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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Apr 30, 2014 10:48:40 GMT -4
Ok now that that's over let's start the "reload". There was a long stretch of the season I thought Drouin was looking at another year here. But after the world Jr's it seemed like he bought in and realized he was here so let's win. These playoffs prove that. But if some carry was happens and he gets sent back I don't think he gets the chance to ware a moose sweater a gain. Cam needs to cash that check fast. If he is sent back it is likely he can't be traded to Christmas anyway because of the trade window will be closed. So if he is returned (unlikely) there is a strong chance he plays for the Moose again.
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 30, 2014 11:07:04 GMT -4
Ok now that that's over let's start the "reload". There was a long stretch of the season I thought Drouin was looking at another year here. But after the world Jr's it seemed like he bought in and realized he was here so let's win. These playoffs prove that. But if some carry was happens and he gets sent back I don't think he gets the chance to ware a moose sweater a gain. Cam needs to cash that check fast. If he is sent back it is likely he can't be traded to Christmas anyway because of the trade window will be closed. So if he is returned (unlikely) there is a strong chance he plays for the Moose again. Oh I know that but, Chris if you were here and see how this league works first hand you would know that certain teams get there way and rules are bent for them. Epically the team that shares the leagues name. Trust me I know the rules and knew what I said I also know who is hosting the Mem.
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Post by Critical Eye on Apr 30, 2014 11:59:07 GMT -4
If he is sent back it is likely he can't be traded to Christmas anyway because of the trade window will be closed. So if he is returned (unlikely) there is a strong chance he plays for the Moose again. Oh I know that but, Chris if you were here and see how this league works first hand you would know that certain teams get there way and rules are bent for them. Epically the team that shares the leagues name. Trust me I know the rules and knew what I said I also know who is hosting the Mem. WTF are you talking about? Your post makes negative sense. What teams, what rules?
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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 30, 2014 12:15:50 GMT -4
Some random guy called into John Moore after the game and said Fucale was on his way to Quebec for two 1st's and two 2nd's. Not sure where people hear this stuff or just pull it out of their arse.
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 30, 2014 12:27:08 GMT -4
Some random guy called into John Moore after the game and said Fucale was on his way to Quebec for two 1st's and two 2nd's. Not sure where people hear this stuff or just pull it out of their arse. There was a rumour thrown out on the Sea dogs borad saying Auger and Echiel were heading to Quebec too.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Apr 30, 2014 12:28:53 GMT -4
There's a good chance that Brassard would be back there anyway.
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Post by Joe Rogan on Apr 30, 2014 13:55:13 GMT -4
They would probably prefer to not use up a 20 year old spot on a goaltender, which is where Fucale comes into play. No chance they trade for Auger if Brassard is in the picture. Looking at next years team, it doesn't look too bad. Ehlers - Gadoury - Ryan Meier - D Moynihan - Fortier Shewfelt - Leblanc - Falkenham C Moynihan - Watt - Vuic Murphy - Hardie Lovell - Jacques Fitzgerald - Ford Taillefer Fucale It's going to be tough for any 2014 draftees to crack this lineup. Cam may want to look at moving some 2014 picks for 2015 ones if he can move up by doing so. Although depending on how the season goes, there could be some vets moved at xmas so some spots may open up then if we decide to be sellers in a Memorial Cup year for the Q. You'd have to think Fucale, Gadoury and Murphy will be assets contenders will be asking about.
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Post by Angry Pirate on Apr 30, 2014 14:02:09 GMT -4
I really think what the Moose do next year revolves around Fucale. If Cam can land a decent 1st round pick this draft and get another Franchise 16 y/o goalie than I can easily see the Moose moving Weegar and Gadoury to help us rebuild, and keep 2 lifelong Mooseheads in Ryan and Ciampini along with Hardie to round out our 20's.
Looking forward a year, I can see D. Moynihan, Murphy, and Falkenham being the 20's, so if the team goes the rebuild route, watch for Lovell and Leblanc to be shoped as 19 y/o's to maximize their value.
Even if we go the rebuild route, The Moose's lineup coule be:
Ehlers - Ryan - Ciampini Fortier - Falkenham - Meier Moynihan - Moynihan - Shewfelt Insert 4th line here...
Murphy - Jacques Hardie - Fitzgerald Ford - ...
It's certainly not the most awe inspiring line-up, but it should make the playoffs. Certainly doesn't look like some of the Junior B squads we saw under Patenaude. And this doesn't even speculate on the quality of 16/17 year old players we'd recieve back in any trades. It's certainly not the end of the world here.
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Post by Citris on Apr 30, 2014 17:37:06 GMT -4
I really think what the Moose do next year revolves around Fucale. If Cam can land a decent 1st round pick this draft and get another Franchise 16 y/o goalie than I can easily see the Moose moving Weegar and Gadoury to help us rebuild, and keep 2 lifelong Mooseheads in Ryan and Ciampini along with Hardie to round out our 20's. Looking forward a year, I can see D. Moynihan, Murphy, and Falkenham being the 20's, so if the team goes the rebuild route, watch for Lovell and Leblanc to be shoped as 19 y/o's to maximize their value. Even if we go the rebuild route, The Moose's lineup coule be: Ehlers - Ryan - Ciampini Fortier - Falkenham - Meier Moynihan - Moynihan - Shewfelt Insert 4th line here... Murphy - Jacques Hardie - Fitzgerald Ford - ... It's certainly not the most awe inspiring line-up, but it should make the playoffs. Certainly doesn't look like some of the Junior B squads we saw under Patenaude. And this doesn't even speculate on the quality of 16/17 year old players we'd recieve back in any trades. It's certainly not the end of the world here. I don't think trading Gadoury is even an option. Moose committed to him next season as well. As for Jaques, the fact that he didn't get in the lineup at all for the last 2 rounds, I'm not sure hes a sure shot to make this team. I think he may have been a stopgap for some of the younger guys to develop in major midget.
