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Post by chsb on Aug 30, 2015 12:55:51 GMT -4
Some non-sequitur mixed with some projection and conformation bias. That's pretty well the recipe for a delicious delusional cake. Halifax gets blown out 7-2 in a pre-season game (which, he didn't watch), only CHSB use this to jump to this conclusion. Trying to rationalize that "hey, Halifax didn't have a bad night, they just suck, they must suck because Cape Breton also sucks, therefore the Titan are better by comparison!" (tell me I'm wrong that that's exactly what you are thinking.) I'd like to come back to this after about 15-20 games, however by that time you'll have deserted the boards again because the Titan will be in last. Lol! Halifax are rebuilding. The Titan are always trying to "rebuild". Enjoy the basement and take you're trolling elsewhere. No trolling here! Raimu has been saying for a while now that he thinks Halifax will surprise this season. I simply state that, after the Drouin/MacKinnon era, it is now rebuilding time for them. If Cam does not do it at the Fall, he will start at Christmas no worry by trading a guy like Meier or even Moynihan. If he does not, he will definitely be delaying his rebuild. Any time LGM wanted to delay a rebuild, you were all over telling the Titan were badly managed. This season will be the time for you guys to discover what the little Titan steps in the past two years have done for the team. They are definitely not a bottom feeder in the Q this season. Now I am not afraid of hiding out after 20 games like you suggest.
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Post by billet on Aug 30, 2015 13:12:06 GMT -4
Sorrentino, Anthony got five shots on net him and Fournier, Jordan Ty got five also . some say he can't skate but he sure gets around sorrentino.
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Post by aquilae on Aug 30, 2015 14:51:49 GMT -4
How did the Finn look for Halifax?
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Post by Citris on Aug 30, 2015 18:24:24 GMT -4
No trolling here! Raimu has been saying for a while now that he thinks Halifax will surprise this season. I simply state that, after the Drouin/MacKinnon era, it is now rebuilding time for them. If Cam does not do it at the Fall, he will start at Christmas no worry by trading a guy like Meier or even Moynihan. If he does not, he will definitely be delaying his rebuild. Any time LGM wanted to delay a rebuild, you were all over telling the Titan were badly managed. This season will be the time for you guys to discover what the little Titan steps in the past two years have done for the team. They are definitely not a bottom feeder in the Q this season. Now I am not afraid of hiding out after 20 games like you suggest. No, I don't think you're trolling, not consciously. You're just a homer who is blissfully unaware of his own bias. LGM delaying a rebuild involved spending picks to pick up veterans in order to finish 12th instead of 15th or something. Halifax traded Fucale and Murphy, and will likely make some trades at Christmas to pick up more assets. However, it is not even September. I have to make predictions based on the rosters we have right now, rather than making assumptions about what will happen in December.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Aug 30, 2015 19:27:07 GMT -4
Lol! Halifax are rebuilding. The Titan are always trying to "rebuild". Enjoy the basement and take you're trolling elsewhere. No trolling here! Raimu has been saying for a while now that he thinks Halifax will surprise this season. I simply state that, after the Drouin/MacKinnon era, it is now rebuilding time for them. If Cam does not do it at the Fall, he will start at Christmas no worry by trading a guy like Meier or even Moynihan. If he does not, he will definitely be delaying his rebuild. Any time LGM wanted to delay a rebuild, you were all over telling the Titan were badly managed. This season will be the time for you guys to discover what the little Titan steps in the past two years have done for the team. They are definitely not a bottom feeder in the Q this season. Now I am not afraid of hiding out after 20 games like you suggest. No, I honestly don't think you are trolling- you either are just unaware of facts or if you are you choose to ignore facts that don't support your argument or discredit it. Before I start my response here I apologize to Eagles fans for doing this here on the Eagles board but chsb brought it up on here so anyways here goes. In case you haven't noticed the Mooseheads rebuild started last year with Fucale, Murphy and Lussier all traded. The rebuild started last year and still the team was within a win of going to the 3rd round for the 4th year in a row. Actually Bathurst has helped out the Mooseheads a bit the last couple years by taking our surplus OAs in Beauchemin and Ryan so please thanx Titan management for that. I could be wrong but I believe those draft picks are either Taillefer or Connnor Moynihan and I'm pretty sure the Ryan picks are Nauss and Dachyshyn. At the start of this season the Mooseheads are dressing 8 rookies and they also have Crossley and Nauss who are both 2nd year players at 17 years old. Even if Cam were to stand pat and not trade guys like Meier, Danny Moynihan, Donaghey and Brassard the Mooseheads will still have 2 top 10 draft picks in 2016 and will have a fairly high Euro pick in 2016. And if the Mooseheads do sell the team is in even better shape going forward with picks and the prospects they got from the 2015 draft and were sent back to MAAA. I do get it though- the glory days for the Mooseheads with Mackinnon, Drouin, Ehlers have passed by and you relish the thought this year of finally being able to take stabs at Mooseheads fans every chance you get. All knowledgeable junior hockey fans know that their team has to rebuild sometime right and for Halifax this is the time. So get your pathetic little jabs in- at least I know it won't take 6 years for the Mooseheads to rebuild and when I go to games this year at Scotiabank Center and watch the Mooseheads getting their asses handed to them by Cape Breton, Saint John and Charlottetown I can look up at a Memorial Cup banner... and a President's Cup banner which wasn't literally bought and know that Mooseheads management is proven capable of bringing another championship season sooner than your team's management is. Cheers!!!!!
