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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 10:42:35 GMT -4
for a franchise that has had so much success especially lately... the number of blatant whiny petulent posts suggesting leaguewide conspiracies is second to none We have those people here in CB too. Convinced the world is out to screw over their hockey team. I've never seen many well officiated Q games in 15 years of following the league. Consistently mediocre for both teams is what i've come to expect. Watching 6 different Maritime fan bases mention the bias after every game of questionable incident just becomes frustrating as it's clearly the same in every rink and every team is affected by it. But would any of us WANT to be a ref in this league at the same time? I feel bad for them as I get older. The way some of them act here in Halifax ( Piccott, Thomander- arrogant c you next Tuesday, etc) they should feel lucky they get to suck and still have their jobs and that Scotiabank security is there to protect them.
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Post by catnut on Mar 9, 2015 11:04:07 GMT -4
We have those people here in CB too. Convinced the world is out to screw over their hockey team. I've never seen many well officiated Q games in 15 years of following the league. Consistently mediocre for both teams is what i've come to expect. Watching 6 different Maritime fan bases mention the bias after every game of questionable incident just becomes frustrating as it's clearly the same in every rink and every team is affected by it. But would any of us WANT to be a ref in this league at the same time? I feel bad for them as I get older. The way some of them act here in Halifax ( Piccott, Thomander- arrogant c you next Tuesday, etc) they should feel lucky they get to suck and still have their jobs and that Scotiabank security is there to protect them. You think they don't do the same in other rinks? Again, it's a perceived bias by the hometown fans. It's like that everywhere.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Mar 9, 2015 11:12:13 GMT -4
^^ This. It is all about inconsistency, and every team has been on the short end of the stick at one time or another. About Bent: Bent is the type of player that everyone hates when he's not on your team. He's a pest... a "rat" if you will. He plays that type of game that even trolls opposing fans. Drives everyone nuts. You can call his play cowardly and a disgrace to the game. But if it's effective, and until the league starts giving out 10-minute misconducts for some of his actions, it's going to continue. Every team has had a player like Bent at one point or another. He'll be out of the league next year, and the next "Bent" will come along. Halifax doesn't exactly have an abundance of young forward talent. So pluggers are going to be used. Bent is a plugger who can score the occasional goal, and troll the occasional player/fan. The problem is that the Mooseheads more often than not get the short end of the stick i) Ashley's suspension against PEI in 2012 then Sorenson does basically the same thing and gets no suspension. ii) Critchow suspension in 2012 playoffs... complete horseshit. iii) Lewis suspension causing him to miss deciding game in 2013... yeah Halifax won but complete bullshit. iv) Erne not getting suspended whatsoever for injuring Drouin last year. There are many more that I could go over but lack of time right now... I challenge anybody to come out with anything where the Mooseheads actually got away with something suspension related where a Mooseheads player got off without suspension or got less than he should have based upon precedent or an offending player got more than they should have... Drouin hit a Drakkar player from behind in the finals in the Mem Cup year. It should have been a major and a game or two. He only got a minor. And Critchlow's suspension was consistent. If you are called pulling someone's helmet off. It is an automatic suspension. Happens to every team. Why should it have been overturned just because it was Critchlow?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 9, 2015 11:19:08 GMT -4
We have those people here in CB too. Convinced the world is out to screw over their hockey team. I've never seen many well officiated Q games in 15 years of following the league. Consistently mediocre for both teams is what i've come to expect. Watching 6 different Maritime fan bases mention the bias after every game of questionable incident just becomes frustrating as it's clearly the same in every rink and every team is affected by it. But would any of us WANT to be a ref in this league at the same time? I feel bad for them as I get older. The way some of them act here in Halifax ( Piccott, Thomander- arrogant c you next Tuesday, etc) they should feel lucky they get to suck and still have their jobs and that Scotiabank security is there to protect them. Are you a child? They're doing a job. They're not acting any way. To them half their battle is players like Ehlers who try to make them look worse then they are. Your answer to a bad penalty is for fans to physically harm the official? Do you not possibly understand how that childish attitude is why people want no part of doing that job and you're stuck with the same average officials year after year? The hilarious thing is people thinking that after 10-15 years someone like Thomander cares what the outcome of a game is to the point of being bias toward an entire team or city.
