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Post by mikeb on Jan 8, 2023 9:46:39 GMT -4
^^ Eagles billet families be like "what was your name again?". If this season was anything to go by then just a quick tip to other Eagles' fans don't get attached to any of the players the rest of the season they might be gone by the Draft in June. This post is eerily similar to posts that have appeared on the Titan board for the past 20 years. Sly came as promised. Same guy, different team
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Post by scotiahockey on Jan 14, 2023 20:15:22 GMT -4
I know Desruisseaux asked for a trade and he probably doesn’t line up with what Sly wanted to do anyways, seeing everything he’s done but the kid has 10 points in 9 games since going to Chicoutimi… on a team that struggled to score goals, was there no opportunity to play him higher in the lineup/get him more ice time or put him in a better position to succeed?
Maybe the trade has nothing to do with his time in Cape Breton but it seems like a talented 16 YO, who had success at the U17 for Canada and is now playing quite well, should have been part of the long-term plan.
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Post by JEagle on Jan 14, 2023 21:04:51 GMT -4
I know Desruisseaux asked for a trade and he probably doesn’t line up with what Sly wanted to do anyways, seeing everything he’s done but the kid has 10 points in 9 games since going to Chicoutimi… on a team that struggled to score goals, was there no opportunity to play him higher in the lineup/get him more ice time or put him in a better position to succeed? Maybe the trade has nothing to do with his time in Cape Breton but it seems like a talented 16 YO, who had success at the U17 for Canada and is now playing quite well, should have been part of the long-term plan. Chicoutimi is currently 8th in the league in goals for as I'm writing this, the Eagles are 16th it's not like even with increased ice-time he would have been able to produce at the same rate he currently is with Chicoutimi. Would I have preferred him,Shields,Squires and Patterson get consistent top 6 time yes but it's very obvious by how empty the stands are that management cares more about trying for wins now than later which is laughable given all the talk about 2024-2025 yet here we are welcome to the Cape Breton Eagles where mismanagement is our forte.
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Post by scotiahockey on Jan 14, 2023 21:09:48 GMT -4
I know Desruisseaux asked for a trade and he probably doesn’t line up with what Sly wanted to do anyways, seeing everything he’s done but the kid has 10 points in 9 games since going to Chicoutimi… on a team that struggled to score goals, was there no opportunity to play him higher in the lineup/get him more ice time or put him in a better position to succeed? Maybe the trade has nothing to do with his time in Cape Breton but it seems like a talented 16 YO, who had success at the U17 for Canada and is now playing quite well, should have been part of the long-term plan. Chicoutimi is currently 8th in the league in goals for as I'm writing this, the Eagles are 16th it's not like even with increased ice-time he would have been able to produce at the same rate he currently is with Chicoutimi. Would I have preferred him,Shields,Squires and Patterson get consistent top 6 time yes but it's very obvious by how empty the stands are that management cares more about trying for wins now than later which is laughable given all the talk about 2024-2025 yet here we are welcome to the Cape Breton Eagles where mismanagement is our forte. I’m not suggesting the same rate of offensive production but it’s clear he had more to give.He’s playing down the middle of the ice and just looks a lot more dangerous.
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Post by jordo999 on Jan 19, 2023 10:55:19 GMT -4
Desruisseaux has 12 points in 10 games now since joining Chicoutimi....after having 5 in his first 22...
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 19, 2023 11:00:41 GMT -4
Desruisseaux has 12 points in 10 games now since joining Chicoutimi....after having 5 in his first 22... Those 22 games were mostly spent in the bottom 6 getting little opportunity. Shouldn't shock anyone that a good player getting put in a situation to produce is doing just that. This will be one that doesnt look all that great for the next 3+ years.
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Post by jordo999 on Jan 19, 2023 11:24:36 GMT -4
Desruisseaux has 12 points in 10 games now since joining Chicoutimi....after having 5 in his first 22... Those 22 games were mostly spent in the bottom 6 getting little opportunity. Shouldn't shock anyone that a good player getting put in a situation to produce is doing just that. This will be one that doesnt look all that great for the next 3+ years. oh for sure, he seems to have another drive to his game now that he's playing more...wonder had he been given more of that opportunity with the Eagles if it would've been a similar outcome production wise but hard to tell. Could be a comfort thing as well that's helping his game. hope that the value you guys got works out in the end but yeah definitely a bit of a tough pill to swallow...that core of drafted players in Lavoie, Shields, Desruisseaux, looked to be all big hits and guys you want to build around...add in Daigle, Squires, and Patterson the potential is there. But taking a step back and moving Desruisseaux from that group is rough for sure but not much can be done when a trade is requested.
