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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 3, 2014 17:38:19 GMT -4
You have not stated that multiple times. You've spent a month stating the COMPLETE opposite and that you(even though you're not a GM so why put it that way?) are 100% waiting to see where the team is at Christmas before you choose anything. If you indeed do see next year as being a 'go for it' year as you have admitted, then don't you agree that the buying for that team should start this year in order to give a maximum amount of time to make sure you have the proper assets? Not sure how you could possibly make it as difficult as you've tried to do to see that making that proper evaluation today and starting the conversations of buying now saves yourself from a mistake next year. Amazing how eventually you 100% contradicted your own strong hearted beliefs that under no circumstance can you ever decide in October what to do at Xmas of the same season yet said in November that you're a buyer NEXT season. Last word, as always, is you for. Happy back peddling. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Jack Bauer you silly son of a bitch. We literally had this conversation before and you're doing it again. I haven't stated multiple times that I would rather go for it next year? Alright well the search feature isn't working for some reason but here are some quick quotes I was able to pull: ***************************************************************** Eagles at Islanders (26/10/14) thread Not to worried about the standards as I'm still in the "go for it next year" camp.As nice a story as it'd be for Sullivan, a Cape Breton kid, to lead CB to a QMJHL title, it's not going to happen. I'm not going to point out all his flaws as it's kind of unfair to the kid but he's a serviceable backup in this league. ***************************************************************** Eagles on paper vs Eagles on ice thread I don't have a problem watching the current defense because I'm still thinking next year is more important than this year. They make some young guy mistakes but that's how you have to learn. Nosella is the only D older than 18 and he's not even overage quality. The goaltending is exactly what it's been since 2010, uninspired. I don't fully understand what's going on with the current forward group. Like the defense, it's still extremely young. Brunelle, Farrell, and Darcy are the only regulars over 18 giving the eagles a total of 5 players that are probably in their last year as Eagles (unless Brunelle does what he did last night consistently I guess). Lines have been juggled so much and I don't understand some of the calls (like splitting up Farrell & Svechnikov when they were so good together early). This team is still one of the youngest teams in the QMJHL so I'm content being patient. ***************************************************************** Second Quebec Trip -Sherbrooke/R-N/Val d'Or thread - this one here is one of my favorites because it's you doing exactly what you're doing right now, acting as if I haven't said next year is the year I believe CB should be going for it:***************************************************************** Save your last word garbage. If you're going to attempt to call someone out, at least get your shit straight. Like I've said to you multiple times before, you're having a conversation with yourself but directing it at me. You quote me but respond to the assumptions in your head rather than the words I've actually typed.
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Post by hal on Nov 3, 2014 17:43:29 GMT -4
The thing is that Bobby Smith is a "hockey guy" who owns a Major Junior Hockey Team .......Andre Cote sells Pop and around him we have an Insurance Salesman , a sports equipment guy , a trucker , so on and so on ......Cote may have the authourity to do something ......I just don't see it happening . If Dumont has a change in job description , it will take place off our fair isle .
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Post by eaglefan62 on Nov 3, 2014 17:50:52 GMT -4
Fully agree Hal. If a coaching change is to be made, Dumont is not going to pull the plug on himself.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 3, 2014 17:53:08 GMT -4
The thing is that Bobby Smith is a "hockey guy" who owns a Major Junior Hockey Team .......Andre Cote sells Pop and around him we have an Insurance Salesman , a sports equipment guy , a trucker , so on and so on ......Cote may have the authourity to do something ......I just don't see it happening . If Dumont has a change in job description , it will take place off our fair isle . I agree with you. Sadly we may be doomed to repeat history despite it being so close to home and not very long ago. Nice to see some adult comments and input though. Thanks hal.
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Post by goeagles on Nov 3, 2014 17:58:49 GMT -4
The thing is that Bobby Smith is a "hockey guy" who owns a Major Junior Hockey Team .......Andre Cote sells Pop and around him we have an Insurance Salesman , a sports equipment guy , a trucker , so on and so on ......Cote may have the authourity to do something ......I just don't see it happening . If Dumont has a change in job description , it will take place off our fair isle . I would just like Dumont to bring in a coach on the defensive side, work on their defensive game and special teams. Not sure Dumont has put in the expertise that other teams have put in on his coaching staff.