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Post by eaglefan62 on Aug 31, 2015 11:42:51 GMT -4
Hearing from a source this morning that the Eagles have no intention of trading Bowers this year or any other year. It appears that the organization has drawn a line in the sand on this one and its there contention that if Bowers wants to play in the Q, it will be in Cape Breton. Glad to see someone take a stand on this issue, the only unfortunate part is the Eagles have wasted a high draft pick to prove a point. Various ways that the League could put an end to this tail wagging the dog type of situation but I am doubtful if they have the will or appetite to do so.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 31, 2015 12:06:38 GMT -4
Hearing from a source this morning that the Eagles have no intention of trading Bowers this year or any other year. It appears that the organization has drawn a line in the sand on this one and its there contention that if Bowers wants to play in the Q, it will be in Cape Breton. Glad to see someone take a stand on this issue, the only unfortunate part is the Eagles have wasted a high draft pick to prove a point. Various ways that the League could put an end to this tail wagging the dog type of situation but I am doubtful if they have the will or appetite to do so. You say you're glad to see someone take a stand. Can you please explain the benefit to the Eagles current team, management, coaches, and fans to drawing this line? And why now? Why not with Roy or O'Leary? No Dubois if we draw a line with Roy. I really don't see any rule changes coming from the line that'd being drawn, so what is the benefit exactly? As an almost 20 year fan of this league I see no way the league could 'put an end to this' without screwing themselves. So we're drawing a line hoping the league puts rules in to harm the other 17 teams? The more you look at this and think about it the more the Eagles look hopeless and completely lost with this decision. And the timing for it, is absolutely awful, on top of it all. Shouldn't there be an obvious benefit to drawing the line? If Bathurst did this we'd be mocking them to no end. But let's live in our own bubble and ignore the reality the QMJHL creates for us. That logic is why Mario Durocher failed miserably here. What happened to the Dumont of 2 years ago who drafts the kid then trades him for the better of the franchise? This is sour grapes by our management at the end of the day and at the end of it all the CBSE fans are who lose the most.
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Post by Clubber Lang on Aug 31, 2015 12:56:51 GMT -4
Hearing from a source this morning that the Eagles have no intention of trading Bowers this year or any other year. It appears that the organization has drawn a line in the sand on this one and its there contention that if Bowers wants to play in the Q, it will be in Cape Breton. Glad to see someone take a stand on this issue, the only unfortunate part is the Eagles have wasted a high draft pick to prove a point. Various ways that the League could put an end to this tail wagging the dog type of situation but I am doubtful if they have the will or appetite to do so. You say you're glad to see someone take a stand. Can you please explain the benefit to the Eagles current team, management, coaches, and fans to drawing this line? And why now? Why not with Roy or O'Leary? No Dubois if we draw a line with Roy. I really don't see any rule changes coming from the line that'd being drawn, so what is the benefit exactly? As an almost 20 year fan of this league I see no way the league could 'put an end to this' without screwing themselves. So we're drawing a line hoping the league puts rules in to harm the other 17 teams? The more you look at this and think about it the more the Eagles look hopeless and completely lost with this decision. And the timing for it, is absolutely awful, on top of it all. Shouldn't there be an obvious benefit to drawing the line? If Bathurst did this we'd be mocking them to no end. But let's live in our own bubble and ignore the reality the QMJHL creates for us. That logic is why Mario Durocher failed miserably here. What happened to the Dumont of 2 years ago who drafts the kid then trades him for the better of the franchise? This is sour grapes by our management at the end of the day and at the end of it all the CBSE fans are who lose the most. A small market team taking a stance is not going to change anything! I agree with you Jack, Being a fan and especially during this year when you have a decent shot of making some noise one should explore all options not just their own agenda to try and prove a point. It may take some time but if you do not report and based on the rules of the first round (compensation) picks they should still hold for next year. IMO the presidents of each team need to lobby to make this happen as there are way more small market teams in these league and would probably have this passed by a solid majority. One never knows, Bowers may pull a Drouin and all may be forgiven but this is a pretty bad place to be in for the eagles!
