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Post by sharrow on Apr 6, 2010 13:32:11 GMT -4
In our history we have only drafted two Real Goalies, Giguere (Expansion Draft) & LeClaire and if Tremblay is the best thats who we should get, we always took also rans in the Patenaude era and ended up with a bunch of duds, PLEASE we (Moose Fans) deserve the best in this most important position.
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Post by defresh101 on Apr 6, 2010 13:50:14 GMT -4
In our history we have only drafted two Real Goalies, Giguere (Expansion Draft) & LeClaire and if Tremblay is the best thats who we should get, we always took also rans in the Patenaude era and ended up with a bunch of duds, PLEASE we (Moose Fans) deserve the best in this most important position. Depends what you discribe as good. If you mean that they are now playing in the NHL than yeah your right. Which to me that can be your only way of coming up with that statement. Or if you mean where thay were picked. Giguere was good....Leclair ummmm well ok I guess but was not trusted he could hold the #1 spot thats why we traded him.. Yetman seemed to do the job for us. Churchhill did ok for awhile just as good as Leclair. Volkov did a good job. Boutin start ok but had issues. We have had afew good picks but nothing stellar.
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Post by falcon on Apr 6, 2010 14:16:08 GMT -4
In our history we have only drafted two Real Goalies, Giguere (Expansion Draft) & LeClaire and if Tremblay is the best thats who we should get, we always took also rans in the Patenaude era and ended up with a bunch of duds, PLEASE we (Moose Fans) deserve the best in this most important position. Can't see the Moose picking a goalie before the 25th or 28th pick, unless they manage to acquire an extra earlier pick. The needs for scoring is too great.
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Post by Qfan69 on Apr 6, 2010 14:36:12 GMT -4
In our history we have only drafted two Real Goalies, Giguere (Expansion Draft) & LeClaire and if Tremblay is the best thats who we should get, we always took also rans in the Patenaude era and ended up with a bunch of duds, PLEASE we (Moose Fans) deserve the best in this most important position. Can't see the Moose picking a goalie before the 25th or 28th pick, unless they manage to acquire an extra earlier pick. The needs for scoring is too great. I got a feeling your going to see them grab another 1st rounder or an early 2nd. They have a lot of spare parts that can help other teams more then us. The moose are sitting pretty I think this draft I feel they can both buy and sell while still making some great picks. I would love to see Cam get a 20 year old forward that can Put up better numbers then what we have.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 6, 2010 14:48:49 GMT -4
In our history we have only drafted two Real Goalies, Giguere (Expansion Draft) & LeClaire and if Tremblay is the best thats who we should get, we always took also rans in the Patenaude era and ended up with a bunch of duds, PLEASE we (Moose Fans) deserve the best in this most important position. Didn't we pick Giguere off of the Laval team that was being disbanded the year the Mooseheads started.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 6, 2010 14:52:11 GMT -4
Can't see the Moose picking a goalie before the 25th or 28th pick, unless they manage to acquire an extra earlier pick. The needs for scoring is too great. I got a feeling your going to see them grab another 1st rounder or an early 2nd. They have a lot of spare parts that can help other teams more then us. The moose are sitting pretty I think this draft I feel they can both buy and sell while still making some great picks. I would love to see Cam get a 20 year old forward that can Put up better numbers then what we have. You won't get any 1sts or early 2nds for spare parts. Maybe a 4th or 5th at best.
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Post by lalalaprise on Apr 6, 2010 14:52:17 GMT -4
In our history we have only drafted two Real Goalies, Giguere (Expansion Draft) & LeClaire and if Tremblay is the best thats who we should get, we always took also rans in the Patenaude era and ended up with a bunch of duds, PLEASE we (Moose Fans) deserve the best in this most important position. Didn't we pick Giguere off of the Laval team that was being disbanded the year the Mooseheads started. Yeah he was picked in the dispersal draft...
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 6, 2010 14:52:43 GMT -4
In our history we have only drafted two Real Goalies, Giguere (Expansion Draft) & LeClaire and if Tremblay is the best thats who we should get, we always took also rans in the Patenaude era and ended up with a bunch of duds, PLEASE we (Moose Fans) deserve the best in this most important position. Didn't we pick Giguere off of the Laval team that was being disbanded the year the Mooseheads started. Yup from Verdun College Francais that disbanded.
