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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2010 6:33:45 GMT -4
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Post by mikeb on Mar 31, 2010 7:34:05 GMT -4
From reading that I get the feeling that Mario will be playing 5 or 6 20YO every game.
Mario sounds delusional.
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Post by caperguy on Mar 31, 2010 7:54:01 GMT -4
I don't have time to comment in detail now. All I'll say is.....
I agree with mikeb.....delusional
edit: ok, I couldn't help it....how the hell are we set on D with 2 guys who have barely any experience and a couple others who don't have much more? And why the hell would Holden come back to back up Veronneau when he left this year because he was backup?? And why....would we try to contend in 2011 when we won't know about 2012 host until after next year's trade deadline? His sentences and thought structure in his quotes are absurd and don't make sense, not only from a hockey perspective, but English, too. It's just a weird train of thought.
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Post by bois on Mar 31, 2010 8:42:16 GMT -4
if you read what he is quoted as saying..... he doesn't need many draft picks to ice his expected team for next year... I believe that is what he meant by saying he was set up on defense.... clearly they have targetted a Euro dman (which makes sense) and he is expecting to add a 19 year old by trade
and why wouldn't Holden come back? everyone just assumes he was cut but what if he wanted to play more? what if the entire plan all along was talk to Holden tell him to wait his turn get some solid experience as the go to guy on a very good junior A team and next year you are the number one here
that seems somewhat reasonable to me... i dunno
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Post by fansince95 on Mar 31, 2010 9:09:52 GMT -4
The man seems insane
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Post by sharrow on Mar 31, 2010 9:11:30 GMT -4
Reading between the lines in this article I would say that Mario has sold the Board that he was only three games away from going to the Memorial Cup and that he will be contending for the title again in the 2010/11 season and I would bet that he has a new 3 year, contract with a raise, some guy that Mario.
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Post by caperguy on Mar 31, 2010 9:14:55 GMT -4
But don't you get the sense (when Mario comes out and actually says it) that he thinks there's a possibility to be a contender? I think that's a bit amusing given the huge amount of talent we had this past year and were so inconsistent and didn't play the best against Moncton and got ousted early. Looking at who we have coming back and the lack of high picks available (and the looming possibility of hosting 2012 which we won't know until spring 2011) why would we try to 'go for it' this year?
Holden was interviewed on Eastlink during the playoffs and said he requested a trade because he wanted to be a #1. That didn't happen so he went back to Jr A and was a #1. How I read into Mario's words was as if Verenneau was going to be #1 with Holden 'adding experience'. If, in fact, Holden would be #1, then yes, I'm sure he'd come back in that role, but not as second fiddle.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Mar 31, 2010 9:20:05 GMT -4
"But if you think about it, if you went the other way you would have to trade Luke Adam. And do you think the people in the stands would appreciate that? That’s the thing."
^^^This is the stuff that makes you wonder how these guys have the jobs they do. Does he think the fans appreciate where the team is right now? Does he truly believe that because you have a good player on your team, you must go for it regardless of the competition?
I think the # of fans that would make a stink about trading Adam for some bluechip return would be extremely small, compared to the amount of people who felt making a run with this team and the holes that existed, let alone the amount of people angry right now.
Just bizarre to see GM/coaches talk like this, and worse, run a team with that thinking.
