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Post by wildwilliesgrampy on Oct 4, 2015 6:58:59 GMT -4
any updates on garlands' condition?
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Post by eaglefan62 on Oct 4, 2015 7:06:41 GMT -4
Just to interject for a bit, if you think Garland doesn't yap at other players you better watch him a little more closely.Its a shame that the kid has to act that way and its unfortunate that he got hurt because he is a talented hockey player but if he continues with this hotdoging and whining act, he will be a target for everyone in the league. As for the comments on it being a dumb call by Rumble to put garland on the ice in that situation, I fully agree that was a stupid move. Then the other side of that is that I don't see where Rumble has much control over Garland, he seems to play when he wants and stay on as long as he wants.Something bad is going to happen here if this continues.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 4, 2015 8:45:03 GMT -4
Just to interject for a bit, if you think Garland doesn't yap at other players you better watch him a little more closely.Its a shame that the kid has to act that way and its unfortunate that he got hurt because he is a talented hockey player but if he continues with this hotdoging and whining act, he will be a target for everyone in the league. As for the comments on it being a dumb call by Rumble to put garland on the ice in that situation, I fully agree that was a stupid move. Then the other side of that is that I don't see where Rumble has much control over Garland, he seems to play when he wants and stay on as long as he wants.Something bad is going to happen here if this continues. You clearly didn't read what I wrote. I see him yapping all the time. But the yapping is two sided. So it's OK for everybody to yap at him ... but not for him to yap back. Nice logic. I've been watching him for what is now his 4th season and I see it every game. Players chirp him and he chirps back. Nobody paid any attention to him until until he became dangerous offensively gifted player. So now players try to get under his skin ... they chirp him ... he chirps back ... he scores and sets up a few goals ... they start running at him ... he keeps chirping. And you blame the victim.
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Post by kuba on Oct 4, 2015 9:27:48 GMT -4
Let's be honest , he has no reason to chirp anybody , and doesn't , unless someone engages him . He has more skill and talent than the majority of the players he's facing . But if they engage him , he loves it and seems to thrive on commenting back . In fact , I honestly feel he thrives on it and builds momentum as the game goes on . In fact , he was recently quoted as saying that he really enjoys hearing fans in opposition Rinks (ie. Halifax ) booing him and he try's even harder to make a great play ! So I think the other teams and their fans are actually fuelling him !
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Post by MLeBlancA on Oct 4, 2015 10:06:47 GMT -4
was there not a rule if you were fighting with under 5 minutes in a 3rd, you cant play next game, what happened to that rule
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Post by wildwilliesgrampy on Oct 4, 2015 10:16:45 GMT -4
any updates on garlands' condition? ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 10:23:37 GMT -4
any updates on garlands' condition? ? He's hoping to be back next weekend.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 4, 2015 10:45:32 GMT -4
was there not a rule if you were fighting with under 5 minutes in a 3rd, you cant play next game, what happened to that rule You get tossed from the game and get a "code 4" assessed. Once you accumulate so many code 4's you get a suspension.
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Post by yoyomamajoe on Oct 4, 2015 11:42:11 GMT -4
I agree thing have gotten out of hand. One thing I don't agree with was the Garland spear in the first game. But like you said slot of tensions are boiling over due to both teams being frustrated. And if intact Martineau took the helmet off by all means suspension. I like the Wildcats organization, I just hope both teams shake this play between each other. Because of both teams decided to play it could be a very skilled game to watch with the talent on both teams Garland doesn't spear anybody if he doesn't have to deal with all the CB garbage all game ... it all goes back to trash hockey brought by CB. Everybody blames Garland for being yappy ... but he just yaps at players that are yapping at him. He gives and takes and keeps it going but he doesn't go out on the ice to start shit ... he just responds to it. He becomes a target because his is so good. It's the matter of the chicken or the egg. Is Garland dirty and nasty because he is always the target? Or is he a target because he is dirty and nasty? There are plenty of star players that let their play speak for itself without having to resort to nasty tricks. Garland might be the most hated player in the maritime division and it is not only because he is an offensive threat. Like I said before, he doesn't need these antics and it is going to cost him in the long run.
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Post by npsh on Oct 4, 2015 11:48:30 GMT -4
I am not interested in commentary on the dog-whistle analysis on this debacle of a hockey game other to say Young Garland could have and indeed did, received a very serious injury. An injury that may/will have repercussions on his future prospects and hockey career. Glad to hear the league stepped in with suspensions/fines to the senior levels on both sides of the fence. Hope the memo is read loud and clear.
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Post by MLeBlancA on Oct 4, 2015 12:08:41 GMT -4
Moncton Wildcats @monctonwildcats 7m7 minutes ago Wildcats Zach MacEwen, Will Bower & Manuel Wiederer all suspended for today's game for incidents that happened Friday vs Screaming Eagles. ah, ok there we go.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 13:05:06 GMT -4
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Post by anaberration on Oct 4, 2015 13:45:32 GMT -4
I think Rumble has to look at himself a bit on this one. By his words they Moncton was playing a "coward team" two days after a 100 PIM game between the same two teams, this game too was obviously dirty and rough and he put Garland out on the PP with a 3 goal lead and less than 5 minutes left. He's pissed that Dumont Is using the Eagles to go after his star when he's the one using Garland to try and embarrass the Eagles. The game was over and that gamble didn't prove to be worth it. Exactly mythoutgh...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 14:28:02 GMT -4
I think Rumble has to look at himself a bit on this one. By his words they Moncton was playing a "coward team" two days after a 100 PIM game between the same two teams, this game too was obviously dirty and rough and he put Garland out on the PP with a 3 goal lead and less than 5 minutes left. He's pissed that Dumont Is using the Eagles to go after his star when he's the one using Garland to try and embarrass the Eagles. The game was over and that gamble didn't prove to be worth it. Hear, hear!
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Post by forrest on Oct 4, 2015 14:58:00 GMT -4
Many people have different opinions on who's to blame.
1. There is a rule against taking one's helmet off. So whatever automatic suspension that is given for that is deserved, but I still don't hold him responsible.
2. Garland is yapping lots, but he also gets yapped at lots. The difference with him is it pumps him up and he produces better as a result. There is no rules against that.
3. Coach didn't start him on the PP. That 30 secs of PP time he was given was probably going to he the last in the final 5-7 minutes of the game. That has to he frustrating for Garland to have his icetime reduced because he producing too much... which might be why he dropped the gloves. He figured it was his last shift amyway.
4. Garland missed part of training camp and the first few games. It has already been rumored in the past that he is not yhe most liked player in the dressing room. Maybe he wanted to prove to his teammates that he could take one for the team... if that's the case he failed miserably.
5. We can blame the league for all the rules to crack down on fighting and let the players police themselves, but before 5-6 years ago, we would see knockouts in fights 2 or 3 times a year... or with a big hit. The difference is it wasn't the best players that were usually fighting.
My opinion about this... the ref didn't have a bad game. It was simply tough to call with the shit show Cape Breton brought to the rink. But at the end of a game, when there is a 3 goals lead, on a night with so many dirty hits, the refs should have recognize the situation and have zero tolerance on the cross checks that were given to Garland.
Every argument is worthy of discussion, but i think the refs at that specific moment are the ones to take most of the blame. As I said i still think they had a good game overall.
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