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Post by mooseinfo on Aug 31, 2015 13:00:22 GMT -4
Hearing from a source this morning that the Eagles have no intention of trading Bowers this year or any other year. It appears that the organization has drawn a line in the sand on this one and its there contention that if Bowers wants to play in the Q, it will be in Cape Breton. Glad to see someone take a stand on this issue, the only unfortunate part is the Eagles have wasted a high draft pick to prove a point. Various ways that the League could put an end to this tail wagging the dog type of situation but I am doubtful if they have the will or appetite to do so. As a Moosehead's fan Thank You. If correct CB picked a player Halifax was not going to get in the 2015 draft and they are turning down a pick(extra 9th) that is ahead of Moosehead's picks in 2016 draft. Was concerned Halifax might overpay and this stand would ensure that does not happen. Sorry to the CB fans that are not happy with the situation.
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Post by dennisns on Aug 31, 2015 13:06:16 GMT -4
Hearing from a source this morning that the Eagles have no intention of trading Bowers this year or any other year. It appears that the organization has drawn a line in the sand on this one and its there contention that if Bowers wants to play in the Q, it will be in Cape Breton. Glad to see someone take a stand on this issue, the only unfortunate part is the Eagles have wasted a high draft pick to prove a point. Various ways that the League could put an end to this tail wagging the dog type of situation but I am doubtful if they have the will or appetite to do so. They wasted the pick - they were told beforehand he wasn't coming to Cape Breton. If the team still drafted him with the idea they were not going to trade this selection for player(s) that would come, they should have stated "we pass" when it came time for this pick. With prior knowledge, the only way they could have TAKEN this kid was knowing they were trading the pick otherwise a complete waste for the team & the child.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 31, 2015 13:09:12 GMT -4
Hearing from a source this morning that the Eagles have no intention of trading Bowers this year or any other year. It appears that the organization has drawn a line in the sand on this one and its there contention that if Bowers wants to play in the Q, it will be in Cape Breton. Glad to see someone take a stand on this issue, the only unfortunate part is the Eagles have wasted a high draft pick to prove a point. Various ways that the League could put an end to this tail wagging the dog type of situation but I am doubtful if they have the will or appetite to do so. As a Moosehead's fan Thank You. If correct CB picked a player Halifax was not going to get in the 2015 draft and they are turning down a pick(extra 9th) that is ahead of Moosehead's picks in 2016 draft. Was concerned Halifax might overpay and this stand would ensure that does not happen. Sorry to the CB fans that are not happy with the situation. Yeah using an 8th rounder on a flier is one thing. Using the 4th overall pick and taking this stance is really inexcuseable. I always thought that Durocher's big issue in 2010 was only evaluating his team against themselves and not the rest of the division at that time. To waste a 4th overall pick and essentially give away a top 5 is a good example of that again. The rest of the league is laughing at our stance right now because 17 teams benefit from our decision. We are the only one who does not. And the timing makes little to no sense. 2 years ago the entire fan base would have been behind a line in the sand with a 1st overall. We were coming off a last place team due to an entire draft class leaving us high and dry. But this now on the verge of what should be a contending season....just makes no sense. That asset would be strengthening this team, not tossed aside as if it's a league mandated 2nd American picked in round 11.
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Post by billet on Aug 31, 2015 13:16:42 GMT -4
oh yes we passed, then we should of taken the best next , that management is still no good
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Post by dennisns on Aug 31, 2015 15:15:21 GMT -4
oh yes we passed, then we should of taken the best next , that management is still no good If you choose to take that pick when forewarned, then plan to trade it, not waste it. Waste another next year if the same scenario happens ? It doesn't always happen but when it does, its easily resolved for the benefit of all & not the detriment of the team.
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Post by Clubber Lang on Aug 31, 2015 15:48:23 GMT -4
oh yes we passed, then we should of taken the best next , that management is still no good If you choose to take that pick when forewarned, then plan to trade it, not waste it. Waste another next year if the same scenario happens ? It doesn't always happen but when it does, its easily resolved for the benefit of all & not the detriment of the team. i think the eagles fell into this position with Valeno hitting the draft. You take the best player available and they did just that. I don't think Bowers was even on the radar and this was a 24-48 hour panic mode. I think we could have done better by trading it right away to Saint John, Halifax or Moncton if they knew he wasn't going to report.
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Post by emerz on Aug 31, 2015 16:10:00 GMT -4
oh yes we passed, then we should of taken the best next , that management is still no good If you choose to take that pick when forewarned, then plan to trade it, not waste it. Waste another next year if the same scenario happens ? It doesn't always happen but when it does, its easily resolved for the benefit of all & not the detriment of the team. Even if you keep saying it, it doesn't make it true, there was never a 100% chance Bowers wasn't playing for us and I know that for a fact because I've talked to Shane myself and we were talking about how he was excited to get the season started here and a lot more stuff. I wouldn't post this other than the fact that you seem really stubborn in insisting that he had not 1% chance of reporting and its just really not true and its annoying me lol. This was mostly an agent/parent decision. Now I wish Dumont would not be stubborn and just trade the pick, as we have the potential for a championship caliber team this year.
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