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Post by Jacques Strap on Sept 23, 2014 11:00:43 GMT -4
He's actually out 3-4 weeks with a broken thumb. I bet it was Erne. Well, that is not going to help his chances. If they can't evaluate him properly and other guys trying out are passing him. Do u think this will hinder his chances?
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Post by mooseinfo on Sept 23, 2014 11:01:20 GMT -4
doesn't make sense why Tampa would not keep him up with the big club. Look at his former linemate Nathan MacKinnon. Can't tell me Drouin was that far behind Nathan to keep him back 2 years. The question is, how will he stand up to the rigors of the NHL game. Do they kick in a year of his contract and then have him out on a reg basis playing against muscle.
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Post by Joe Rogan on Sept 23, 2014 11:19:35 GMT -4
This won't sway his chances of being sent back all that much. They will wait until he is fully healed and give him the 9 game look and make their decision then, which will more than likely be to keep him in Tampa.
If it was a concussion or something else that kept him from maintaining his conditioning, then it would have a bigger impact on his chances because he would need time to get back in shape, and then time to get his hand-eye/timing back. But with a thumb injury he will be able to maintain his - by all accounts very impressive - level of fitness and conditioning. Sounds like he really dedicated himself and worked like a savage this offseason to get into top shape.
I just can't see Tampa sending him back again. They will roll the dice that he can contribute in their top 6 to avoid destroying his drive and motivation to be an effective NHL'er. He's still only 19 but I think they would be risking long-term psychological damage to send him back to junior for another year.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Sept 23, 2014 11:25:27 GMT -4
This won't sway his chances of being sent back all that much. They will wait until he is fully healed and give him the 9 game look and make their decision then, which will more than likely be to keep him in Tampa. If it was a concussion or something else that kept him from maintaining his conditioning, then it would have a bigger impact on his chances because he would need time to get back in shape, and then time to get his hand-eye/timing back. But with a thumb injury he will be able to maintain his - by all accounts very impressive - level of fitness and conditioning. Sounds like he really dedicated himself and worked like a savage this offseason to get into top shape. I just can't see Tampa sending him back again. They will roll the dice that he can contribute in their top 6 to avoid destroying his drive and motivation to be an effective NHL'er. He's still only 19 but I think they would be risking long-term psychological damage to send him back to junior for another year. I don't know. Giroux hurt his finger golfing last off season and it took him till after Christmas to get going, and he has been playing how long in the NHL? I guess it is hard to compare injuries, but I can't see this helping his chances.
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Post by Reesor on Sept 23, 2014 11:26:02 GMT -4
He's actually out 3-4 weeks with a broken thumb. I bet it was Erne. Well, that is not going to help his chances. If they can't evaluate him properly and other guys trying out are passing him. Do u think this will hinder his chances? He'll still get his 9-game tryout. The only way it would hurt his chances is if they bring him back too soon and he can't deke out the world with a broken thumb.
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Post by Porkchop on Sept 23, 2014 11:48:15 GMT -4
Well, that is not going to help his chances. If they can't evaluate him properly and other guys trying out are passing him. Do u think this will hinder his chances? He'll still get his 9-game tryout. The only way it would hurt his chances is if they bring him back too soon and he can't deke out the world with a broken thumb. This might actually help his chances......if he can't deke out the world, he will have to use his linemates more...His only knock against him in Jr, was trying to do too much sometimes, especially as last man back....that won't work as well in the NHL, but I'm sure they are working on that already. I doubt we ever see him in Jr again.......look forward to watching him develop into a top NHL player, now that he's not beating up on my team.
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Post by Critical Eye on Sept 23, 2014 18:23:29 GMT -4
So Drouin will be out for the first 4 to 7 games, then another 7 games or so before he gets back into playing shape (total =~ 20% of the season). And all that is just to get him semi-close to the point everyone else is at on the team.... The question will probably come to finances - is it worth paying $1,000,000 for a 3/4 line slot with a player that is better than that. I'm guessing the decision will depend on Tampa's record out of the starting gate this year. If there's existing success and chemistry we will see him back in Halifax....
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Post by guru on Sept 23, 2014 22:07:51 GMT -4
So Drouin will be out for the first 4 to 7 games, then another 7 games or so before he gets back into playing shape (total =~ 20% of the season). And all that is just to get him semi-close to the point everyone else is at on the team.... The question will probably come to finances - is it worth paying $1,000,000 for a 3/4 line slot with a player that is better than that. I'm guessing the decision will depend on Tampa's record out of the starting gate this year. If there's existing success and chemistry we will see him back in Halifax.... No chance.
