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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 22, 2019 8:29:32 GMT -4
Not a lot to talk about so far but it should pick up soon.
I like the Caufield pick, he's a guy that should arrive pretty quick, maybe as early as 2020 if he tears it up NCAA. the best pure scorer in the draft, size is not ideal, but it's easier to find size than skill, plus they have 3 centers above 6' in Danault JKK and Poehling.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 22, 2019 8:59:54 GMT -4
Anyone else hear a rumour about Letang to the Habs? I didn't see it published anywhere, but a friend told me they heard it ... depending on the cost, it could make sense ... hometown boy, Habs have cap space, Pittsburgh needs to free up space, Habs could use a d-man ... but does he have anything left in the tank?
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Post by hal on Jun 22, 2019 9:31:31 GMT -4
I thought for sure they were gonna take Lavoie , seeing Poulin and Pelletier go ahead of him was surprising .
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Post by mathew34 on Jun 22, 2019 11:40:50 GMT -4
I thought for sure they were gonna take Lavoie , seeing Poulin and Pelletier go ahead of him was surprising . Why Poulin and Pelletier are complete players. Lavoie is Marty frk 2.0. Habs got an absolute steal in cole.
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Post by hal on Jun 22, 2019 13:11:05 GMT -4
All the Mock Drafts had him going to Montreal or Pittsburgh at 21 .
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 22, 2019 21:05:34 GMT -4
Anyone else hear a rumour about Letang to the Habs? I didn't see it published anywhere, but a friend told me they heard it ... depending on the cost, it could make sense ... hometown boy, Habs have cap space, Pittsburgh needs to free up space, Habs could use a d-man ... but does he have anything left in the tank? The reasons I would not touch Letang… 1-7.25M for 3 more years for a guy always hurt 2-as per #1, he's only missed less than 10 games once in the last 8 years and is 32 3-he is a RH d-man and they already have Petry and weber, they need help on the let side. 4-not only that but he would cost assets.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 22, 2019 21:07:43 GMT -4
I thought for sure they were gonna take Lavoie , seeing Poulin and Pelletier go ahead of him was surprising . The playoffs is the only thing Lavoie had going for him, but teams were not buying. What was against him was mediocre regular season production for a guy who was 10 days from being 2018 eligible. He was also a non factor at the MC. I'm not surprised he slid, a but surprised he slid that far. He will either be a top 6 forward or end up the Wojtek Wolski route and be in Europe at 23-24.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 22, 2019 21:08:30 GMT -4
I thought for sure they were gonna take Lavoie , seeing Poulin and Pelletier go ahead of him was surprising . Lavoie, other than being from Quebec, does not fit the type of player the Habs draft.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 23, 2019 7:16:03 GMT -4
Anyone else hear a rumour about Letang to the Habs? I didn't see it published anywhere, but a friend told me they heard it ... depending on the cost, it could make sense ... hometown boy, Habs have cap space, Pittsburgh needs to free up space, Habs could use a d-man ... but does he have anything left in the tank? The reasons I would not touch Letang… 1-7.25M for 3 more years for a guy always hurt 2-as per #1, he's only missed less than 10 games once in the last 8 years and is 32 3-he is a RH d-man and they already have Petry and weber, they need help on the let side. 4-not only that but he would cost assets. $7.25 mill for 3 years is actually not a bad contract for a top pair d-man ... injuries are a concern, no doubt, but when he plays, he is still elite - 208 pts in 256 games over the last 4 years. The 3 years of term left would line up nicely with what is left of Price and Weber's prime years. I didn't bother to check to see what side he played ... obviously his being RH is less than ideal, but if I am not mistaken, isn't right side d-men what teams are usually (Habs apparently aside) desparate to find? And one way to shore up the left side of your D, albeit indirectly, would be to pair them with an elite right side partner. As for asset costs, yes there would no doubt be some ... but Pittsburgh seems to always be in need of cap space, so perhaps it becomes a cap dump situation to some extent (like Subban, Miller, Marleau - though perhaps not as extreme). We had a crazy number of forwards have career years last year - I am going to go out on a limb and suggest some of them revert back to their regular performance level next season (looking at guys like Shaw, Tatar, Byron) - maybe sell high on one of them, packaged with picks/second tier prospects. I think it is worthy of exploration at least ...
