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Post by hal on Sept 30, 2022 10:13:36 GMT -4
Just came back from Sydney , Best Decision ever to cancel tonight's game . I am not even convinced that by October 5th's game that everyone will have Power . Let's hope that the Downtown Traffic Lights are all operational by then . If they are not , seeing as Victoriaville is the Visiting Team they should look at playing the Game at Membertou , who is Fully Operational .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 30, 2022 10:38:05 GMT -4
Just came back from Sydney , Best Decision ever to cancel tonight's game . I am not even convinced that by October 5th's game that everyone will have Power . Let's hope that the Downtown Traffic Lights are all operational by then . If they are not , seeing as Victoriaville is the Visiting Team they should look at playing the Game at Membertou , who is Fully Operational . I disagree with that idea. C200 should be fine for that game. You can't base the decision by the fact some intersections may still have no power for traffic lights. A majority are getting back on over the last 48 hours and will be back to normal by Monday. The insanity over gas stations is already over. By next week there's no reason a game can't be played at C200.
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Sept 30, 2022 10:42:37 GMT -4
Just came back from Sydney , Best Decision ever to cancel tonight's game . I am not even convinced that by October 5th's game that everyone will have Power . Let's hope that the Downtown Traffic Lights are all operational by then . If they are not , seeing as Victoriaville is the Visiting Team they should look at playing the Game at Membertou , who is Fully Operational . I disagree with that idea. C200 should be fine for that game. You can't base the decision by the fact some intersections may still have no power for traffic lights. A majority are getting back on over the last 48 hours and will be back to normal by Monday. The insanity over gas stations is already over. By next week there's no reason a game can't be played at C200.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 30, 2022 10:54:24 GMT -4
I disagree with that idea. C200 should be fine for that game. You can't base the decision by the fact some intersections may still have no power for traffic lights. A majority are getting back on over the last 48 hours and will be back to normal by Monday. The insanity over gas stations is already over. By next week there's no reason a game can't be played at C200. Erring on the side of caution I guess. I think it could have went on with no issue. I fully expect school to be back on Monday and most people to be back to their normal routine. And yes I know there's still X% without power but that number is getting lower every day.
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Post by hal on Sept 30, 2022 11:13:41 GMT -4
I disagree with that idea. C200 should be fine for that game. You can't base the decision by the fact some intersections may still have no power for traffic lights. A majority are getting back on over the last 48 hours and will be back to normal by Monday. The insanity over gas stations is already over. By next week there's no reason a game can't be played at C200. Not Surprised at all .......No Traffic Lights on one of the busiest streets in Sydney that also happens to be where C200 is located is a Royal Pain ......some young and also some older Driver's still do not know how to proceed by law through a 4 way Stop . Maybe it's an ice plant issue ? .....Maybe it's a Hotel Room issue ? More Military are on there way ........maybe it's just a Wise ....Safe ....Common Sense Approach to the Big Picture.....that may be bigger than we realize .....not being High Up in that Inner Circle . I myself applaud the Q for this Move .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 30, 2022 11:24:13 GMT -4
Not Surprised at all .......No Traffic Lights on one of the busiest streets in Sydney that also happens to be where C200 is located is a Royal Pain ......some young and also some older Driver's still do not know how to proceed by law through a 4 way Stop . Maybe it's an ice plant issue ? .....Maybe it's a Hotel Room issue ? More Military are on there way ........maybe it's just a Wise ....Safe ....Common Sense Approach to the Big Picture.....that may be bigger than we realize .....not being High Up in that Inner Circle . I myself applaud the Q for this Move . Cape Bretoners not knowing how to handle a 4 way stop at broken traffic lights is nothing new. Thats an entire other issue outside of the hurricane clean up. I know people being told it will be weeks before their individual residence may get power back. At this point its being overly cautious but it just seems like overkill when the game is on Wednesday and we'll likely have 3 days of school in by then...and still have the same drivers not knowing the proper rules of the road while all the kids are going back and forth. Its the rural areas that are going to need the help here soon...some have seen very little help going on a week now after the storm. From all I hear C200 has power and is otherwise fine.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 30, 2022 11:28:21 GMT -4
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Post by hal on Sept 30, 2022 11:33:45 GMT -4
