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Post by hal on Apr 28, 2023 9:04:00 GMT -4
As you said, I think the 2024 1st goes back to CHI and Cape gets the 2023 1st (compensation in return). One could argue that it would essentially touch 4 picks. I don't think we walk away with Newcombe, 2nd , 1st for Dessy and mid round pick, a little too good IMO. Cape has CHI 2nd in 2023, maybe that one moves back rather then a mid round pick? There's rumours Matteo Mann is heading to Cap-Breton too. What's his story ?
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Post by Marco52 on Apr 28, 2023 9:40:43 GMT -4
There's rumours Matteo Mann is heading to Cap-Breton too. What's his story ? I have no idea, but when the first part of the trade was made, there was rumour he was going to CB at the draft.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2023 10:03:15 GMT -4
There's rumours Matteo Mann is heading to Cap-Breton too. What's his story ? His story...well a pretty lack luster season in CHI, injuries kept him out of the line up for a good chunk of the season averaging 14 mins per night when he was in the line up. Big body, 6'5 + RH shot, a typical Sly type of guy, so a rumor of him coming to Cape could hold water. I think he is a guy who everyone sees as having a nice upside, but the challenge I have seen has been foot speed and decision making under pressure. Heavy shot and a late 04 B-day could mean he is still coming into his own so to speak and if he pans out, he could be a beast in the league at 20. His NHL draft ranking is without question biased towards his size and potential as his play has been sub par to date. The CHI faithful don't seem to give him much love on their boards, but like I said the potential is there.
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Post by eagleeye on Apr 28, 2023 11:28:35 GMT -4
GERARD SHAW way of rebuilting the eagles fast equals more fans
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Post by lirette on Apr 28, 2023 11:54:10 GMT -4
His story...well a pretty lack luster season in CHI, injuries kept him out of the line up for a good chunk of the season averaging 14 mins per night when he was in the line up. Big body, 6'5 + RH shot, a typical Sly type of guy, so a rumor of him coming to Cape could hold water. I think he is a guy who everyone sees as having a nice upside, but the challenge I have seen has been foot speed and decision making under pressure. Heavy shot and a late 04 B-day could mean he is still coming into his own so to speak and if he pans out, he could be a beast in the league at 20. His NHL draft ranking is without question biased towards his size and potential as his play has been sub par to date. The CHI faithful don't seem to give him much love on their boards, but like I said the potential is there. I watched him play one game against Moncton this season when their d core was pretty decimated and I thought he looked really good. I swear he played 35 minutes. While he doesnt seem to offer much in terms of offense he seemed to play smart, physical, shut down style game. I came away from that game thinking that was the type of defenseman Moncton was missing. Perhaps it was his best game of the season.
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Post by Briwhel on Apr 28, 2023 12:22:40 GMT -4
His story...well a pretty lack luster season in CHI, injuries kept him out of the line up for a good chunk of the season averaging 14 mins per night when he was in the line up. Big body, 6'5 + RH shot, a typical Sly type of guy, so a rumor of him coming to Cape could hold water. I think he is a guy who everyone sees as having a nice upside, but the challenge I have seen has been foot speed and decision making under pressure. Heavy shot and a late 04 B-day could mean he is still coming into his own so to speak and if he pans out, he could be a beast in the league at 20. His NHL draft ranking is without question biased towards his size and potential as his play has been sub par to date. The CHI faithful don't seem to give him much love on their boards, but like I said the potential is there. I watched him play one game against Moncton this season when their d core was pretty decimated and I thought he looked really good. I swear he played 35 minutes. While he doesnt seem to offer much in terms of offense he seemed to play smart, physical, shut down style game. I came away from that game thinking that was the type of defenseman Moncton was missing. Perhaps it was his best game of the season. Those are the types of players that fans on message boards tend to undervalue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2023 13:45:31 GMT -4
I personally don't undervalue that type of player, Lavoie is exactly that with a slightly higher upside. I am just not convinced we need 2...or potentially 3 as Desjardins has all the traits of a shut down/physical defender. Assuming Mann is part of a deal at the draft, he would likely be in the plan to be here as a 20, just not sure what you do with him next season as the top 4 should be pretty muched locked down. Do you need a 19 playing bottom pair? Or do guys like Waugh, Desjardins, Carboneau, Euro or 2023 drafted guys need those minutes.
