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Post by goeagles on Nov 2, 2014 13:05:42 GMT -4
As I am sure Coach Dumont is busy trying to figure out what he has and what he does not have I figured I would try and put myself in his shoes. I like the job he has done from a GM, not as much on the coaching side as despite the talent this team is under achieving and out of balance. What I mean by out of balance is no 19 year olds that will have an impact next season, no goaltending solution for next year and defense that our young. They need a number one and possibly a number 2 in the back that are 18 or 19. I would address that at Christmas with some picks. They are currently playing Leveille, Deschamps and MacIntyre as a 1, 2 and 3. They become 3, 4 and 3 where I think they will be more suited as that is their ceiling. Bell and Lalonde who have a higher ceiling are not getting the ice time they need so they become available. No need keeping them if you are not developing them. I would keep one of them and put them in your 2 spot for the rest of the year. Give them the confidence and playing time. Lets say that is Bell, I would try and complete a 3 way trade with Halifax and Quebec. Lalonde, a first rounder and the rights to Oleary to Halifax, Fucale to Quebec and Booth to Cape Breton. Now you have to get a 19 year old defenseman and you still have lots of prospects from the draft last year and lots of picks over the next 3 years. You could even entertain trading Darcy at Christmas for more ice time up the middle to Bishop and Simard who may be your one and two centers for next year.
My next job would be looking for a coach that can bring in some knowldge and a system on the defensive side as well as basic fundementals. That could be simply adding an assistant coach. It is amazing how many times this team gets caught unable to get out of their zone for long periods and how many fast breaks they give up coughing up the puck when entering the other team zone.
That was my GM for 10 minute rant.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Nov 2, 2014 13:14:28 GMT -4
That deal is very unlikely.
Quebec don't need a goalie, Booth is good enough for them and at his age a better fit than a 3-month rental.
Regardless of that, Quebec don't have a great deal of assets and they have bigger needs than in goal.
Quebec aren't trading Booth for Fucale. And Halifax would probably prefer to keep Booth anyway. Chances are they may be able to get O'Leary in the next draft (if they get a commitment and CB don't think they will). The Eagles don't have much leverage with him.
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 2, 2014 13:21:55 GMT -4
If I was Dumont I'd do ungodly things for Booth but there's no way they trade him.
The only reason he dropped in the Q draft was because of legitimate NCAA fear. He was playing at a prep school in the states and now his CÉGEP course load is ridiculous.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Nov 2, 2014 14:27:23 GMT -4
If I were Dumont, I would be looking at Drummondville, Chicoutimi or Val d or as trading partners. Drummondville is expected to be in the bottom quarter of the standings this year and have a good 20 year old right handed shooting defenceman that could be had for Brassard and a combination of players/picks. Chicoutimi will be an interesting watch at Christmas time, they are struggling out of the gate and are packed with 19 year olds (12) with only three being able to return next year. If things do not improve by Christmas, they might decide to go into a rebuild mode and dump some of the 19 year olds. Val dor looks like a bottom end team this year and have a good 20 year old defemceman in Fraser and a good 17 year old goaltender in Bouchard. Dumont was away on a scouting trip last weekend and missed the game in Charlottetown, Ihear he was up in Sherbrooke watching Val d or and Sherbrooke. Has anyone heard what the status is on the young American goalie who was here a couple of weeks ago, is he in the plans for later this year or next or has he decided against coming here. I also agree that we do need a coach to bring this team along. I give Dumont full marks for what he is doing as GM but I do not think he is the coach to lead us to the promised land.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Nov 2, 2014 14:29:42 GMT -4
I forgot to mention in my previous post that Drummondville also has a good 19 year old goaltender who will probably be back next year.
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Post by EagleFan2009 on Nov 2, 2014 22:30:05 GMT -4
They will never replace Dumont as coach as long as he's the gm. That's a pipe dream.
I sure as hell hope him saying those things about brassard is just to save face.
What about the huskies? How good is belanger? And gunette on d looks like a monster. Asking because I don't really follow the Quebec teams.