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 3, 2014 18:08:17 GMT -4
Nice to see some adult comments and input though. Thanks hal. Ye you're so mature going thread to thread starting the same argument, putting words in peoples mouths, & telling them they've never said something you simply didn't bother to read. The self righteousness is too funny, especially when you constantly start something you can't finish. The thing is that Bobby Smith is a "hockey guy" who owns a Major Junior Hockey Team .......Andre Cote sells Pop and around him we have an Insurance Salesman , a sports equipment guy , a trucker , so on and so on ......Cote may have the authourity to do something ......I just don't see it happening . If Dumont has a change in job description , it will take place off our fair isle . I hope you're wrong but these are the same people who hired a GM that didn't move to CB and later replaced him with a clueless coach that they fired a short time later. Nothing would surprise me.
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Post by rosaire on Nov 3, 2014 20:27:12 GMT -4
je crois que nous avons une bonne perspective dans midget AAA, comme Corbeil, L'Italien. Quelqu'un sait quelle saison ils ont à ce point, et il est possible d'effectuer une transaction avec ces gars.
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 3, 2014 20:41:28 GMT -4
je crois que nous avons une bonne perspective dans midget AAA, comme Corbeil, L'Italien. Quelqu'un sait quelle saison ils ont à ce point, et il est possible d'effectuer une transaction avec ces gars. L'Italien had 16GP 3G 14A 17PTS in QMAAA and seems to be the first on call (currently with the eagles) Corbeil has 18GP 5G 12A 17PTS in QMAAA right now. Definitely movable assets.
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Post by bois on Nov 4, 2014 11:03:12 GMT -4
Just wanna point out one thing then back away
a few years back when Durocher loaded up and you guys went out early.... with arguably a top 5 team on paper.... most posters were all over that approach as being a terrible mistake
this year with an arguably top 5 team on paper but a team currently barely in a playoff spot in the actual standings.... the argument is buy buy buy... or it would be a terrible mistake
that is all
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 4, 2014 11:10:00 GMT -4
Just wanna point out one thing then back away a few years back when Durocher loaded up and you guys went out early.... with arguably a top 5 team on paper.... most posters were all over that approach as being a terrible mistake this year with an arguably top 5 team on paper but a team currently barely in a playoff spot in the actual standings.... the argument is buy buy buy... or it would be a terrible mistake that is all I've yet to see 1 poster advocate for buying 1 year rentals. The argument being made by myself is to start buying for next year now. Similar to how Charlottetown acquired some of its current core players by moving picks it acquired for players that filled important needs like a #1 Goaltender. The 2 situations are so uncomparable it's laughable.
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Nov 4, 2014 11:16:31 GMT -4
Just wanna point out one thing then back away a few years back when Durocher loaded up and you guys went out early.... with arguably a top 5 team on paper.... most posters were all over that approach as being a terrible mistake this year with an arguably top 5 team on paper but a team currently barely in a playoff spot in the actual standings.... the argument is buy buy buy... or it would be a terrible mistake that is all A few differences this year though Bois. Cape Breton has a lot of young guys on their roster, plus some good young prospects not even on the team this year. Plus they have a pile of 1st round picks in the next 2 years. They probably could buy a player or two at some point with nothing but using some of their picks and young players, keep the 1 or 2 young guys they really covet, and not "sell the farm" doing so and have the eventual years of complete suckage after buying. Also they never should have went for it that year, assuming we're talking about the same year where they acquire Legace. That year they were quite a ways behind Moncton's and Saint John's teams and would have had to do a ton more buying than they did to catch up. Thus they were really the third best team in their own division, back when they playoff format for round one still was divisional #1 vs. #4, and #2 vs. #3. Thus they were guaranteed to catch either SJ or Moncton in round one, and out the door they went.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 4, 2014 11:21:59 GMT -4
Just wanna point out one thing then back away a few years back when Durocher loaded up and you guys went out early.... with arguably a top 5 team on paper.... most posters were all over that approach as being a terrible mistake this year with an arguably top 5 team on paper but a team currently barely in a playoff spot in the actual standings.... the argument is buy buy buy... or it would be a terrible mistake that is all A few differences this year though Bois. Cape Breton has a lot of young guys on their roster, plus some good young prospects not even on the team this year. Plus they have a pile of 1st round picks in the next 2 years. They probably could buy a player or two at some point with nothing but using some of their picks and young players, keep the 1 or 2 young guys they really covet, and not "sell the farm" doing so and have the eventual years of complete suckage after buying. Also they never should have went for it that year, assuming we're talking about the same year where they acquire Legace. That year they were quite a ways behind Moncton's and Saint John's teams and would have had to do a ton more buying than they did to catch up. Thus they were really the third best team in their own division, back when they playoff format for round one still was divisional #1 vs. #4, and #2 vs. #3. Thus they were guaranteed to catch either SJ or Moncton in round one, and out the door they went. Exactly. Legace alone cost us Gelinas who we had to trade Roy to acquire. Think about the chain reaction of what that 1 single trade did do this franchise over the last 5 years. And all to still be the 3rd best team in the division. Really not comparable.