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Post by bois on Mar 31, 2010 9:34:34 GMT -4
do you think the CB board of governors cares about the 6-8 regular posters on Nestcape? or the 3500 fans who fill the rink each and every night?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 31, 2010 9:59:57 GMT -4
do you think the CB board of governors cares about the 6-8 regular posters on Nestcape? or the 3500 fans who fill the rink each and every night? You mean the 3500 who come out, regardless of how good/bad the team is? This drive to be mediocre is rather sad for a fan base who has proven to support their team through thick and thin. I could understand it from a Lew/Bat averaging 1400 people or something but why should we not be rewarded for being loyal rather then penalized because maybe we won't be loyal if the team trades Luke Adam of all players. I mean no disrespect to Luke, but why is his presence meaning more to CB fans then our past leaders? Nobody's arguing about how good he is, but his team was not that good and I bet you 99% of those 3500 would of taken a 3rd round appearance with Cully, Slaney and co with a hired gun rather then this debacle. Fact is they don't care what the "6 posters" here think or what the other 3494 in this rink think. They're out to not lose a buck, no matter how mediocre the team might be. That stance shows just how removed from its fan base this team is. A player who was NOT an Eagle 10 months ago is suddenly the player that's going to keep us all home if he's not here? |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 31, 2010 10:03:18 GMT -4
"But if you think about it, if you went the other way you would have to trade Luke Adam. And do you think the people in the stands would appreciate that? That’s the thing." ^^^This is the stuff that makes you wonder how these guys have the jobs they do. Does he think the fans appreciate where the team is right now? Does he truly believe that because you have a good player on your team, you must go for it regardless of the competition? I think the # of fans that would make a stink about trading Adam for some bluechip return would be extremely small, compared to the amount of people who felt making a run with this team and the holes that existed, let alone the amount of people angry right now. Just bizarre to see GM/coaches talk like this, and worse, run a team with that thinking. Exactly. Very frustrating as a fan to see this type of stance after 2004.....at least management took full responsibility for that. If you ask me he's blaming us, the fans, for this mess.....I mean we wouldn't let him trade Luke Adam.  |
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Post by bois on Mar 31, 2010 10:06:40 GMT -4
imagine a Board of Directors caring about the bottom line of a franchise... what a travesty indeed
i'm not going to argue over the decision to go for it this year or not and whether that made sense.. what i'm saying is that this is not a mediocre franchise .. this is one of the upper echelon franchises in the Q and one you should be proud of
you haven't been mediocre in 7 years.... you will be next year but guess what you would have been even if you sold this year instead of bought.... 1 mediocre year out of 8 is not bad .. not bad at all Jack
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Post by Deer on Mar 31, 2010 10:14:54 GMT -4
"But if you think about it, if you went the other way you would have to trade Luke Adam. And do you think the people in the stands would appreciate that? That’s the thing." It's a good thing Moncton didn't adopt that way of thinking. Then they'd never have traded Matt Marquardt to Baie-Comeau, for fear that people in the stands would be pissed. And they'd also never have gotten David Savard from the Drakkar in return, who was arguably the MVP of the playoff series we just saw. Adam showed up in one out of five playoff games - and when he did, it was too late. But hey, at least people in the stands weren't pissed in January.  |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 31, 2010 10:21:27 GMT -4
imagine a Board of Directors caring about the bottom line of a franchise... what a travesty indeed i'm not going to argue over the decision to go for it this year or not and whether that made sense.. what i'm saying is that this is not a mediocre franchise .. this is one of the upper echelon franchises in the Q and one you should be proud of you haven't been mediocre in 7 years.... you will be next year but guess what you would have been even if you sold this year instead of bought.... 1 mediocre year out of 8 is not bad .. not bad at all Jack 1 mediocre year out of 8? You've been at the bottom so long you even forget what mediocre is. 2004 was mediocre. We had championship expectations and won 1 playoff game 2005 was mediocre. 2006 was a bit more then mediocre....we got to beat an expansion team in the playoffs. 07 was good.....but again championship expectations and fall short. 08 was great. 09 was good....again all about expectations....which we fell short of. This year....mediocre again.....championship potential and gone after 1 win. Just because there's never been an expectation in PEI doesn't mean everything is all rosy because of a bunch of regular season wins....it's all about expectations and we've fallen short of them yet again and will be rewarding failure. This is NOT an upper echelon franchise and won't be until there's at least something more then an 03-04 division title hanging in our rink. Oh, and I have no problem with them worrying about their bottom line but I do have a problem when it takes precedent over common sense and the good of the organization. I've yet to see anyone even try to defend what Mario did as the right decision except for the man himself. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 31, 2010 10:23:35 GMT -4
"But if you think about it, if you went the other way you would have to trade Luke Adam. And do you think the people in the stands would appreciate that? That’s the thing." It's a good thing Moncton didn't adopt that way of thinking. Then they'd never have traded Matt Marquardt to Baie-Comeau, for fear that people in the stands would be pissed. And they'd also never have gotten David Savard from the Drakkar in return, who was arguably the MVP of the playoff series we just saw. Adam showed up in one out of five playoff games - and when he did, it was too late. But hey, at least people in the stands weren't pissed in January. Don't forget the help he had from Barberio and Brannon |
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