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Post by MikeC on Mar 9, 2015 13:16:37 GMT -4
I remember a number of years back when Halifax and Moncton met in the playoffs ... Abeltshauser (sp ?) hit Delisle-Houde in the head along the boards ... Flynn sent in the video ... no suspension. There you go ... I took the challenge. Took the challenge and lost. Abeltshauser was suspended 2 games for that hit on Delisle-Houde.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Mar 9, 2015 13:55:48 GMT -4
I remember a number of years back when Halifax and Moncton met in the playoffs ... Abeltshauser (sp ?) hit Delisle-Houde in the head along the boards ... Flynn sent in the video ... no suspension. There you go ... I took the challenge. Took the challenge and lost. Abeltshauser was suspended 2 games for that hit on Delisle-Houde. I also remember a preseason game hit on Frk that left him concussed for several weeks. The Mooseheads claim they decided not to send tape into league and not make a big deal of it. It was vs Moncton. however later that year the Mooseheads got a questionable suspension on a hit that Moncton did ask the league to punish.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Mar 9, 2015 13:58:24 GMT -4
The board meeting to decide discipline somewhere in a back room in Quebec City went something like this: (translated to English) "OK need to decide the penalty for the Halifax player and the Bathurst player..both guy got 5 and a game" "Well which one is the Quebec team?" " Both Halifax and Bathurst is Maritime team" "Oh then it easy - where is the wheel?" "Sir the wheel... Spinnning and it land on two...two game" "Give the Halifax player 2 game" "Um he didnt hit anyone u want to see the video" "No my poutine is geting cold. Lets just give the other guy 2 game too. Then nobody can say we were not fair" " Now in that game Cape Breton and Baie Comeau look at the chart and it 4 game for Cape Breton player and 0 game for Baie Comeau player. It always easier when a team from Quebec" "OK now lets go to lunch. See you next week." at least come up with your own material...... Down Goes Brown already used the spinning wheel years ago Down Goes Brown did not do it from French to English translation. Actually I do not think its a conspiracy - if u guys read my example it is about inconsistency or lack of care when the teams are not relevant to the La Presse/ TVA audience. Nobody will report on it so why spend much time deliberating.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 14:01:22 GMT -4
Took the challenge and lost. Abeltshauser was suspended 2 games for that hit on Delisle-Houde. I also remember a preseason game hit on Frk that left him concussed for several weeks. months. The Mooseheads claim they decided not to send tape into league and not make a big deal of it. It was vs Moncton. however later that year the Mooseheads got a questionable suspension on a hit that Moncton did ask the league to punish. Corrected for you
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 9, 2015 16:24:05 GMT -4
I remember a number of years back when Halifax and Moncton met in the playoffs ... Abeltshauser (sp ?) hit Delisle-Houde in the head along the boards ... Flynn sent in the video ... no suspension. There you go ... I took the challenge. Took the challenge and lost. Abeltshauser was suspended 2 games for that hit on Delisle-Houde. And it should have been 5. I remembered it incorrectly but I know I was upset with the outcome ... just an opinion of course. Of course, I'm just trusting you to be correct ... I didn't look it up.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 9, 2015 16:31:31 GMT -4
Took the challenge and lost. Abeltshauser was suspended 2 games for that hit on Delisle-Houde. I also remember a preseason game hit on Frk that left him concussed for several weeks. The Mooseheads claim they decided not to send tape into league and not make a big deal of it. It was vs Moncton. however later that year the Mooseheads got a questionable suspension on a hit that Moncton did ask the league to punish. If I recall correctly (and I often don't as I get older), a minor was assessed to one of the Saulnier's for the hit. Frk finished the game (I was there), and later was determined to have been concussed. Where the call was a minor, there was no league review. And it was only later on that the concussion issue popped up, so the Refs had no information on injury at the time of the call. It is up to your team to send in video to have the league look at it, unless it is a match or a major assessed. Your own team dropped the ball. It was a clean hit on a guy taking a shot on goal. Sometimes people get hurt on clean hockey plays. How can you blame the league for that ?
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Mar 9, 2015 17:25:42 GMT -4
Its getting to be like a NE Patriot form on here. Every thing that doesn't go your team's way is a conspiracy. NE's fans claim conspiracy when they get investigated for deflating balls, but when Atlanta gets investigated for crowd noise or Cleveland for illegal texting you don't here. The whole the Q is against Halifax or the maritime teams is a joke. If the Q was so against Halifax how were they able to trade for MacKinnon? That is just a perception. Halifax fans have come across as blindly loyal lately. Not sure why - guys make dumb decisions out there and the refs are just trying to keep a lid on things. The whole reason this is being discussed is that Dom decided to rattle the boards and claim that Ehlers gets treated unfairly. Many of us on here already think thats BS. Ehlers has dived, or fallen too easy and made the refs shy about calling everything every time he falls. Frankly watching him play for 2 years it looks like he is selling calls too much. Ducharme knows this but will never admit. Other teams complained and refs see videos too - and it takes a while to get a reputation back. However that said - going back to the mid-90s. Has anyone kept track of # suspensions by franchise. It may be coincidence. But certain teams have reputations. Right now that reputation is whiners and bullies. Halifax as a flagship franchise for the CHL has clout. Off the ice I am sure they have ruffled feathers in this league. Make your Patriots vs Falcons comparison - in the Q its Quebec, Gatineau, Halifax that can make the most waves when they think something is not fair to them. So even a minor thing for those teams ends up blown out of proportion - like this Ehlers thing.