I seen Mann as a real good option as a 20, but leave him CHI to get top 4 mins next season as he needs it to continue his development.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 28, 2023 14:13:24 GMT -4
I personally don't undervalue that type of player, Lavoie is exactly that with a slightly higher upside. I am just not convinced we need 2...or potentially 3 as Desjardins has all the traits of a shut down/physical defender. Assuming Mann is part of a deal at the draft, he would likely be in the plan to be here as a 20, just not sure what you do with him next season as the top 4 should be pretty muched locked down. Do you need a 19 playing bottom pair? Or do guys like Waugh, Desjardins, Carboneau, Euro or 2023 drafted guys need those minutes. I seen Mann as a real good option as a 20, but leave him CHI to get top 4 mins next season as he needs it to continue his development. It would just be an example of acquiring a 19yr old reclamation project. Means nothing in terms of him being here at 20. His performance would have to dictate that. If he's healthy maybe he's 1 great summer from being a top 4. I'd rather find that out vs let Chicoutimi force us to overpay for it at Xmas if he does it there. You're saying he's a good option as a 20 but there's nothing to indicate that at all here right now heading into his 19yr old season. I see this as acquiring a Maritimer that needs a change of scenery. And it probably costing very little.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 28, 2023 14:14:40 GMT -4
GERARD SHAW way of rebuilting the eagles fast equals more fans Yes the rink was full of fans this past season. He's doing such a great job.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2023 14:25:04 GMT -4
I personally don't undervalue that type of player, Lavoie is exactly that with a slightly higher upside. I am just not convinced we need 2...or potentially 3 as Desjardins has all the traits of a shut down/physical defender. Assuming Mann is part of a deal at the draft, he would likely be in the plan to be here as a 20, just not sure what you do with him next season as the top 4 should be pretty muched locked down. Do you need a 19 playing bottom pair? Or do guys like Waugh, Desjardins, Carboneau, Euro or 2023 drafted guys need those minutes. I seen Mann as a real good option as a 20, but leave him CHI to get top 4 mins next season as he needs it to continue his development. It would just be an example of acquiring a 19yr old reclamation project. Means nothing in terms of him being here at 20. His performance would have to dictate that. If he's healthy maybe he's 1 great summer from being a top 4. I'd rather find that out vs let Chicoutimi force us to overpay for it at Xmas if he does it there. You're saying he's a good option as a 20 but there's nothing to indicate that at all here right now heading into his 19yr old season. I see this as acquiring a Maritimer that needs a change of scenery. And it probably costing very little. Yeah, but what's the point of another reclamation project? If the plan is to shed a 20 on the back end by adding a 19, I am in, if it's to eat minutes from the young guys or experiment to see if he has 20 potential, makes no sense to me. By option at 20, I mean option, just like any other 20 year old D man who is in the league for their overage year. There is no question there is a move towards Maritimer's happening, but that should not mean that because you are a Maritimer, the Eagles should make a trade. The cost would be interesting. If we pay for the existing value vs the projected value, maybe make it now, but I doubt it will be a steal so to speak. My guess is that CHI is licking their chops for a guy like Desjardins in return.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 28, 2023 14:55:27 GMT -4
It would just be an example of acquiring a 19yr old reclamation project. Means nothing in terms of him being here at 20. His performance would have to dictate that. If he's healthy maybe he's 1 great summer from being a top 4. I'd rather find that out vs let Chicoutimi force us to overpay for it at Xmas if he does it there. You're saying he's a good option as a 20 but there's nothing to indicate that at all here right now heading into his 19yr old season. I see this as acquiring a Maritimer that needs a change of scenery. And it probably costing very little. Yeah, but what's the point of another reclamation project? If the plan is to shed a 20 on the back end by adding a 19, I am in, if it's to eat minutes from the young guys or experiment to see if he has 20 potential, makes no sense to me. By option at 20, I mean option, just like any other 20 year old D man who is in the league for their overage year. There is no question there is a move towards Maritimer's happening, but that should not mean that because you are a Maritimer, the Eagles should make a trade. The cost would be interesting. If we pay for the existing value vs the projected value, maybe make it now, but I doubt it will be a steal so to speak. My guess is that CHI is licking their chops for a guy like Desjardins in return. Its to see if he can play at 19. No more no less. This management group wants to win games. Acquiring older players is how they're going to do that. But not every older player will be established and have the same expectations. For all we know this guy is a throw in costing nothing and will be waiver fodder after camp. But why wouldn't you rather your team being the one to make that call? If he shows up to Chicoutimi in amazing shape and has a great 1st half he'd be someone we're trying to buy at Xmas. So in this situation where all we have is a name and zero cost associated...it makes sense to acquire a 19yr old Maritime defenceman. If either side really viewed him as a key piece to the overall deal he could have been included right away.
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Post by sc74 on May 17, 2023 10:37:14 GMT -4
The celebration pic on the OT goal from last night was sponsored by the Cape Breton Eagles.
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Post by hal on May 17, 2023 11:07:27 GMT -4
Langois , Savoie and Cooper........Does that Langois Deal get Sweeter if the Remaparts win the Q Title ?
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Post by sc74 on May 17, 2023 11:10:13 GMT -4
Langois , Savoie and Davis........Does that Langois Deal get Sweeter if the Remaparts win the Q Title ? That deal sure isn't over but I've heard absolutely no rumours about what's coming back. It must be also related to Langlois coming back as an OA or not so we might not see the end at the draft.
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Post by eagle78 on May 17, 2023 18:22:12 GMT -4
Ya I agree the Eagles definitely need stability behind the bench , If goyens leaves that will be 3 head coaches in less than 2 years and all 3 never moved there families here , next possible head coach they hire would be nice if they stay at least 3 years
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