goalie that's played maybe 4-5 games and he'll be playing behind a defense that after Ellis and Fournier doesn't have much more experience then him. Up front they maybe have 3 (?) top 6 forwards and that includes 20 year olds Horyl and MacDougall along with Hertzberg. Will Cuzner and Shaw be playing on the 2nd line? Big depth and quality ?s at every position and not loaded with picks or quality vets to use or trade. Sure they're probably not the worst off team but it looks like a tough rebuild. Bathurst and Lewiston could both take giant steps next year... if they can keep the puck out of the net. Both teams were porous this year and both teams are losing pieces off of the backend/nets. Both teams tough look like they have good scoring potential.
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Post by canbeer on Mar 30, 2010 14:35:40 GMT -4
I know that there are already a few names that are rumoured to be moving around at the draft I'm wondering if anybody can throw some names out there for me ... Olivier Roy > Lewiston Meilleur > ? Nestrasil > PEI MacTsaac > PEI Levesque > Bathurst Was there some Moncton players thought to be on the move ... thought I heard Barberio's name at one point? .... Any others someone could add to this? Mathieu to Drumm is one we've heard.
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