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Post by catnut on Mar 9, 2015 21:34:28 GMT -4
Its getting to be like a NE Patriot form on here. Every thing that doesn't go your team's way is a conspiracy. NE's fans claim conspiracy when they get investigated for deflating balls, but when Atlanta gets investigated for crowd noise or Cleveland for illegal texting you don't here. The whole the Q is against Halifax or the maritime teams is a joke. If the Q was so against Halifax how were they able to trade for MacKinnon? That is just a perception. Halifax fans have come across as blindly loyal lately. Not sure why - guys make dumb decisions out there and the refs are just trying to keep a lid on things. The whole reason this is being discussed is that Dom decided to rattle the boards and claim that Ehlers gets treated unfairly. Many of us on here already think thats BS. Ehlers has dived, or fallen too easy and made the refs shy about calling everything every time he falls. Frankly watching him play for 2 years it looks like he is selling calls too much. Ducharme knows this but will never admit. Other teams complained and refs see videos too - and it takes a while to get a reputation back. However that said - going back to the mid-90s. Has anyone kept track of # suspensions by franchise. It may be coincidence. But certain teams have reputations. Right now that reputation is whiners and bullies. Halifax as a flagship franchise for the CHL has clout. Off the ice I am sure they have ruffled feathers in this league. Make your Patriots vs Falcons comparison - in the Q its Quebec, Gatineau, Halifax that can make the most waves when they think something is not fair to them. So even a minor thing for those teams ends up blown out of proportion - like this Ehlers thing. I would bet that Baie-Comeau is at the top of the list. This year, they are leading the league by a landslide. That was the calculation done last week for this season. Quebec teams don't have an edge on average compared to Maritime teams. BC : 41 CAP : 22 STJ : 21 RIM : 18 CHI : 18 SHE : 18 VDO : 16 RN : 13 MON : 11 HFX : 11 BLB : 9 BAT : 8 DRU : 8 QC: 7 CHA : 6 VIC : 5 SHA : 4 GAT : 1
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Post by seαωo|f on Mar 9, 2015 22:18:43 GMT -4
That is just a perception. Halifax fans have come across as blindly loyal lately. Not sure why - guys make dumb decisions out there and the refs are just trying to keep a lid on things. The whole reason this is being discussed is that Dom decided to rattle the boards and claim that Ehlers gets treated unfairly. Many of us on here already think thats BS. Ehlers has dived, or fallen too easy and made the refs shy about calling everything every time he falls. Frankly watching him play for 2 years it looks like he is selling calls too much. Ducharme knows this but will never admit. Other teams complained and refs see videos too - and it takes a while to get a reputation back. However that said - going back to the mid-90s. Has anyone kept track of # suspensions by franchise. It may be coincidence. But certain teams have reputations. Right now that reputation is whiners and bullies. Halifax as a flagship franchise for the CHL has clout. Off the ice I am sure they have ruffled feathers in this league. Make your Patriots vs Falcons comparison - in the Q its Quebec, Gatineau, Halifax that can make the most waves when they think something is not fair to them. So even a minor thing for those teams ends up blown out of proportion - like this Ehlers thing. I would bet that Baie-Comeau is at the top of the list. This year, they are leading the league by a landslide. That was the calculation done last week for this season. Quebec teams don't have an edge on average compared to Maritime teams. BC : 41 CAP : 22 STJ : 21 RIM : 18 CHI : 18 SHE : 18 VDO : 16 RN : 13 MON : 11 HFX : 11 BLB : 9 BAT : 8 DRU : 8 QC: 7 CHA : 6 VIC : 5 SHA : 4 GAT : 1 Holy shit. Baie-Comeau has had more suspensions than the Olympiques, Cataractes, Tigres, Islanders, Remparts, Volts & Titan combined.
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Post by Reesor on Mar 18, 2015 7:29:58 GMT -4
No posted fine for Ducharme on the Q site. I'm surprised... that was a pretty good rant.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 18, 2015 8:24:50 GMT -4
He should talk to his player, Ehlers has a reputation around the league as a diver.
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