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Post by eagleeye on Oct 31, 2022 17:32:12 GMT -4
Jul 12, 2022 — “It was pretty cool to get the call,” is how Trevor Thurston described his invite to Calgary for the Flames' development camp this week.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 1, 2022 12:45:17 GMT -4
Agree, Cape needed a 20 on the back end now that Bergeron is gone for the season, more then they needed Gravel playing on the 3rd line. The Gravel trade now looks like...Jonah MacDonald (17) , 4th 2023, 5th 2025 for Charles Savoie (19) + 12th-2023. Canning is now back in Jr. A. Injuries continue for the Eagles, Patterson missed the last 2 games of the road trip, maybe sick? Hopefully this guy can play a regular shift and bring some experience that is badly needed to this group.
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Post by JEagle on Nov 5, 2022 0:00:39 GMT -4
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Post by JEagle on Nov 25, 2022 19:41:40 GMT -4
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Post by bois on Nov 27, 2022 9:07:33 GMT -4
well that was a short career
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Post by JEagle on Nov 30, 2022 14:27:15 GMT -4
With 18 Days until the Trade Period opens and talks well underway in the league we know a few things thanks to the team.
1. Sly wants to add more offense to the lineup and will depending on the cost.
2. Cameron Henderson will more than likely be joining the team full-time after Christmas.
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3. The team is building towards the 2024-2025 season as their goal meaning building around our group of 2005's
Players Assumed Available: F - Ivan Ivan 20yo Euro (Trade Likelihood - Very Small) Stats Line: 20GP - 5G - 18A - 23Pts
F - Samuel Johnson 20yo (Trade Likelihood - Small) Stats Line: 23GP - 10G - 15A - 25Pts
F - Charles Boutin 19yo (Trade Likelihood - Small) Stats Line: 22GP - 4G - 9A - 13Pts
D - Jérémy Langlois 19yo (Trade Likelihood - Moderate) Stats Line: 18GP - 2G - 6A - 8Pts
D - Conor Shortall 19yo (Trade Likelihood - Small) Stats Line: 23GP - 1G - 6A - 7Pts
D - François-James Buteau 18yo (Trade Likelihood - Small) Stats Line: 4GP - 1G - 1A - 2Pts
G - Oliver Satny 19yo Euro (Trade Likelihood - Very Small) Stats Line: 15GP - 6W - 8L - 3.46GAA - 0.900SV% - 3SO
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 14:53:01 GMT -4
If Sly is looking to add offense, I hope it's a young forward to continue the re-build. Langlois is expendable and our best trade chip, he could be packaged to help bring in a 17 year old.
If Buteau can turn it on for the next 3+ weeks, his value could climb for a team like Victo or Drummondville.
Ivan is nearly impossible to move, hold down 2 unique roster spots
Johnson leading the team in scoring is likely not going anywhere is Sly feels that offense is where he needs to focus.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 30, 2022 15:47:17 GMT -4
I agree with most of the likeihoods for sure.
Most of those forwards are here to stay. They cost little to acquire...and we're kind of seeing why as they all have some warts on them. Ivan basically has little value holding 2 specialty designations and not being Canadian means he's not even going to be looking for a move closer to family. He's here to stay I think.
The 3 experienced D bring the most back in trades. Shortall playing better lately might be great timing. He might be one of those late blooomers who we look back on as being a solid 19/20yr old even though everyone thought he'd arrive a bit earlier.
Langlois is the big fish but his play hasn't been that of a dominant 19yr old defenceman heading to pro hockey either.
Buteau might actually fetch the most because he's younger. But would you rather him at 19? See him on a contender as a 20? Those are the answers you need to answer now.
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Post by blueeagle on Nov 30, 2022 16:56:31 GMT -4
I think it's highly unlikely we get anything that is worth giving up 2.5 years of Buteau for in this trade period. If he moves I think it will be later.
I would have said Langlois was sure thing to move but yeah he hasn't been the player he's supposed to be. It's crucial that we get a good return on him.
Johnson could help a good team but probably wouldn't shift the needle on a contender.
I really hope we don't pay to make our offence better unless it is a piece that either is part of the future or can be flipped.
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Post by hal on Nov 30, 2022 16:57:43 GMT -4
Matt Stairs was picked up by Charlottetown for their run but you don't think any of our 19 year old Forwards will be moved ? A guy like Shortall on a Contender as a 3rd pairing guy who brings some Grit to the Table ..........I can see him being attractive to the Contenders....as much as he drives me crazy at times . I still think someone comes a calling on Langois .....did he sign an ELC with Phoenix yet ?
