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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 19, 2019 11:54:14 GMT -4
Are you talking about the right Merkley, not the one in SJ(Ryan) who dropped due to off ice “baggage” ? Nick Merkley has had a lot of injuries and this season he only has 16 points in 26 games in his 3rd AHL year, his career is at a crossroads. IMO he is not a main part of the deal. The two main assets are the 1st rounder(top 3 protected) and Bahl. Merkley seems like a guy NJ is buying low on hoping a change of scenery will help him. I think it’s a piss poor return for pulling the trigger on a deal this early. You’re gonna get a prospect like Bahl, a 1st and conditional 1st at the deadline no matter what. The other players involved are throw ins and non-legit NHLers. It’s a rental price but I just don’t get why they’re moving so quickly on a deal that’s shit. I think the main reason they moved him early is to rip the band aid off, Hall was a lame duck player there and apparently there were things off ice where the wives had a party for them or something. At the end of the day, I doubt they were getting more for hall and the situation would have gotten more uneasy.
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Post by jimmy on Dec 19, 2019 12:05:40 GMT -4
Here is something to ponder that would have been laughable a couple of years ago ... long term, do the Oilers win the Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall trade?
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Post by bois on Dec 19, 2019 12:25:07 GMT -4
Here is something to ponder that would have been laughable a couple of years ago ... long term, do the Oilers win the Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall trade? what would have been laughable would have been had the Oilers trumped Arizona and reacquired Hall Hall's MVP season and New Jersey unexpected playoff berth that year wins that trade for them IMO
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Post by jimmy on Dec 19, 2019 12:37:25 GMT -4
Here is something to ponder that would have been laughable a couple of years ago ... long term, do the Oilers win the Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall trade? what would have been laughable would have been had the Oilers trumped Arizona and reacquired Hall Hall's MVP season and New Jersey unexpected playoff berth that year wins that trade for them IMO I would agree at this point they are still ahead ... but if Larsson continues to be a heart and soul big minute top 4 d-man for many years to come in Edmonton, at some point the pendulum may swing in their favour - which you would have been laughed at for even suggesting a year ago. I am starting to think that it may not be a coincidence that Hall has one playoff game win to his name ten years into his career.
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Dec 19, 2019 12:42:13 GMT -4
Here is something to ponder that would have been laughable a couple of years ago ... long term, do the Oilers win the Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall trade? Sure. Hell one could argue the Larsson trade was a win after year one. The Oilers had gone 10 straight years missing the playoffs before acquiring Larsson. Then they made the playoffs and won a round. The Oilers couldn't do that in 6 years of Taylor Hall. Individually Hall had that one monster year in NJ, but they had very little team success in his time there. Hockey is a team sport. Hall is now gone from NJ. Larsson is still in EDM. I'm just playing the other side of the coin here. I don't think either team can really consider that trade a win. It didn't accomplish what either side was hoping. NJ could end up winning the deal...if the assets they recently acquired for Hall turn into something special.
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Post by bois on Dec 19, 2019 13:22:07 GMT -4
Here is something to ponder that would have been laughable a couple of years ago ... long term, do the Oilers win the Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall trade? Sure. Hell one could argue the Larsson trade was a win after year one. The Oilers had gone 10 straight years missing the playoffs before acquiring Larsson. Then they made the playoffs and won a round. The Oilers couldn't do that in 6 years of Taylor Hall. Individually Hall had that one monster year in NJ, but they had very little team success in his time there. Hockey is a team sport. Hall is now gone from NJ. Larsson is still in EDM. I'm just playing the other side of the coin here. I don't think either team can really consider that trade a win. It didn't accomplish what either side was hoping. NJ could end up winning the deal...if the assets they recently acquired for Hall turn into something special. New Jersey made the playoffs the year Hall had his monster season..... that's team success they also won the draft lottery the year Hall had to shut it down for most of the season Larsson has very little to do with Edmonton's success ... he's played 15 games and registered one assist and a -7 this year neither team won anything during their times as of yet...... each had one playoff berth New Jersey acquired Hall for scoring he delivered that 208 points in 211 games and an MVP Ednmonton wanted to shore up the defense but Larsson is pretty much a second par dman.... he slots behind Nurse and Klefbom and in the near future probably Bear maybe Jones and Bouchard anyways fun debate
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Dec 19, 2019 15:17:08 GMT -4
Sure. Hell one could argue the Larsson trade was a win after year one. The Oilers had gone 10 straight years missing the playoffs before acquiring Larsson. Then they made the playoffs and won a round. The Oilers couldn't do that in 6 years of Taylor Hall. Individually Hall had that one monster year in NJ, but they had very little team success in his time there. Hockey is a team sport. Hall is now gone from NJ. Larsson is still in EDM. I'm just playing the other side of the coin here. I don't think either team can really consider that trade a win. It didn't accomplish what either side was hoping. NJ could end up winning the deal...if the assets they recently acquired for Hall turn into something special. New Jersey made the playoffs the year Hall had his monster season..... that's team success they also won the draft lottery the year Hall had to shut it down for most of the season Larsson has very little to do with Edmonton's success ... he's played 15 games and registered one assist and a -7 this year neither team won anything during their times as of yet...... each had one playoff berth New Jersey acquired Hall for scoring he delivered that 208 points in 211 games and an MVP Ednmonton wanted to shore up the defense but Larsson is pretty much a second par dman.... he slots behind Nurse and Klefbom and in the near future probably Bear maybe Jones and Bouchard anyways fun debate EDM won a playoff round. NJ won a playoff game. Larsson > Hall. In all seriousness I'd rather have Hall over Larsson thats a no brainer really. For both teams though the trade never worked out as hoped and in that regard is probably equally disappointing for both sides. We hear of trades where both teams win but in this case did we have a trade where both teams lost?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 23, 2019 12:22:14 GMT -4
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Post by bois on Dec 23, 2019 12:47:03 GMT -4
Hall's looking good so far in Arizona
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Post by Mika on Dec 28, 2019 21:51:30 GMT -4
Was watching the Caps game tonight. Why does Carolina have a team? The fans there have no clue what's going on. They'll boo anything against their team and play victim for anything they instigate. It's embarrassing to watch.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 8, 2020 15:14:31 GMT -4
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Post by Mika on Jan 8, 2020 15:17:46 GMT -4
Another Caps win. Ovi ties Selanne for goals, and he sits I think 10 behind Lemieux.
Samsonov is improving every game too. I was mad at first that they passed on Boeser in the draft, but he's quickly changing my mind.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 10, 2020 10:19:07 GMT -4
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Post by bois on Jan 10, 2020 10:23:33 GMT -4
pretty cool this morning getting to show my son a goalie shooting the puck into the other teams net ...... he was too young to appreciate it last time it happened..... and this sort of brought back my memories of seeing Hextall do it as a young boy in wonderment of the concept
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Post by MikeC on Jan 10, 2020 19:57:55 GMT -4
pretty cool this morning getting to show my son a goalie shooting the puck into the other teams net ...... he was too young to appreciate it last time it happened..... and this sort of brought back my memories of seeing Hextall do it as a young boy in wonderment of the concept I was in 5th place in a hockey pool with nearly 1200 people until last night. Goalie goals are worth 50 points and I don't have Rinne.
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