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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 10, 2019 14:40:24 GMT -4
Why does it matter when it happened? Just making a point that a desperate GM is not a good thing. I’m sure I could have scoured the league and found examples over the last 4-5 years. I just posted Habs ones. It matters because a GM in charge for say 12 years making 2 moves 11 and 10 years ago doesn't prove he's rushing anything when the moves also preceded playoff success. Alzner was a depth FA signing. Not depth as in 7th Dman but depth as in an average veteran FA given a veteran FA contract. Wasn't earth shattering money wise...just paid a premium for what he was. But $4.625 as a cap hit isn't any panic move or rushing anything. It was signing a #4 guy that turned out to be a #6 in your organization due to lacking the talent around him which made him so good elsewhere. Using Alex Tanguay, Scott Gomez, and a #4 defenceman FA signing to prove Montreal is or has rushed anything in 2019 is just pathetic. You'd have albatross cap hits and nothing in the system if you were rushing anything. The only thing you're exposing is your own lack of patience while trying to prove they're rushing anything to tell you the truth. Scouting for more examples might be a better way to proving your point. The time factor is a non factor, I was just pointing out 3 moves from the Habs fairly recent past where the GM was a bit to desperate to make a difference and it blew up in his face. I would prefer not packaging 2-3 good prospects for immediate return. The main problem for the Habs in the Bergevin regime is they had a bunch of bad drafts that derailed their plan to add from within…after 2007, they had too many misses. The only impact guys they drafted from 2008 to 2014(7 drafts) are Gallagher and Galchenyuk(3rd overall pick). The track record looks better the last few years, but that stretch they traded away too many picks and reached for size on many others.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 10, 2019 15:01:25 GMT -4
It matters because a GM in charge for say 12 years making 2 moves 11 and 10 years ago doesn't prove he's rushing anything when the moves also preceded playoff success. Alzner was a depth FA signing. Not depth as in 7th Dman but depth as in an average veteran FA given a veteran FA contract. Wasn't earth shattering money wise...just paid a premium for what he was. But $4.625 as a cap hit isn't any panic move or rushing anything. It was signing a #4 guy that turned out to be a #6 in your organization due to lacking the talent around him which made him so good elsewhere. Using Alex Tanguay, Scott Gomez, and a #4 defenceman FA signing to prove Montreal is or has rushed anything in 2019 is just pathetic. You'd have albatross cap hits and nothing in the system if you were rushing anything. The only thing you're exposing is your own lack of patience while trying to prove they're rushing anything to tell you the truth. Scouting for more examples might be a better way to proving your point. The time factor is a non factor, I was just pointing out 3 moves from the Habs fairly recent past where the GM was a bit to desperate to make a difference and it blew up in his face. I would prefer not packaging 2-3 good prospects for immediate return. The main problem for the Habs in the Bergevin regime is they had a bunch of bad drafts that derailed their plan to add from within…after 2007, they had too many misses. The only impact guys they drafted from 2008 to 2014(7 drafts) are Gallagher and Galchenyuk(3rd overall pick). The track record looks better the last few years, but that stretch they traded away too many picks and reached for size on many others. Fairly recent past isn't 10+ years ago under a completely different regime on a completely different team skill and depth wise. Time factor is only a non-factor when you want an entire decade plus to just blend together as if it's all an 18 month period.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 10, 2019 15:04:16 GMT -4
The time factor is a non factor, I was just pointing out 3 moves from the Habs fairly recent past where the GM was a bit to desperate to make a difference and it blew up in his face. I would prefer not packaging 2-3 good prospects for immediate return. The main problem for the Habs in the Bergevin regime is they had a bunch of bad drafts that derailed their plan to add from within…after 2007, they had too many misses. The only impact guys they drafted from 2008 to 2014(7 drafts) are Gallagher and Galchenyuk(3rd overall pick). The track record looks better the last few years, but that stretch they traded away too many picks and reached for size on many others. Fairly recent past isn't 10+ years ago under a completely different regime on a completely different team skill and depth wise. Time factor is only a non-factor when you want an entire decade plus to just blend together as if it's all an 18 month period. Again, who cares what regime it was, I’m pointing out moves that I saw as panic moves. That’s the point, not that one regime was/is better or worse.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 17, 2019 8:19:32 GMT -4
Entertaining game to watch last night, a couple of great saves by Primeau…it’s scary how similar he looks to Price at the same age.
Fleury seems to have made big strides from last year, moves really well and moved the puck, can also deliver big hits.
Evans with a nice SH game winner. Cousins looked good, he will be a real asset on the 4th line, does everything pretty well and will have his share of points. Suzuki was a bit invisible, the pace of the NHL game will be an adjustment. Same for Brook though he was better in the 3rd than 1st.
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Post by Score on Sept 18, 2019 18:59:08 GMT -4
How many Fins are on the Habs roster?
Jeez.....offer sheet Laine MB!
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Post by Score on Sept 20, 2019 11:13:34 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 20, 2019 11:19:30 GMT -4
Well that sucks. I saw him get hit and leave the ice Wednesday, must be where it happened.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 24, 2019 9:55:56 GMT -4
For all the kids that have looked great so far in Habs camp(Primeau Evans Suzuki Poehling Fleury), one guy that has not is Kotkaniemi, they have been saying he is up to 200lbs(from 185 last year) and it looks like it was doing the Trump diet of McDonalds and KFC, he looks slow and lethargic with no legs after 20 seconds. HE might need to start in Laval if Poehling is healthy to start the year.
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Post by hal on Sept 24, 2019 11:08:53 GMT -4
For all the kids that have looked great so far in Habs camp(Primeau Evans Suzuki Poehling Fleury), one guy that has not is Kotkaniemi, they have been saying he is up to 200lbs(from 185 last year) and it looks like it was doing the Trump diet of McDonalds and KFC, he looks slow and lethargic with no legs after 20 seconds. HE might need to start in Laval if Poehling is healthy to start the year. That will make Bergevin happy .
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Post by Score on Sept 29, 2019 9:17:13 GMT -4
That Patches/Vegas deal looks better every day.
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Post by dogsfan1978 on Sept 29, 2019 9:27:56 GMT -4
That Patches/Vegas deal looks better every day. I haven’t seen a lot of Suzuki but what I’ve seen has been positive and Tatar has been good too!
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Post by Score on Sept 29, 2019 12:13:32 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 29, 2019 12:27:21 GMT -4
It's likely Poehling or Fleury as Reilly and Folin would require waivers.
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Post by Score on Oct 1, 2019 11:05:55 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 1, 2019 13:05:44 GMT -4
He's better off playing more than 10-12 minutes on the 4th line.
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