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Post by statsman18 on Sept 24, 2014 8:02:04 GMT -4
So Drouin will be out for the first 4 to 7 games, then another 7 games or so before he gets back into playing shape (total =~ 20% of the season). And all that is just to get him semi-close to the point everyone else is at on the team.... The question will probably come to finances - is it worth paying $1,000,000 for a 3/4 line slot with a player that is better than that. I'm guessing the decision will depend on Tampa's record out of the starting gate this year. If there's existing success and chemistry we will see him back in Halifax.... No chance. I think it's a little hard to say not a chance. I think before this happened the door was closed locked and thrown away the key. With the broken hand I think they found the key and put it in the door. They might wait to turn that key and unlock it yet but the 0% might have gone to a 1 to 5% chance. A lot of thought will now go into this for sure. They have a young team and money wise could play into this if this screws his play. We all know how good he is and what he's capable of doing, but T Bays stand point he's 3 years away off a big pay day. They had 2 guys that were the 2 runner ups for the Calder. If they progress they are in line for a good pay day in the next couple of years too. If he's slow out of the gate then they might think business wise we send him back we get to spread out the bridge contract talks. What it all comes down to is how he plays. If he is the Drouin that we all know he can be then he's with the lighting. If this hinders his play at all then we see him back in the Q. It really sucks though because I already had his name carved in the Calder for this year. I hope this doesn't change that. Although it would be pretty sweet to see him and McDavid fight it out next year for it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 11:03:51 GMT -4
He won't be back. He is touted as the number one candidate for the Calder Trophy, 50 plus points and a spot on Tampas top line. Injuries happen...they are not going to send down one of the key pieces of their franchise back to junior to save a year of his contract. He is only missing a few weeks not months.
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Post by howitzer on Sept 24, 2014 11:09:01 GMT -4
He's not coming back. Pointless discussion imo.
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Post by bartmoosefan on Sept 24, 2014 11:29:22 GMT -4
Every day I read all of these comments about people that are hockey experts and don't really actually know much about the game. Jonathon Drouin is way to small for the NHL right now. He may very well play there and dominate in the future, but only weighing 185 LBS he is quite small. As a season ticket holder I have been watching him play since he first came to Halifax he has all the skill in the world when it comes to his hands. He may be able to take hits from Q players who are still kids but take the jump to the show and he may not fare out as well.
He is expected to be a top six forward and play with Stamkos. do you think that he can really with stand the entire gruling NHL season and not get hurt " NOT A CHANCE". For him to play beside Stamkos he would need to play his mins. Is he ready for 25-30 min games? NOPE. He shut down last season in the playoffs because he was tired. Plus Tampa should have a good squad and he would half to play in the playoffs as well. CALDER NOPE "cause he's going to get hurt. TIME TO GET REAL ABOUT THE SITUATION.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 11:38:52 GMT -4
Every day I read all of these comments about people that are hockey experts and don't really actually know much about the game. Jonathon Drouin is way to small for the NHL right now. He may very well play there and dominate in the future, but only weighing 185 LBS he is quite small. As a season ticket holder I have been watching him play since he first came to Halifax he has all the skill in the world when it comes to his hands. He may be able to take hits from Q players who are still kids but take the jump to the show and he may not fare out as well. He is expected to be a top six forward and play with Stamkos. do you think that he can really with stand the entire gruling NHL season and not get hurt " NOT A CHANCE". For him to play beside Stamkos he would need to play his mins. Is he ready for 25-30 min games? NOPE. He shut down last season in the playoffs because he was tired. Plus Tampa should have a good squad and he would half to play in the playoffs as well. CALDER NOPE "cause he's going to get hurt. TIME TO GET REAL ABOUT THE SITUATION. What a great example of a post by someone who doesn't know much about the game....
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Sept 24, 2014 11:44:06 GMT -4
Drouin is 186lbs and Stamkos is 190lbs. Is that really that much of a difference to make an impact?
Hell Huberdeau is around the same and it hasn't hindered him in the NHL.
Plenty of players 185lbs or less have handed it just fine.
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 24, 2014 11:48:27 GMT -4
Last year he only played at half speed and was disinterested most of the year ... he needs to be at the next level now. Coming back to the Q would be a waste of development time.
Where he signed 2 yrs ago ... and went back to the Q ... doesn't his contract automatically kick in this year no matter where he plays ? Or is that a rule under the old CBA that they axed ? ..
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