Not Surprised at all .......No Traffic Lights on one of the busiest streets in Sydney that also happens to be where C200 is located is a Royal Pain ......some young and also some older Driver's still do not know how to proceed by law through a 4 way Stop . Maybe it's an ice plant issue ? .....Maybe it's a Hotel Room issue ? More Military are on there way ........maybe it's just a Wise ....Safe ....Common Sense Approach to the Big Picture.....that may be bigger than we realize .....not being High Up in that Inner Circle . I myself applaud the Q for this Move . Cape Bretoners not knowing how to handle a 4 way stop at broken traffic lights is nothing new. Thats an entire other issue outside of the hurricane clean up. I know people being told it will be weeks before their individual residence may get power back. At this point its being overly cautious but it just seems like overkill when the game is on Wednesday and we'll likely have 3 days of school in by then...and still have the same drivers not knowing the proper rules of the road while all the kids are going back and forth. Its the rural areas that are going to need the help here soon...some have seen very little help going on a week now after the storm. From all I hear C200 has power and is otherwise fine. I am OK with overly cautious but Johnny it's not Rural Areas but you are right some of them have not seen anybody but my Generator has gone from House to House to House . I live in a Rural area and have power now but I have Family in Whitney Pier who were told Oct 3rd - Oct 5th , Ashby who were told last night by 8 pm ........nah didn't happen .......and in the South End of Sydney with none still . It's better out there now........but still pretty bad .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 30, 2022 13:50:55 GMT -4
Cape Bretoners not knowing how to handle a 4 way stop at broken traffic lights is nothing new. Thats an entire other issue outside of the hurricane clean up. I know people being told it will be weeks before their individual residence may get power back. At this point its being overly cautious but it just seems like overkill when the game is on Wednesday and we'll likely have 3 days of school in by then...and still have the same drivers not knowing the proper rules of the road while all the kids are going back and forth. Its the rural areas that are going to need the help here soon...some have seen very little help going on a week now after the storm. From all I hear C200 has power and is otherwise fine. I am OK with overly cautious but Johnny it's not Rural Areas but you are right some of them have not seen anybody but my Generator has gone from House to House to House . I live in a Rural area and have power now but I have Family in Whitney Pier who were told Oct 3rd - Oct 5th , Ashby who were told last night by 8 pm ........nah didn't happen .......and in the South End of Sydney with none still . It's better out there now........but still pretty bad . My estimated time changed 2-3 times over the weekend and stayed on Monday the 3rd for 2 days and it came back on Wednesday. I also know people in the city being told in could be weeks because of where their house happens to be. My point in bringing up the rural areas is there are some in very rough shape but a lot of the resources are naturally being used to get the most people online as soon as possible in the city and towns while also prioritizing the more dangerous situations. There are some rural folks who won't see help for another week or so. But maybe i'm too optimistic in thinking the CBRM is mostly back to normal on Monday outside of some outliers. Sydney seems pretty busy today.
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Post by hal on Sept 30, 2022 14:39:30 GMT -4
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Post by bois on Oct 3, 2022 8:08:38 GMT -4
so how bad is it over there? we were lefd to believe nova scotia power situation was handled pretty well overall
here on PEI we are on day 10 and still have 20% or more customers without power ... and timelines have never been given
it's pretty brutal and it's getting cold
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 3, 2022 8:29:12 GMT -4
so how bad is it over there? we were lefd to believe nova scotia power situation was handled pretty well overall here on PEI we are on day 10 and still have 20% or more customers without power ... and timelines have never been given it's pretty brutal and it's getting cold They are still just getting to certain areas....and any timelines given can't be relied upon. Its not even NSP's response that bothers me. It's the governments. Both provincial and federal have mostly just used this for photo ops. If people had any idea where big chunks of money were being spent their heads would spin but it will just show as part of the "cleanup" in a years time. For a storm we had a week of prep for it sure ends up looking like a dysfunctional mess for all involved once the dust settles. Some here have no power for a 10th day today and the most i've seen our premier do is write a letter to Ottawa about ISP's and phone coverage.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Oct 3, 2022 9:07:45 GMT -4
so how bad is it over there? we were lefd to believe nova scotia power situation was handled pretty well overall here on PEI we are on day 10 and still have 20% or more customers without power ... and timelines have never been given it's pretty brutal and it's getting cold They are still just getting to certain areas....and any timelines given can't be relied upon. Its not even NSP's response that bothers me. It's the governments. Both provincial and federal have mostly just used this for photo ops. If people had any idea where big chunks of money were being spent their heads would spin but it will just show as part of the "cleanup" in a years time. For a storm we had a week of prep for it sure ends up looking like a dysfunctional mess for all involved once the dust settles. Some here have no power for a 10th day today and the most i've seen our premier do is write a letter to Ottawa about ISP's and phone coverage. Can say what we want about the premier response and certainly there is an acute need after a disaster and some of the things he will need concentrate on getting improved are down the road. So maybe complaining about phone service is just political to tap into people's frustration. That's what politics is. But during the Dorian aftermath the last govt did the same thing. And it was only 3 years ago. I am really pi55ed that the telecos did nothing to upgrade the system to prevent communication outages. In Dorian we learned that after a certain # of hours cell towers stopped working when battery backups died. I was under the impression that telecoms were being included in emergency response network going forward and they would have generators to boost their service if this ever happened again. Well it happened again. It's worse. Nothing changed. We can't have no access to info and communication services after a disaster. Technology is there to mitigate that. So maybe Houston needed to get right on it. It's not like he climbs power poles - he needs to coordinate better disaster response in the province.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 3, 2022 9:21:00 GMT -4