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Post by mooseinfo on Nov 2, 2014 23:01:36 GMT -4
They will never replace Dumont as coach as long as he's the gm. That's a pipe dream. I sure as hell hope him saying those things about brassard is just to save face. What about the huskies? How good is belanger? And gunette on d looks like a monster. Asking because I don't really follow the Quebec teams. Victo would seem to be well placed for a goalie trade, they have a couple playing well although one is 20, 2 NS as well. It just depends on how it plays out at Xmas. They likely dont take Brassard for the swap and CB had the other. |
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Post by mooseinfo on Nov 2, 2014 23:17:29 GMT -4
If I were Dumont, I would be looking at Drummondville, Chicoutimi or Val d or as trading partners. Drummondville is expected to be in the bottom quarter of the standings this year and have a good 20 year old right handed shooting defenceman that could be had for Brassard and a combination of players/picks. Chicoutimi will be an interesting watch at Christmas time, they are struggling out of the gate and are packed with 19 year olds (12) with only three being able to return next year. If things do not improve by Christmas, they might decide to go into a rebuild mode and dump some of the 19 year olds. Val dor looks like a bottom end team this year and have a good 20 year old defemceman in Fraser and a good 17 year old goaltender in Bouchard. Dumont was away on a scouting trip last weekend and missed the game in Charlottetown, Ihear he was up in Sherbrooke watching Val d or and Sherbrooke. Has anyone heard what the status is on the young American goalie who was here a couple of weeks ago, is he in the plans for later this year or next or has he decided against coming here. I also agree that we do need a coach to bring this team along. I give Dumont full marks for what he is doing as GM but I do not think he is the coach to lead us to the promised land. Chicoutimi could be a force in the playoffs if they had better goaltending. They are in a tough division so results look worse. Lost 2x by 1 goal to quebec and 1x by 1 goal to rim and blb. A couple 2 goal games as well. Better goalie perhaps gets them 8 more points while taking them from the competition. Thats a big difference this early. They got 20s as futures to use in trade with all those 19 yr olds. |
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Post by statsman18 on Nov 3, 2014 10:46:15 GMT -4
They will never replace Dumont as coach as long as he's the gm. That's a pipe dream. I sure as hell hope him saying those things about brassard is just to save face. What about the huskies? How good is belanger? And gunette on d looks like a monster. Asking because I don't really follow the Quebec teams. I wouldn't be so sure about taking the coaching away from Dumont. It happened Halifax with Cam. It's very similar cases to. Both excelled as GM but they were only so so as a coach. It has payed off hugely in Halifax. Hell they can even go after someone who was with Halifax and Dom. Steve Hartley would be a good guy to go after. As for the Huskies and how good Belanger and Gunette are. Belanger this year has seemed to come into his own if you will. I think he suffered an injury though and hasn't played in a while. He is also drafted but I don't think he is signed yet. So this could be his last year. Gunette is a top pairing defencemen in this league. He's an offensive mind Defencemen. The thing is RN is a team that you have to wait and see. They're in a weak division and might decided to buy and give it a go. If the do howevere decide to sell those 2 players might on top of every teams wish list. |
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Post by bois on Nov 3, 2014 12:17:07 GMT -4
Not so sure we aren't the weak division again this year
as for Chicoutimi,..... yes they have assets to trade and they could be doing better.... but every time they fail to pick up a point they fall further and further down the standings... history has pretty much shown buying when you are a below average team in the standings doesn't usually fare out too well
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 3, 2014 12:26:33 GMT -4
Not so sure we aren't the weak division again this year as for Chicoutimi,..... yes they have assets to trade and they could be doing better.... but every time they fail to pick up a point they fall further and further down the standings... history has pretty much shown buying when you are a below average team in the standings doesn't usually fare out too well Your description of Chicoutimi reminds me of another team that starts with C  |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 3, 2014 12:36:55 GMT -4
If I was Dumont I'd do ungodly things for Booth but there's no way they trade him. The only reason he dropped in the Q draft was because of legitimate NCAA fear. He was playing at a prep school in the states and now his CÉGEP course load is ridiculous. Unless Quebec is nuts, nobody should be untoucheable...they have a chance to win a Memorial Cup. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 3, 2014 12:52:19 GMT -4
Not so sure we aren't the weak division again this year as for Chicoutimi,..... yes they have assets to trade and they could be doing better.... but every time they fail to pick up a point they fall further and further down the standings... history has pretty much shown buying when you are a below average team in the standings doesn't usually fare out too well Your description of Chicoutimi reminds me of another team that starts with C Chicoutimi is top heavy in 19's but have 17's they want to build around meaning their real window to win ends in 16-17. Cape Breton is top heavy in 18's but have excellent 17's, a pile of good 16yr olds, and 3 1st round picks. The window to win ends in 15-16. Chicoutimi reminds me a lot of us last year but this year the teams are going in opposite directions on the trade market. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 3, 2014 12:54:32 GMT -4
If I was Dumont I'd do ungodly things for Booth but there's no way they trade him. The only reason he dropped in the Q draft was because of legitimate NCAA fear. He was playing at a prep school in the states and now his CÉGEP course load is ridiculous. Unless Quebec is nuts, nobody should be untoucheable...they have a chance to win a Memorial Cup. Agreed. Where things get tough for us is having no 19's to use in trades like that. Would have to be a 3 team deal but I find that's the conclusion you come to when examining most of the ways CB can make an impact with all of the assets Dumont has. |
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 3, 2014 14:16:33 GMT -4
Your description of Chicoutimi reminds me of another team that starts with C Chicoutimi is top heavy in 19's but have 17's they want to build around meaning their real window to win ends in 16-17. Cape Breton is top heavy in 18's but have excellent 17's, a pile of good 16yr olds, and 3 1st round picks. The window to win ends in 15-16.Chicoutimi reminds me a lot of us last year but this year the teams are going in opposite directions on the trade market. The post I quoted said: Chicoutimi has: -assets to trade -could be doing better -every time they fail to pick up a point they fall further and further down the standings (true for every team ever) So I was saying it compares to CB because they have: -assets to trade -could be doing better -every time they fail to pick up a point they fall further and further down the standings (true for every team ever) And I agree with him that history shows buying when you are a below average team in the standings, it doesn't usually work out too well. Not surprised you're trying to restart the same conversation we disagree on before. I don't think CB's window closes in 15-16 when you consider they could potentially have Bell, Lalonde, Dubois, a new import, 3 overagers out of MacIntyre, Deschamps, Simard/Leveille/Lazarev. Good drafting & trades could keep the window open longer. |
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