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Jan 29, 2015 15:29:48 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 29, 2015 15:29:48 GMT -4
The Chaleur region includes a lot of areas nearby that are seasonal, I'd say the government has put in a lot more than they have gotten from the mines. A huge percentage of the jobs within 90 minutes of Bathurst are seasonal. Those jobs don't usually carry their share of the tax revenue. The Moncton area if anything has been helping subsidize the north. If you can't see that you obviously have no clue on taxes and public finances. For decades we had 4 pulp mills plus a smelter plus a 1000 miners' mine who were pumping money elsewhere provincially. If you cannot see this, you never witnessed the poor level of service we were getting in the North compared to the level of taxes we were pumping in the South coffers. Now you might have a case, but the condescendant way we are described here is simply untrue and unfactual. Right...because when you had 4 pulp mills and a mine everybody in the south was living off welfare and EI, right? Your problem is that you never get out and think the world revolves around Bathurst.
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2015-16
Jan 29, 2015 15:44:46 GMT -4
Post by chsb on Jan 29, 2015 15:44:46 GMT -4
For decades we had 4 pulp mills plus a smelter plus a 1000 miners' mine who were pumping money elsewhere provincially. If you cannot see this, you never witnessed the poor level of service we were getting in the North compared to the level of taxes we were pumping in the South coffers. Now you might have a case, but the condescendant way we are described here is simply untrue and unfactual. Right...because when you had 4 pulp mills and a mine everybody in the south was living off welfare and EI, right? Your problem is that you never get out and think the world revolves around Bathurst. ody in the North Well you make it sound that, when the North was a mioney engine, we were not contributing to the provincial budget. Nobody in the North is convinced is convinced that we got our fair share in the past, which is mostly true. Now that we are in a slump, you would like all the economic expenditure to be made in your City. It does obviously not evolve around Moncton solely in this Province. My bet is that you will see this project postponed for a few years.
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2015-16
Jan 29, 2015 15:47:29 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 29, 2015 15:47:29 GMT -4
Right...because when you had 4 pulp mills and a mine everybody in the south was living off welfare and EI, right? Your problem is that you never get out and think the world revolves around Bathurst. ody in the North Well you make it sound that, when the North was a mioney engine, we were not contributing to the provincial budget. Nobody in the North is convinced is convinced that we got our fair share in the past, which is mostly true. Now that we are in a slump, you would like all the economic expenditure to be made in your City. It does obviously not evolve around Moncton solely in this Province. My bet is that you will see this project postponed for a few years. The north isn't just in a slump, most of the stuff that was there is no longer there. You did get your fair shake in the past, now you're living off the "south" the last few years. The province is not far from bankruptcy so major cuts are needed, a lot of people won't be happy, but it will be better and being in a 3rd world country.
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2015-16
Jan 29, 2015 15:48:00 GMT -4
Post by SteveUL on Jan 29, 2015 15:48:00 GMT -4
Unfortunately, if we keep pumping money into regions that are fading ... people moving away ... then it is just wasted money. But the politicians do it to keep getting votes.
The trains are pulling out of the region ... it is hard to get a bus to run up that way ... the highway is dangerous (moreso between Moncton and Miramichi) ... it just isn't an area where spending money is a wise decision anymore.
The Chaleur region used to be a vibrant region with lots of good industrial jobs ... but those jobs have run their course. The next generation has moved on and are looking for education and jobs that fit their education ... but those jobs aren't abundant in the Chaleur. There are some ... but more and more those are becoming "make work" projects ... handouts.
Our Province is dying and we will all have to gradually creep in toward the larger centers to find the work that can be sustainable. Sad reality for all of us.
My advice to the younger generation ... don't buy property in NB.
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Jan 29, 2015 19:22:47 GMT -4
Post by Rocky Saganiuk on Jan 29, 2015 19:22:47 GMT -4
Firstly, since we are on the topic of politics, that NB government promise to build the facility, literally days before the election was a calculated move to gain last minute votes from the undecided; to tip the balance in, what was at the time, a "too close to call" election, according to internal polls . Politically, I don't blame them,and I think it benefited the Tories in Moncton. Did it fit with the Finance Minister's philosophy of the day? Absolutely not.
I'm as tired as anyone of not getting decent musical acts, watching the puck bounce on soft ice, sweating like a pig in September, and inadvertently touching hips with the two guys pissing on either side of me at the urinals. I have spent a lot of my salary at the coliseum, and don't regret a minute. But...
You can not make sweeping cuts in Health and dump millions into a "Hockey Rink". I don't care what you call it, what events it presumably will host, it is essentially a Hockey Rink. This "reinventing or revitalization" of the downtown core is pure bullshit. The downtown has run its course, like has been alluded to about the north shore. No offense chsb, and I, in now way, am attempting to insult this particular NB population, and I'd be the first to defend the work ethic of mill and mine workers.
So, in this time of approaching job and program cuts, we expect the public to pay more (increased ticket prices, paid parking, increased concession costs) to see Junior Hockey in what will amount to be a short term novelty? Not to mention the guaranteed hike in property taxes to help "off set the cost". Don't worry, it won't be stated as such, it will just be due to increased property values.
Cripes, look what we pay in "service charges" now for events at the coliseum. (See Globetrotters) For ordering on-line and having the ticket roll out a printer that I pick up at the box office?
Moncton has proven the we have neither the disposable $$ or interest (poor attendance in the rink we have now, if you ask me)to justify the investment.
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Jan 29, 2015 21:21:58 GMT -4
Post by npsh on Jan 29, 2015 21:21:58 GMT -4
If you read the front page of today’s paper(the biggest headline) and subsequent headlines from Gallant over this short while, I firmly believe he is laying the groundwork for some serious reorganization in levels of service probably targeting health care amongst other things. The PC previous administration may have promised whatever but they are not in power anymore. Reading between the lines, it certainly suggests to me the current NB Liberal administration will not anti- up any resources for a new “hockey rink” in Moncton.
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2015-16
Jan 30, 2015 13:56:25 GMT -4
Post by joehockey on Jan 30, 2015 13:56:25 GMT -4
A bit of a change in topic but does anyone know whether RJ Murphy is planning on giving the Cats a look next season, I know he was going to this year but was sick or injured. He seems to be having a good year at St Sebastians
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2015-16
Jan 30, 2015 18:49:06 GMT -4
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Post by lirette on Jan 30, 2015 18:49:06 GMT -4
Who needs a new rink when we've got these fancy new nevco LED screens!
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