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Post by bois on Nov 4, 2014 11:22:39 GMT -4
Just wanna point out one thing then back away a few years back when Durocher loaded up and you guys went out early.... with arguably a top 5 team on paper.... most posters were all over that approach as being a terrible mistake this year with an arguably top 5 team on paper but a team currently barely in a playoff spot in the actual standings.... the argument is buy buy buy... or it would be a terrible mistake that is all A few differences this year though Bois. Cape Breton has a lot of young guys on their roster, plus some good young prospects not even on the team this year. Plus they have a pile of 1st round picks in the next 2 years. They probably could buy a player or two at some point with nothing but using some of their picks and young players, keep the 1 or 2 young guys they really covet, and not "sell the farm" doing so and have the eventual years of complete suckage after buying. Also they never should have went for it that year, assuming we're talking about the same year where they acquire Legace. That year they were quite a ways behind Moncton's and Saint John's teams and would have had to do a ton more buying than they did to catch up. Thus they were really the third best team in their own division, back when they playoff format for round one still was divisional #1 vs. #4, and #2 vs. #3. Thus they were guaranteed to catch either SJ or Moncton in round one, and out the door they went. Not that unlike a team currently in 16th spot (obviously I do expect they will eventually climb up the standings somewhat... but we are getting close to a 1/3 of the way thru the season here) and yet some posters are suggesting they should be buying 19 year olds now... in a memorial Cup hosting year at that I'm not saying it's the wrong approach.... i'm just saying it's a bit hypocritical and the two situations are comparable... right now they'd be playing Rimouski in the playoffs.... why buy to bow out early?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 4, 2014 11:25:33 GMT -4
A few differences this year though Bois. Cape Breton has a lot of young guys on their roster, plus some good young prospects not even on the team this year. Plus they have a pile of 1st round picks in the next 2 years. They probably could buy a player or two at some point with nothing but using some of their picks and young players, keep the 1 or 2 young guys they really covet, and not "sell the farm" doing so and have the eventual years of complete suckage after buying. Also they never should have went for it that year, assuming we're talking about the same year where they acquire Legace. That year they were quite a ways behind Moncton's and Saint John's teams and would have had to do a ton more buying than they did to catch up. Thus they were really the third best team in their own division, back when they playoff format for round one still was divisional #1 vs. #4, and #2 vs. #3. Thus they were guaranteed to catch either SJ or Moncton in round one, and out the door they went. Not that unlike a team currently in 16th spot (obviously I do expect they will eventually climb up the standings somewhat... but we are getting close to a 1/3 of the way thru the season here) and yet some posters are suggesting they should be buying 19 year olds now... in a memorial Cup hosting year at that I'm not saying it's the wrong approach.... i'm just saying it's a bit hypocritical and the two situations are comparable... right now they'd be playing Rimouski in the playoffs.... why buy to bow out early? You're definition of 'buy' seems to be 1 year players. 20's and 19's who likely won't return. Nobody here wants that. We want trades like how Charlottetown acquired MacDonald and Cooper. That's buying too.
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 4, 2014 11:28:51 GMT -4
Charlottetown were bigger sellers than buyers lol
They brought in Mason McDonald and 2 rookie D but they also gave up Laplante & Bibeau. They brought in 4 more 1sts than they gave up in the trades.
You want CB to go acquire more 1sts?
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