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Post by moosefan1994 on Jun 23, 2019 9:18:45 GMT -4
I thought for sure they were gonna take Lavoie , seeing Poulin and Pelletier go ahead of him was surprising . The playoffs is the only thing Lavoie had going for him, but teams were not buying. What was against him was mediocre regular season production for a guy who was 10 days from being 2018 eligible. He was also a non factor at the MC. I'm not surprised he slid, a but surprised he slid that far. He will either be a top 6 forward or end up the Wojtek Wolski route and be in Europe at 23-24. A non-factor at the Memorial Cup? You obviously didn’t watch any of the Mooseheads games in that tournament.
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Post by mathew34 on Jun 23, 2019 11:42:33 GMT -4
The playoffs is the only thing Lavoie had going for him, but teams were not buying. What was against him was mediocre regular season production for a guy who was 10 days from being 2018 eligible. He was also a non factor at the MC. I'm not surprised he slid, a but surprised he slid that far. He will either be a top 6 forward or end up the Wojtek Wolski route and be in Europe at 23-24. A non-factor at the Memorial Cup? You obviously didn’t watch any of the Mooseheads games in that tournament. [br Pretty sure all the scouts saw the memorial cup that’s why his stock dropped. He had one nice goal in the tournament. Was an absolute no show in the title game . No compete level .
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Post by moosefan1994 on Jun 23, 2019 22:47:20 GMT -4
A non-factor at the Memorial Cup? You obviously didn’t watch any of the Mooseheads games in that tournament. [br Pretty sure all the scouts saw the memorial cup that’s why his stock dropped. He had one nice goal in the tournament. Was an absolute no show in the title game . No compete level . Umm I’m pretty sure it was Lavoie who scored the Mooseheads 2nd goal in that championship game so to say he was an absolute no show in that game really decreases what is left of your credibility on Lavoie... your credibility was already hanging by a thread after saying he was Frk 2.0
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 24, 2019 6:08:18 GMT -4
The playoffs is the only thing Lavoie had going for him, but teams were not buying. What was against him was mediocre regular season production for a guy who was 10 days from being 2018 eligible. He was also a non factor at the MC. I'm not surprised he slid, a but surprised he slid that far. He will either be a top 6 forward or end up the Wojtek Wolski route and be in Europe at 23-24. A non-factor at the Memorial Cup? You obviously didn’t watch any of the Mooseheads games in that tournament. I watched all the gams.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 24, 2019 6:17:11 GMT -4
The reasons I would not touch Letang… 1-7.25M for 3 more years for a guy always hurt 2-as per #1, he's only missed less than 10 games once in the last 8 years and is 32 3-he is a RH d-man and they already have Petry and weber, they need help on the let side. 4-not only that but he would cost assets. $7.25 mill for 3 years is actually not a bad contract for a top pair d-man ... injuries are a concern, no doubt, but when he plays, he is still elite - 208 pts in 256 games over the last 4 years. The 3 years of term left would line up nicely with what is left of Price and Weber's prime years. I didn't bother to check to see what side he played ... obviously his being RH is less than ideal, but if I am not mistaken, isn't right side d-men what teams are usually (Habs apparently aside) desparate to find? And one way to shore up the left side of your D, albeit indirectly, would be to pair them with an elite right side partner. As for asset costs, yes there would no doubt be some ... but Pittsburgh seems to always be in need of cap space, so perhaps it becomes a cap dump situation to some extent (like Subban, Miller, Marleau - though perhaps not as extreme). We had a crazy number of forwards have career years last year - I am going to go out on a limb and suggest some of them revert back to their regular performance level next season (looking at guys like Shaw, Tatar, Byron) - maybe sell high on one of them, packaged with picks/second tier prospects. I think it is worthy of exploration at least ... I just don't see the benefit. 3 years left at 7+ M for a guy who's missed 130 games the last 6 years with a wide variety of injuries and ailments.
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Post by mathew34 on Jun 24, 2019 6:49:29 GMT -4
Umm I’m pretty sure it was Lavoie who scored the Mooseheads 2nd goal in that championship game so to say he was an absolute no show in that game really decreases what is left of your credibility on Lavoie... your credibility was already hanging by a thread after saying he was Frk 2.0 How is he not Marty Frk 2.0? Perimeter player with a great shot Doesn’t go to the dirty areas. Time will tell I guess.
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