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Post by guru on Apr 30, 2014 20:34:21 GMT -4
I like Cam's approach, only making 1-2 additions at the trade deadline(s). If you don't have most of your team set by training camp, then you weren't prepared.
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Post by statsman18 on May 1, 2014 8:32:03 GMT -4
I really think what the Moose do next year revolves around Fucale. If Cam can land a decent 1st round pick this draft and get another Franchise 16 y/o goalie than I can easily see the Moose moving Weegar and Gadoury to help us rebuild, and keep 2 lifelong Mooseheads in Ryan and Ciampini along with Hardie to round out our 20's. Looking forward a year, I can see D. Moynihan, Murphy, and Falkenham being the 20's, so if the team goes the rebuild route, watch for Lovell and Leblanc to be shoped as 19 y/o's to maximize their value. Even if we go the rebuild route, The Moose's lineup coule be: Ehlers - Ryan - Ciampini Fortier - Falkenham - Meier Moynihan - Moynihan - Shewfelt Insert 4th line here... Murphy - Jacques Hardie - Fitzgerald Ford - ... It's certainly not the most awe inspiring line-up, but it should make the playoffs. Certainly doesn't look like some of the Junior B squads we saw under Patenaude. And this doesn't even speculate on the quality of 16/17 year old players we'd recieve back in any trades. It's certainly not the end of the world here. You have Jacque on your top pair? Come on really now. Also what value does Leblanc have? He played one game in all the playoffs. Lovell I don't think has a lot of value either. He was here last year and is the 6th defensemen on this team that barley ever seen the ice. I think one of Ryan or Caimpini get traded at the draft. I really like the way Caimpini played in the playoffs. But Like Someone else said Gadoury is a lock along with Hardie. I think Hardie gets the C next year too. I think the A's will go to Falkinham, Ehlers and whatever one stays from Ryan or Caimpini. I thought Caimpini played really well with Fortier and Moynihan. Don't get me wrong though I'd rather Ryan any day but he might get more in a trade then Luca would. I see the lines being something like this Ryan/ Gadoury / Ehlers Meier/ Moynihan/ Fortier Moynihan/ Shewfelt/ Falkinham (maybe Falk plays centre on this line and Shewfelt plays wing not sure.) Rookie/ Watt/ Vuic Now if Caimpini stays and Ryan gets shipped off you'd move Meier to the top line and Caimpini goes to the second line. On defence the only 2 that will be for sires will be top pairing in Murphy and Hardie. After that it's just scary. And I already said this we need to draft a new franchise Goalie. Unless we have some high end American position player in lined we need to use our first pick on a goalie. The hope he can take the raines at Christmas and cash in on Fucale.
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Post by SteveUL on May 1, 2014 8:39:42 GMT -4
I like Cam's approach, only making 1-2 additions at the trade deadline(s). If you don't have most of your team set by training camp, then you weren't prepared. I think that approach is optimal ... but shit happens through a season that can force your hand to make blockbuster deals ... or pass up an opportunity with a veteran team that could contend.
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 1, 2014 9:27:23 GMT -4
I think the rebuild should start next year. Trade Weegar if he is not turning pro which I think he certainly will be. Trade Ryan, Fucale, & Ehlers (if Ehlers agrees to it, plus he will be a pro the following year) at the draft. Trade Gadoury & Murphy at Christmas. I don't think a firesale like that would happen but what a load of picks/propsects that would bring back. Selling next year is definitely the best move for the franchise long term. Not necessarily a firesale, but moving 2-3 key pieces and maybe a couple depth guys to get younger sets you up for success in 2-3 years instead of hanging on to fleeting glory.
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Post by Murph on May 1, 2014 10:05:14 GMT -4
There are a handful of "returning players" that could end up getting cut, waived and on the roster, but not in the lineup (Leblanc, Watt, Jacques, Fitzgerald). These guys are all low-ceiling players. If Halifax makes a few trades at the draft to get high draft picks, I'd expect those players to find their way into the line up.
Guys who could easily be moved the the draft: Ryan, Ciampini, Hardie, Gadoury, Fucale, Vuic. At minimum one of the 20's has to be dealt.
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Post by nsvees on May 1, 2014 10:50:54 GMT -4
I think a rebuild for next season would be the way to go. On paper, they aren't a league contender, and moving key pieces for a rebuild would set themselves up pretty well for a big run in the near future.
Outside of Ehlers, Fucale would have the most value, Ciampini may have helped his value with his play during the playoffs. If the right offer came for Ehlers, I'd definitely consider it as he'll likely be back in Junior next season no matter which NHL team drafts him. He needs to bulk up before making the jump to pro. You can't do anything with Weegar until you know if he's coming back or playing pro.
I don't think there are many untradeables on the roster, though maybe Ehlers would probably be the closest to it. See what the market is for the roster and go from there.
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