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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2010 13:18:18 GMT -4
I imagine I'll get slammed for saying this but honestly I don't get the speculation on here about trading this pick and that pick for either players who would only be here one year (like Beaton) or players who have been serious underachievers ( like Duffy). IMO the Moose need one more year of actually keeping their high picks ( like all we have in the top 37) to continue the foundation building. At the 2011 draft I can see trading some picks off perhaps but for now the last thing we need is to go down the Patenaude route and start pissing picks away.
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Post by Fred The Moose on Apr 15, 2010 15:37:59 GMT -4
I think if we trade any thing it should be bodies not picks there are afew that teams want that we can still get good value for them too. Keep all our picks this year and even next year too..NO TRADING PICKS...
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Post by sharrow on Apr 15, 2010 16:24:02 GMT -4
HELLO, where do you get the idea that the Moose is trading picks for a 20 yr old and an 18 yr old project, I think we have the following who are probably not in our plans (ie) Amyot or Dimitruk, Bety, Bernard, Knotek, Corbeil or Delmas and possibly Clarke. The article on the Mooseheads site states that some teams are calling Russell to see what it would take for them to establish a trade with him, these are hardly picks, rather extra pieces that are available, so bring it on. GO-MOOSE-GO
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2010 16:33:09 GMT -4
HELLO, where do you get the idea that the Moose is trading picks for a 20 yr old and an 18 yr old project, I think we have the following who are probably not in our plans (ie) Amyot or Dimitruk, Bety, Bernard, Knotek, Corbeil or Delmas and possibly Clarke. The article on the Mooseheads site states that some teams are calling Russell to see what it would take for them to establish a trade with him, these are hardly picks, rather extra pieces that are available, so bring it on. GO-MOOSE-GO I was responding to poster speculation about possibly trading picks for players not to anything that has been written in the Herald or Metro News.
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Post by sharrow on Apr 15, 2010 17:33:41 GMT -4
Poster speculation ?? You have it from the horses mouth (Russell) he is interested in moving some extra players and has publicly stated that the organization is looking to move down possibily to have two 1st round picks in the upcoming June Draft.
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Post by howitzer on Apr 15, 2010 17:52:46 GMT -4
Poster speculation ?? You have it from the horses mouth (Russell) he is interested in moving some extra players and has publicly stated that the organization is looking to move down possibily to have two 1st round picks in the upcoming June Draft. Post a link to where Russell says he's "interested in moving some extra players" and where he says he wants to move down in the draft. If my memory serves me correctly he talked how he's fielding calls from other GMs about some of our players, and that it's a nice change to have teams interested on our players. That's a bit different then what your saying he said. And with the draft, all I remember was him talking about having options, and moving down being one of those options. I don't think he ever stated for the record he wants to "move down in the draft". Again, completely different then from what you're saying he said. If I'm wrong, then I'd like to read the articles where he said all this stuff. I could have missed it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2010 17:57:52 GMT -4
Poster speculation ?? You have it from the horses mouth (Russell) he is interested in moving some extra players and has publicly stated that the organization is looking to move down possibily to have two 1st round picks in the upcoming June Draft. One of these days could you please read other poster's comments correctly? I am talking about trading picks for players, not players for picks. That is in my comment at the TOP OF THIS PAGE just to try and make it easier for you to follow.
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Post by sharrow on Apr 15, 2010 22:33:54 GMT -4
Your memory is letting you down, he states that other teams are calling about his d-men and goalies this two areas represent 66% of our total 20 yr olds are these not extras and on at least a couple of occasions Russell has stated that he would like to move down in this June's draft and if you are sincerely interested in what articles I suggest you do some research and find it or call the Metro or Chronicle. As for the poster who has the notion that we are going to give up top picks to acquire Duffy or Beaton get over it (its not going to happen) we have sufficient extras to get er done.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2010 23:02:26 GMT -4
Your memory is letting you down, he states that other teams are calling about his d-men and goalies this two areas represent 66% of our total 20 yr olds are these not extras and on at least a couple of occasions Russell has stated that he would like to move down in this June's draft and if you are sincerely interested in what articles I suggest you do some research and find it or call the Metro or Chronicle. As for the poster who has the notion that we are going to give up top picks to acquire Duffy or Beaton get over it (its not going to happen) we have sufficient extras to get er done. No, your lack of comprehension is letting you down but that shouldn't come as a surprise considering some of the sharp comments you have come up with in the past.