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Post by scotiahockey on Jan 19, 2023 11:27:17 GMT -4
Those 22 games were mostly spent in the bottom 6 getting little opportunity. Shouldn't shock anyone that a good player getting put in a situation to produce is doing just that. This will be one that doesnt look all that great for the next 3+ years. oh for sure, he seems to have another drive to his game now that he's playing more...wonder had he been given more of that opportunity with the Eagles if it would've been a similar outcome production wise but hard to tell. Could be a comfort thing as well that's helping his game. hope that the value you guys got works out in the end but yeah definitely a bit of a tough pill to swallow...that core of drafted players in Lavoie, Shields, Desruisseaux, looked to be all big hits and guys you want to build around...add in Daigle, Squires, and Patterson the potential is there. But taking a step back and moving Desruisseaux from that group is rough for sure but not much can be done when a trade is requested. It probably doesn’t matter that he requested a trade though, I bet some of these guys were going to get moved at some point because CB wants to win now and be competitive, which you’re not going to do with a bunch of 16/17 YO’s.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 19, 2023 11:31:13 GMT -4
Those 22 games were mostly spent in the bottom 6 getting little opportunity. Shouldn't shock anyone that a good player getting put in a situation to produce is doing just that. This will be one that doesnt look all that great for the next 3+ years. oh for sure, he seems to have another drive to his game now that he's playing more...wonder had he been given more of that opportunity with the Eagles if it would've been a similar outcome production wise but hard to tell. Could be a comfort thing as well that's helping his game. hope that the value you guys got works out in the end but yeah definitely a bit of a tough pill to swallow...that core of drafted players in Lavoie, Shields, Desruisseaux, looked to be all big hits and guys you want to build around...add in Daigle, Squires, and Patterson the potential is there. But taking a step back and moving Desruisseaux from that group is rough for sure but not much can be done when a trade is requested. You can trace that pick all the way back to #1 overall in 2021. We traded down and picked Perron. Moved Perron for that pick. Nobody really wants to say it but to this point we're replicating the Dumont era. Accumulated a bunch of picks during a rebuild with a complete bottoming out of the franchise. Moved a future #1 and other picks for an 18yr old D(Leblanc back then, Schmitt now). Now trying to move those picks for key pieces after hitting on some picks and missing on some others. But still lots of holes and questions as the team still shows no signs of being anything better then a bottom half team begging for the respect of a top 5 franchise from its fans and sponsors. Still lots of time to change the narrative. But if this ends up as a bottom 5/6 team and an easy out in round 1...its no different then it has been. Only results change that.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 19, 2023 11:36:13 GMT -4
oh for sure, he seems to have another drive to his game now that he's playing more...wonder had he been given more of that opportunity with the Eagles if it would've been a similar outcome production wise but hard to tell. Could be a comfort thing as well that's helping his game. hope that the value you guys got works out in the end but yeah definitely a bit of a tough pill to swallow...that core of drafted players in Lavoie, Shields, Desruisseaux, looked to be all big hits and guys you want to build around...add in Daigle, Squires, and Patterson the potential is there. But taking a step back and moving Desruisseaux from that group is rough for sure but not much can be done when a trade is requested. It probably doesn’t matter that he requested a trade though, I bet some of these guys were going to get moved at some point because CB wants to win now and be competitive, which you’re not going to do with a bunch of 16/17 YO’s. Acquiring less average vets and giving a kid like him a shot to earn top 6 ice would have made a lot of sense for a team coming off a .250 winning %. We keep hearing that ownership wanted the process accelerated yet that tends to only derail things even more at this level. There's this weird obsession in this market where the team is at the bottom yet everyone keeps saying they have to win to sell tickets. Yet there's no real accountability when they continue to make life harder by making moves that seem to want both building and winning now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 13:21:26 GMT -4
Desruisseaux has 12 points in 10 games now since joining Chicoutimi....after having 5 in his first 22... Those 22 games were mostly spent in the bottom 6 getting little opportunity. Shouldn't shock anyone that a good player getting put in a situation to produce is doing just that. This will be one that doesnt look all that great for the next 3+ years. Giving up Desruisseaux to get Newcombe, terrible. He was drafted, he reported, has excellent skill, all he wanted was a chance.
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Post by justathought on Jan 19, 2023 13:32:28 GMT -4
It almost seems that Chicoutimi has done a better job of developing Desruisseaux in 10 games than the Eagles did in 22 league games and Pre-season. Not a good look on the team's part for how things worked out for a REPORTING HIGH DRAFT PICK, imo!
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 19, 2023 13:38:11 GMT -4
Those 22 games were mostly spent in the bottom 6 getting little opportunity. Shouldn't shock anyone that a good player getting put in a situation to produce is doing just that. This will be one that doesnt look all that great for the next 3+ years. Giving up Desruisseaux to get Newcombe, terrible. He was drafted, he reported, has excellent skill, all he wanted was a chance. Yeah and I hate that there would be an appearance of anyone looking down on Newcombe. Seems like a good kid who should fit in well. But to see a highly touted kid from Quebec come here and not get as much of a chance as he deserved is rough as that had potential to be a home run for us and already looks like one for someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 13:39:02 GMT -4
It almost seems that Chicoutimi has done a better job of developing Desruisseaux in 10 games than the Eagles did in 22 league games and Pre-season. Not a good look on the team's part for how things worked out for a REPORTING HIGH DRAFT PICK, imo! With opportunity comes confidence and confidence goes right to a players legs. We are seeing the opposite situation with Sheilds, Patterson and of course Campbell and Henderson. I am sure for the those 4, confidence is at an all time low.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 13:42:12 GMT -4
Giving up Desruisseaux to get Newcombe, terrible. He was drafted, he reported, has excellent skill, all he wanted was a chance. Yeah and I hate that there would be an appearance of anyone looking down on Newcombe. Seems like a good kid who should fit in well. But to see a highly touted kid from Quebec come here and not get as much of a chance as he deserved is rough as that had potential to be a home run for us and already looks like one for someone else. Exactly, it's not a knock on Newcombe, he is solid and could be nice piece, but he does not have the upside of a Desruisseaux.
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