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Post by joehockey on Nov 27, 2015 23:35:47 GMT -4
1st in their division and they have the leagues leading scorer. You either contend or sell from that position. We are pretend good. If the rest of our division could play up to their talent level we'd be in 4th in the division. We are only 1st in the division because SJ, PEI and CB have been disappointing. I have no illusions of how good this team is ... simply not a contender. We could spend to get a goaltender but still be a pretender. I've seen some great teams in Moncton over the years and this isn't one of them. This is where I'm at as well. Cape Breton and Saint John both have more talent than Moncton and even if Moncton added a top goalie at Christmas I'm not confident that they would beat either in a series when it comes to playoffs. I personally think Moncton at most tinkers with the lineup and doesn't make any really big moves in either direction and they may still be able to hold onto the division lead. I could see Moncton maybe adding Foulem to compete with Dupre since he is a local kid and seems to be competing for the backup job in Shawinigan and Shawinigan seems to be a team that could target one of the better goalies to bring in and start for them thus making at least one of Foulem, Samuel or Denisov expendable. I'm not saying it would be a great move but I think that is more likely than Moncton bringing in a guy like Billia or a 20 year old goalie. I'm not sure if it was Joseph leaving (did he handle the defence?) but it seems like Holwell is the only defenceman who hasn't taken a step back from last year. I wouldn't mind Moncton getting rid of either Klebanskyj, Glaessl, or both and let Tesink and the new free agent actually get regular ice time.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 28, 2015 12:56:32 GMT -4
We are pretend good. If the rest of our division could play up to their talent level we'd be in 4th in the division. We are only 1st in the division because SJ, PEI and CB have been disappointing. I have no illusions of how good this team is ... simply not a contender. We could spend to get a goaltender but still be a pretender. I've seen some great teams in Moncton over the years and this isn't one of them. This is where I'm at as well. Cape Breton and Saint John both have more talent than Moncton and even if Moncton added a top goalie at Christmas I'm not confident that they would beat either in a series when it comes to playoffs. I personally think Moncton at most tinkers with the lineup and doesn't make any really big moves in either direction and they may still be able to hold onto the division lead. I could see Moncton maybe adding Foulem to compete with Dupre since he is a local kid and seems to be competing for the backup job in Shawinigan and Shawinigan seems to be a team that could target one of the better goalies to bring in and start for them thus making at least one of Foulem, Samuel or Denisov expendable. I'm not saying it would be a great move but I think that is more likely than Moncton bringing in a guy like Billia or a 20 year old goalie. I'm not sure if it was Joseph leaving (did he handle the defence?) but it seems like Holwell is the only defenceman who hasn't taken a step back from last year. I wouldn't mind Moncton getting rid of either Klebanskyj, Glaessl, or both and let Tesink and the new free agent actually get regular ice time. The problem with contending with this defense is that you usually need 5 top 4 calibre d-men...which is what happened in 2006 and 2010. You can also see it in recent winners and top contenders. At this point the only sure fire top 4 calibre guys are Holwell and Sweeney. Kosack hass been solid but his OA spot might be where you look for that stud #1 or 2 guy that is needed. At worse you need 2 top 4 calibre non OA's plus a starting calibre goalie wile probably adding a top 6 forward. that's a lot of shopping!