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Post by lalalaprise on Apr 15, 2010 23:08:53 GMT -4
Your memory is letting you down, he states that other teams are calling about his d-men and goalies this two areas represent 66% of our total 20 yr olds are these not extras and on at least a couple of occasions Russell has stated that he would like to move down in this June's draft and if you are sincerely interested in what articles I suggest you do some research and find it or call the Metro or Chronicle. As for the poster who has the notion that we are going to give up top picks to acquire Duffy or Beaton get over it (its not going to happen) we have sufficient extras to get er done. You're taking a large leap...Russell said teams are CALLING about his players...he didnt say he is shopping them, or that any trades are imminent like you suggest. One can ASSUME he is looking to deal some guys for picks, but he didnt come out and say it. You are connecting the dots and making assumptions and than wondering why others arent seeing what youre seeing...
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Post by Fred The Moose on Apr 16, 2010 6:22:33 GMT -4
Great to see everyone getting hot over the June Draft & Trade period..Does anyone know that Saint John and Moncton are still playing and open their series tonight ......HA!HA!
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Post by oilers4ever on Apr 16, 2010 7:23:17 GMT -4
Your memory is letting you down, he states that other teams are calling about his d-men and goalies this two areas represent 66% of our total 20 yr olds are these not extras and on at least a couple of occasions Russell has stated that he would like to move down in this June's draft and if you are sincerely interested in what articles I suggest you do some research and find it or call the Metro or Chronicle. As for the poster who has the notion that we are going to give up top picks to acquire Duffy or Beaton get over it (its not going to happen) we have sufficient extras to get er done. You're taking a large leap...Russell said teams are CALLING about his players...he didnt say he is shopping them, or that any trades are imminent like you suggest. One can ASSUME he is looking to deal some guys for picks, but he didnt come out and say it. You are connecting the dots and making assumptions and than wondering why others arent seeing what youre seeing... I have it on good authority that they are shopping Clarke. Apparently he has worn out is welcome in Halifax ;D
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Post by sharrow on Apr 16, 2010 10:01:56 GMT -4
I don't think it a large leap that when you have 6 20 yr olds to suggest that other teams are calling about your spare parts (which has to be at least three of them) also it is well documented that Clarke maybe moved and of course you are right when you say I'm attempting to connect the dots this has to be the case due to the fact that no G/M is going to publicly state who he is going to pick or trade for prior to the event, you must read between the lines or connect the dots and in this case it appears to be easy to do. Other teams are seeking either Corbeil or Delmas, Dimitruk or Amyot, Bety, Knotek, (it is wildly accepted that Grant will be a Moose overager) Clarke is probably creating a lot of interest from some teams. Really its elementary not complicated at all.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 16, 2010 15:21:30 GMT -4
I don't think it a large leap that when you have 6 20 yr olds to suggest that other teams are calling about your spare parts (which has to be at least three of them) also it is well documented that Clarke maybe moved and of course you are right when you say I'm attempting to connect the dots this has to be the case due to the fact that no G/M is going to publicly state who he is going to pick or trade for prior to the event, you must read between the lines or connect the dots and in this case it appears to be easy to do. Other teams are seeking either Corbeil or Delmas, Dimitruk or Amyot, Bety, Knotek, (it is wildly accepted that Grant will be a Moose overager) Clarke is probably creating a lot of interest from some teams. Really its elementary not complicated at all. I can't imagine the other teams are lining up to fight over extra overagers from a team that finished dead last in the league by a large margin ... obviously the group of 19 year olds you had last year weren't very good ... I am not saying you won't be able to deal one of your extra vets, but I can't see the return being very great ... I would expect any team showing interest is probably kicking the tires as a plan B type scenario so they know what the Moose are looking for should they either lose out on the guys they are really targetting, or should the price be prohibitive.
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Post by sharrow on Apr 16, 2010 16:03:36 GMT -4
Good reply Jimmy, who said there was going to be a high return. What was said by Russell was that there are some teams making calls to see or test the value much the same as every trade goes, to quote LaLa connect the dots.
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