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Post by JEagle on Nov 30, 2022 17:18:42 GMT -4
Matt Stairs was picked up by Charlottetown for their run but you don't think any of our 19 year old Forwards will be moved ? A guy like Shortall on a Contender as a 3rd pairing guy who brings some Grit to the Table ..........I can see him being attractive to the Contenders....as much as he drives me crazy at times . I still think someone comes a calling on Langois .....did he sign an ELC with Phoenix yet ? Dawson Stairs had 9 goals and 15 assists for 24 points in 31 games before being traded to Charlottetown where he finished with 16 goals and 31 assists for a career high 47 points while playing a full 68 games as a 19 year old. by comparison Carter McCluskey was not even in the league earlier this season. Jordan Côté has a career high of 12 points and currently has 4 goals and 1 assist in 21 games Julien Hébert has a career high in goals of 9 and is on pace for 27 points playing a full season. and Charles Boutin is on pace for a career high of 40 points but as stated earlier Sly wants to improve the offence so unless he gets an offer he likes Boutin is probably staying around as a possible 20 year old option for next season. It's not impossible teams come calling on our 19 year old forwards but I don't think anyone is necessarily ringing the phone off the hook for them. No Langlois hasn't signed his ELC
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2022 10:04:25 GMT -4
I think it's highly unlikely we get anything that is worth giving up 2.5 years of Buteau for in this trade period. If he moves I think it will be later. I would have said Langlois was sure thing to move but yeah he hasn't been the player he's supposed to be. It's crucial that we get a good return on him. Johnson could help a good team but probably wouldn't shift the needle on a contender. I really hope we don't pay to make our offence better unless it is a piece that either is part of the future or can be flipped. I would take just about anything at this point for Buteau, he has zero interest in being in Cape. Package him with a pick and get back a 17 year old prospect. With Langlois, I think teams are still under the impression that there is some upside there and they might be right, he could bring some value to a contender, we need to move him or be all in to have him as a 20 next year. Your statement on Johnson is exactly the reason he has lost his value, if you are not willing to help a shitty team, I can't see a good team having any interest in picking you up. I am hoping that "making our offense better" is more about long term then short term. Who is the best 17 year old offensive prospect that has the potential to get moved?
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Post by JEagle on Dec 1, 2022 10:15:47 GMT -4
I think it's highly unlikely we get anything that is worth giving up 2.5 years of Buteau for in this trade period. If he moves I think it will be later. I would have said Langlois was sure thing to move but yeah he hasn't been the player he's supposed to be. It's crucial that we get a good return on him. Johnson could help a good team but probably wouldn't shift the needle on a contender. I really hope we don't pay to make our offence better unless it is a piece that either is part of the future or can be flipped. I would take just about anything at this point for Buteau, he has zero interest in being in Cape. Package him with a pick and get back a 17 year old prospect. With Langlois, I think teams are still under the impression that there is some upside there and they might be right, he could bring some value to a contender, we need to move him or be all in to have him as a 20 next year. Your statement on Johnson is exactly the reason he has lost his value, if you are not willing to help a shitty team, I can't see a good team having any interest in picking you up. I am hoping that "making our offense better" is more about long term then short term. Who is the best 17 year old offensive prospect that has the potential to get moved? There's quite the difference between the best 17 year old forward in the league this season and the one most likely to be moved, Mathieu Cataford is the best 17yo forward in the league statistics wise but Halifax more than likely isn't moving him at least not for Jérémy Langlois.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2022 10:28:09 GMT -4
I have Gauthier ahead of Cataford, but your right Cataford is not getting moved. Gauthier might be part of a Futures deal at Christmas where you see him move at the draft, but we don't have the players to be part of that deal. So who's out there? I was hoping BLB was all in as they have a few, Bourque, Boiselle, but they are likely hanging on to them. QUE is Ridzon, but not sure who they would want from us Victo has Larose and Gendron Rimouski has a nice crop of 17's as well but likely not moving
The 17 group is well spread out among rebuilding teams.
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 1, 2022 10:28:45 GMT -4
I think it's highly unlikely we get anything that is worth giving up 2.5 years of Buteau for in this trade period. If he moves I think it will be later. I would have said Langlois was sure thing to move but yeah he hasn't been the player he's supposed to be. It's crucial that we get a good return on him. Johnson could help a good team but probably wouldn't shift the needle on a contender. I really hope we don't pay to make our offence better unless it is a piece that either is part of the future or can be flipped. I would take just about anything at this point for Buteau, he has zero interest in being in Cape. Package him with a pick and get back a 17 year old prospect. With Langlois, I think teams are still under the impression that there is some upside there and they might be right, he could bring some value to a contender, we need to move him or be all in to have him as a 20 next year. Your statement on Johnson is exactly the reason he has lost his value, if you are not willing to help a shitty team, I can't see a good team having any interest in picking you up. I am hoping that "making our offense better" is more about long term then short term. Who is the best 17 year old offensive prospect that has the potential to get moved? I'm unaware that Buteau is unhappy in CB. I'm not there anymore, I don't have any ears on the ground, and it's hard to pick up attitude on the webcasts, heh. Thats a shame, but you also can't let good players leave for nothing because they are sulking imo. I didn't mean to imply Johnson isn't willing to help a shitty team. Again I know nothing of his character. But yeah I think there are enough 20s more in demand than him that he isn't getting a look on a contender. I completely agree with you about the making offense better comment. That is how I interpreted it, at least I hope paying for short term improvement is off the table. The question about 17s is interesting. There aren't many on teams that I could see buying. If Sherbrooke go wild Gauthier could move as a future but we have nothing that would make them even consider that, and I don't see it happening anyway. I could see Crosby moving if Halifax go in hard, but again we don't have anything that fills a need for them. Gatineau and Quebec don't have many 17yos worth buying. Who else would buy? Victo? Rouyn? Drummondville? Gendron in Victo, Goyette in Drummond, Verdon and Brunelle in RN. But none would be easy to pry away I don't think. Maybe take the long road and target an '04 who helps now and may have value down the road. EDIT: Heh it looks like we're all pretty well saying the same thing here.
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