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Post by lirette on Nov 28, 2015 16:38:31 GMT -4
Also, Glassl will be leaving soon to play for Germany at the World Juniors. Strange day ... we add two Dmen with one being an OA. We have 7 on the roster with Sweeney currently injured. Tesink has played well when given icetime and deserves to play. Kosack has looked good. We add Coulombe and Mooney and I doubt Mooney is coming in to sit if he is giving up NCAA options. As mentioned. .. Glassl will be away for awhile ... and Sweeney out for a bit longer. But that still leaves 7 available dmen ... and Tesink probably on the outside looking in. Coulombe is likely a Temp. Could they maybe tell Glassl to stay home after Xmas ... he has been hit and miss. If they do that then we are back drafting 2 more next year ... something you'd like to avoid. Perhaps theres an opportunity to bring back Weiderer as 20 YO next season. If you look at his season so far its pretty comparable to a guy like Jevpalovs was at 19. Both around a PPG 1st line players, both played with smaller skilled players (Martel/Garland). Both guys are from weaker countries in terms of hockey. Weiderer may want to head back to play in the German pro leagues or perhaps he signs with someone and goes pro in NA. Jevpalovs came back and was dominant in his 20 year old season. If Weiderer could even produce at 80% of what Jevpalovs did I believe he'd be worth taking up 2 spots. Looking at the 20 YO next season we have Smith/Malatesta/Klebanskysj/MacEwan/Garland(unlikely). I think you only keep 2 of those 5, probably the first 2. Its getting harder to get 2 quality Euro's and the Cats 2nd pick will likely again be very late. I like the idea of Keeping Weiderer and drafting a 17 YO with the 1st round pick.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Nov 30, 2015 16:46:15 GMT -4
But once he was in the OHL and played wouldnt they then essentially own him and he goes back on OHL waivers before being able to go elsewhere? I don't think OA's go on waivers through a league. They are FA's to go where they want...at least as I understand it. He was in calgary, so if he had waivers it would be WHL not OHL... Just as a follow up to this...it says on the OHL site that Burke was claimed on CHL waivers by Guelph and then traded to London. www.ontariohockeyleague.com/page/media-notesSo absolutely nothing the Cats could have done there.
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Dec 1, 2015 17:24:44 GMT -4
Moncton should go after a really good goalie and go for it ! So far except RN no team really stands out or seems to be going for it, Moncton is as good or better than most and deep up front, yeah the backend needs to be shored up but if you have a great goalie nothing wrong with a run and gun team ! Seems like no QMJHL teams are really built to win it this year.(St. John should be contenders next year) Lets go for it !!
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Dec 1, 2015 18:00:41 GMT -4
Looks like Cape Breton is making things interesting, just picked up Joly from Rimouski for a 1st and 2 2nds
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 1, 2015 18:04:15 GMT -4
Looks like Cape Breton is making things interesting, just picked up Joly from Rimouski for a 1st and 2 2nds Get out of town.
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Post by bmiller on Dec 1, 2015 18:28:14 GMT -4
Moncton should go after a really good goalie and go for it ! So far except RN no team really stands out or seems to be going for it, Moncton is as good or better than most and deep up front, yeah the backend needs to be shored up but if you have a great goalie nothing wrong with a run and gun team ! Seems like no QMJHL teams are really built to win it this year.(St. John should be contenders next year) Lets go for it !! are you ready to sacrifice Mika Cyr and a 1st round for Montembault or Billia? keeps in mind : Cyr and the 1st round should be important players for the first year in the new building.