They are still just getting to certain areas....and any timelines given can't be relied upon. Its not even NSP's response that bothers me. It's the governments. Both provincial and federal have mostly just used this for photo ops. If people had any idea where big chunks of money were being spent their heads would spin but it will just show as part of the "cleanup" in a years time. For a storm we had a week of prep for it sure ends up looking like a dysfunctional mess for all involved once the dust settles. Some here have no power for a 10th day today and the most i've seen our premier do is write a letter to Ottawa about ISP's and phone coverage. Can say what we want about the premier response and certainly there is an acute need after a disaster and some of the things he will need concentrate on getting improved are down the road. So maybe complaining about phone service is just political to tap into people's frustration. That's what politics is. But during the Dorian aftermath the last govt did the same thing. And it was only 3 years ago. I am really pi55ed that the telecos did nothing to upgrade the system to prevent communication outages. In Dorian we learned that after a certain # of hours cell towers stopped working when battery backups died. I was under the impression that telecoms were being included in emergency response network going forward and they would have generators to boost their service if this ever happened again. Well it happened again. It's worse. Nothing changed. We can't have no access to info and communication services after a disaster. Technology is there to mitigate that. So maybe Houston needed to get right on it. It's not like he climbs power poles - he needs to coordinate better disaster response in the province. Agreed. McNeil suggested after Dorian and all parties need to be together during the disaster. The telco's wouldn't play ball but that should have been discussed in the days leading up to Fiona...not 3-4-5 days later. And it does make the province look bad if they couldn't get everyone on board ahead of time. The idea every dollar of support seems funneled through the Red Cross doesn't sit well with me either. Not enough dollars are being put on the ground to help people. And I mean the seniors homes that went days without power and any help. The income assistance earners who are still without power. We've left our most vulnerable fend for themselves in a lot of ways with this. I can't even imagine how worse it is in some of the rural areas.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Oct 3, 2022 10:23:17 GMT -4
Can say what we want about the premier response and certainly there is an acute need after a disaster and some of the things he will need concentrate on getting improved are down the road. So maybe complaining about phone service is just political to tap into people's frustration. That's what politics is. But during the Dorian aftermath the last govt did the same thing. And it was only 3 years ago. I am really pi55ed that the telecos did nothing to upgrade the system to prevent communication outages. In Dorian we learned that after a certain # of hours cell towers stopped working when battery backups died. I was under the impression that telecoms were being included in emergency response network going forward and they would have generators to boost their service if this ever happened again. Well it happened again. It's worse. Nothing changed. We can't have no access to info and communication services after a disaster. Technology is there to mitigate that. So maybe Houston needed to get right on it. It's not like he climbs power poles - he needs to coordinate better disaster response in the province. Agreed. McNeil suggested after Dorian and all parties need to be together during the disaster. The telco's wouldn't play ball but that should have been discussed in the days leading up to Fiona...not 3-4-5 days later. And it does make the province look bad if they couldn't get everyone on board ahead of time. The idea every dollar of support seems funneled through the Red Cross doesn't sit well with me either. Not enough dollars are being put on the ground to help people. And I mean the seniors homes that went days without power and any help. The income assistance earners who are still without power. We've left our most vulnerable fend for themselves in a lot of ways with this. I can't even imagine how worse it is in some of the rural areas. I think the reason the Red Cross is always involved as the endorsed way to give is a) they are pros at collecting donations quickly through existing channels b) they have mobilizable infrastructure c) trusted as this is what they do all the time disaster relief. Problem is they aren't experts on the ground in every place. May not play well with other grassroots churches, shelters, aid resources. The governments like them because they step in and fill voids. They mobilize volunteers quickly and seem to know how to get supplies they need faster than government can. What Canada doesn't have is a FEMA like in the US? FEMA oversees the aid needs and distributions working with state and local authorities. They have some executive power. Maybe if we are going to have fires, floods, landslides, hurricanes, and tornadoes at this increasing rate this country should formalize a network for disaster relief. Give credit where it's due. The power companies are actually more prepared for the inevitability of these disasters than most in government and most in local levels. The power companies have existing supply arrangements to help each other and can forecast their needs. This storm though is the worst one yet so it takes time to do what they do. Truck loads of power poles coming in from Quebec the last 10 days shows the magnitude of the response. Juan, Dorian and other events have made things more ready. But it's the power company's job to be ready. All these smaller outfits it's not their job, it's more volunteer. So it falls on govt to get ducks in a row long before and anticipate better.
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