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Post by Qfan69 on Apr 6, 2010 15:05:48 GMT -4
I got a feeling your going to see them grab another 1st rounder or an early 2nd. They have a lot of spare parts that can help other teams more then us. The moose are sitting pretty I think this draft I feel they can both buy and sell while still making some great picks. I would love to see Cam get a 20 year old forward that can Put up better numbers then what we have. You won't get any 1sts or early 2nds for spare parts. Maybe a 4th or 5th at best. That was poorly word sorry. I was thinking one of the two goalies or an Amyott might be traded for a higher pick. To me those players are spare parts we have Paul which could sever just as good as an over ager on the blue line, and we don't need both goalies. And we could throw some other bodies in a deal such as Lewis or even just swap 2nds. Any of them other then 19 that is.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 6, 2010 15:09:58 GMT -4
You won't get any 1sts or early 2nds for spare parts. Maybe a 4th or 5th at best. That was poorly word sorry. I was thinking one of the two goalies or an Amyott might be traded for a higher pick. To me those players are spare parts we have Paul which could sever just as good as an over ager on the blue line, and we don't need both goalies. And we could throw some other bodies in a deal such as Lewis or even just swap 2nds. Any of them other then 19 that is. You may be able to move from early 2nd to late 1st by including another pick or Amyot/goalie.
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Post by Smiley on Apr 6, 2010 15:58:34 GMT -4
In our history we have only drafted two Real Goalies, Giguere (Expansion Draft) & LeClaire and if Tremblay is the best thats who we should get, we always took also rans in the Patenaude era and ended up with a bunch of duds, PLEASE we (Moose Fans) deserve the best in this most important position. So you include Giguere but not Volkov? Volkov was drafted in the Euro draft and was a good goalie for the Moose. I was trying to look at past drafts but 2000 - 2003 on the Q site gives me a spyware warning so I decided against looking there. I know that we drafted MacDonald and he is an NHL / AHL player. Yetman ended up stealing the job from a 20 yr old and played well for the Moose. He wasn't elite but he was still good (not a dud). Churchill wasn't a dud either. So that's another 4 goalies drafted. On top of that during the Patenaude they didn't need to draft a lot of goalies. He was able to acquire Dallaire (2 yrs), Lavallee (1 yr) and Duchesne (3 yrs)...all three ended up being elite goalies with the Moose. Patenaude was GM for 9 - 10 years. 6 of those years he had an elite goalie (acquired through trades). Yetman was a goalie for 2 years, and Churchill was a starting goalie for 2 years. So in Patenaude's time he had a good goalie for the full duration. 6 of the years he acquired an elite goalie through trades which diminished the need to use a high draft pick on a goalie, which is good because the high draft picks were scarce...but that's another issue. But I don't think as Moose fans we can't really complain that we have only had duds for goalies. We actually were pretty rich in our goalies (except the 2000 draft - but that was b4 Patenaude and a complete mess of a draft - Todd Veary!) ;D
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Post by Qfan69 on Apr 7, 2010 12:32:28 GMT -4
I was just looking at the teams roster to see what we have and what spots might be open for the multiple picks we have. So here's the list of players that are currently on the team and barring trade should be here for training camp.
D. Garrett Clarke D. Sawyer Hannay D. Konrad Abeltshauser D. Stephan Gillard D. Trey Lewis D. Jamie Bishop
F. Travis Randell F. Carl Gelinas F. Gabriel Desjardins F. Jessyko Bernard F. Alex Lemieux F. Bradley MacDonald F. Brent Andrews F. Matthew Boudreau
G. Mathieu Corbeil
Now the 20s I left for there own list, because well only 3 of them can be on the team.
D. Pascal Amyot D. Paul Dimitruk F. Charles Bety F. Gerrad Grant G. Peter Delmas
Looking at that knowing we have a high Euro a 2nd over all pick and 4 other pick in the next 2 rounds I think it would be smart to see what can be had for 2 of the seconds and maybe the 3rd plus a player or two. Thoughts?
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Post by sharrow on Apr 7, 2010 16:03:16 GMT -4
The most important part of any team is the goalie and I don't see us waiting till late in the 2nd round to pick one however I do see us trading some assets plus maybe even a 2011 pick to acquire another early pick for that goalie. Also I see us trying to acquire a '92' skilled forward to play on our top two lines. The three 20's that start the season i think will be Delmas, Grant and Aymot and I expect most of them will be traded at mid season, leaving Bety, Knotek, Dimitruk for sale. This is my opinion.
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Post by Qfan69 on Apr 10, 2010 8:54:00 GMT -4
I have two contract questions. 1 any word on Delmas and COL? Second I know it wont be hard to get a deal done but isn't Cam's contract up? I thought him and Marcel signed 2 year deal and marcel only lasted half a season and then Cam took over his job. So has Cam signed a new contract that I might have just missed?
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Post by Fred The Moose on Apr 11, 2010 6:41:29 GMT -4
First Question Do we think Peter will be back and will we kep him until December or all season... Second Question which defenceman would you keep... Third question who will be the third 20 year old.... Most important Who out of 20's can give us a really good trade...
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