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Post by leftwinglock on Dec 1, 2015 20:54:59 GMT -4
Moncton should go after a really good goalie and go for it ! So far except RN no team really stands out or seems to be going for it, Moncton is as good or better than most and deep up front, yeah the backend needs to be shored up but if you have a great goalie nothing wrong with a run and gun team ! Seems like no QMJHL teams are really built to win it this year.(St. John should be contenders next year) Lets go for it !! are you ready to sacrifice Mika Cyr and a 1st round for Montembault or Billia? keeps in mind : Cyr and the 1st round should be important players for the first year in the new building. not to mention the pick anyone would want would be victo's ( hopefully a top 5 pick) I say sell # 8 to cape Breton for a ransom and send sweeney out the same way we got him... ( dan Milan for Sweeney and emond type trade)
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 2, 2015 8:38:55 GMT -4
The Cats should have kept Beaton ahead of Fortin, he's at 30 points in 30 games for Quebec...what did we get for him?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 8:58:05 GMT -4
The Cats should have kept Beaton ahead of Fortin, he's at 30 points in 30 games for Quebec...what did we get for him? The Cats should have drafted Andrey Makarov! He had a 2.62 GAA in 61 games with Saskatoon!!!! Some things you just can't predict. Get over it. And plus, Beaton is getting top line minutes plus PP time. He wouldn't be getting the same treatment in Moncton. At this point, you're basically comparing apples to oranges.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 2, 2015 9:05:24 GMT -4
Moncton should go after a really good goalie and go for it ! So far except RN no team really stands out or seems to be going for it, Moncton is as good or better than most and deep up front, yeah the backend needs to be shored up but if you have a great goalie nothing wrong with a run and gun team ! Seems like no QMJHL teams are really built to win it this year.(St. John should be contenders next year) Lets go for it !! are you ready to sacrifice Mika Cyr and a 1st round for Montembault or Billia? keeps in mind : Cyr and the 1st round should be important players for the first year in the new building. You either have to go for it or rebuild, this is likely Garland's last year, go big or sell. As far as the new building, things should be fine even if you buy this year. It gives you two years to restock the cupboards for 2018-2019.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 3, 2015 8:20:19 GMT -4
From what I have seen, Mooney looks really solid. Moves the puck well with good poise and is usually in good position defensively for a 17 year old, looks like a solid addition.
Ideally he and Tesink are the #6 and 7 guys.
If the WC are serious about going for it, you have Sweeney Kosack Holwell then you need a legit #2 calibre d-man. you can live with Malatesta as #5. Klebanskyj and Coulombe have to go. Not sure where Glassl fits?
Sweeney-Kosack Trade-Holwell Malatesta-Mooney/Tesink
Otherwise if you sell, you move Sweeney plus Malatesta and Klebanskyj and play Tesink and Mooney in your top 6 and hopefully bring in a promising 16 year old d-man as #7 plus a 17 year old for the top 6.Again, I don't see a spot for Glassl...
Holwell-Kosack Mooney-Coulombe Tesink-trade trade
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 8:29:26 GMT -4
From what I have seen, Mooney looks really solid. Moves the puck well with good poise and is usually in good position defensively for a 17 year old, looks like a solid addition. Ideally he and Tesink are the #6 and 7 guys. If the WC are serious about going for it, you have Sweeney Kosack Holwell then you need a legit #2 calibre d-man. you can live with Malatesta as #5. Klebanskyj and Coulombe have to go. Not sure where Glassl fits? Sweeney-Kosack Trade-Holwell Malatesta-Mooney/Tesink Otherwise if you sell, you move Sweeney plus Malatesta and Klebanskyj and play Tesink and Mooney in your top 6 and hopefully bring in a promising 16 year old d-man as #7 plus a 17 year old for the top 6.Again, I don't see a spot for Glassl... Holwell-Kosack Mooney-Coulombe Tesink-trade trade Why trade for a promosing 16 year old d-man when we have one already in Alex Lavoie? Just call him up from Dieppe.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 3, 2015 8:34:31 GMT -4
From what I have seen, Mooney looks really solid. Moves the puck well with good poise and is usually in good position defensively for a 17 year old, looks like a solid addition. Ideally he and Tesink are the #6 and 7 guys. If the WC are serious about going for it, you have Sweeney Kosack Holwell then you need a legit #2 calibre d-man. you can live with Malatesta as #5. Klebanskyj and Coulombe have to go. Not sure where Glassl fits? Sweeney-Kosack Trade-Holwell Malatesta-Mooney/Tesink Otherwise if you sell, you move Sweeney plus Malatesta and Klebanskyj and play Tesink and Mooney in your top 6 and hopefully bring in a promising 16 year old d-man as #7 plus a 17 year old for the top 6.Again, I don't see a spot for Glassl... Holwell-Kosack Mooney-Coulombe Tesink-trade trade Why trade for a promosing 16 year old d-man when we have one already in Alex Lavoie? Just call him up from Dieppe. Lavoie is playing lots in Dieppe. I don't see why we can only have one promising 16 year old. I'd rather have 2 or 3. The defense needs to be rebuilt.
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