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Post by statsman18 on Mar 14, 2023 9:28:01 GMT -4
I know we’re on the basically on the eve of this years playoffs but I can’t stop thinking about next year. I’ve said all along this year is the go for it year and I think this team should win the presidents cup. The debate happened all year next year is the go for it year. I still don’t think we even close to a contender next year as we were entering this season. The new ownership wasn’t apart of the equation back in the summer though. This factor makes me wonder what next could be like.
First thing first this team traded away its 1st round picks for the next 2 seasons. I wonder what the new owner thinks when they go back to like draft and he can’t go up on stage to make a pick? I wonder if pick 15,16,17 he start to think I want to be seen? Makes Cam make a move so he gets to go call out a name. Maybe Sam doesn’t care but maybe Peter does and says Daddy I want to do that? Just saying it could happen.
If that scenario does play out what does that do to the asset pool Cam has for next years team? Because the same needs are still there. The only thing that maybe changed a bit is Whynot breaking his leg might have killed him getting a contract. Maybe not though he could come back have a great playoff and earn a contract. So that means they only have to find 1 20yo instead of two. Biasca and Whynot and an open spot. I was looking at some Euros that make sense to make kick tires at. Because this team is picking somewheres around 50 in the euro draft. My guess is they look at player who were drafted late in the NHL draft last year. Maybe someone who played world Jr’s and got to see Halifax first hand. I seen a few names that maybe are fits.
Also with the new ownership maybe they tell Cam to change his MO of no futures. Especially if they get really close and blow it this year. The rush of the high and they want that badly type thing.
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Post by rookieq on Mar 14, 2023 10:10:35 GMT -4
I think Biasca is not back next year. Apparently, he will stay in Europe and play pro there. I agree, some work to do to bring the team to a #1 team, but the base is awesome. Dumais, Vidicek, Cataford are already some of the best of the league this year, I expect them to have an outstanding year next year. D squad and Goalie will be the same (just need a backup goalie that we might already have). I think 2-3 top forwards and this team is ready to win it all. Without Biasca and Whynot, I think that we have none overager (other than Moravec and Fournier)…a great opportunity to add 2-3 great ones. A top Euro prospect would be great. It will be exciting to so what happens before the season starts.
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Post by trueblue on Mar 14, 2023 10:35:32 GMT -4
Also with the new ownership maybe they tell Cam to change his MO of no futures. Especially if they get really close and blow it this year. The rush of the high and they want that badly type thing. To me there way more balls in the air about next year. If we do go the route of futures, having Cataford, MacKinnon, and Phillips to dangle could net us some really good players. We've also got Vidicek, Rousseau, and Schultz that could be dealt as futures - all three have potential to be one of the leagues best OAs in 24/25 at their respective positions.
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Post by statsman18 on Mar 14, 2023 11:21:37 GMT -4
I think Biasca is not back next year. Apparently, he will stay in Europe and play pro there. I agree, some work to do to bring the team to a #1 team, but the base is awesome. Dumais, Vidicek, Cataford are already some of the best of the league this year, I expect them to have an outstanding year next year. D squad and Goalie will be the same (just need a backup goalie that we might already have). I think 2-3 top forwards and this team is ready to win it all. Without Biasca and Whynot, I think that we have none overager (other than Moravec and Fournier)…a great opportunity to add 2-3 great ones. A top Euro prospect would be great. It will be exciting to so what happens before the season starts. I seen something on Elite Prospect about a rumour of him going pro, but that is only a rumour. Unless you have heard more please let’s us know. I think he back unless he get and ECL from a NHL team.
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Post by rookieq on Mar 15, 2023 22:18:22 GMT -4
I think Biasca is not back next year. Apparently, he will stay in Europe and play pro there. I agree, some work to do to bring the team to a #1 team, but the base is awesome. Dumais, Vidicek, Cataford are already some of the best of the league this year, I expect them to have an outstanding year next year. D squad and Goalie will be the same (just need a backup goalie that we might already have). I think 2-3 top forwards and this team is ready to win it all. Without Biasca and Whynot, I think that we have none overager (other than Moravec and Fournier)…a great opportunity to add 2-3 great ones. A top Euro prospect would be great. It will be exciting to so what happens before the season starts. I seen something on Elite Prospect about a rumour of him going pro, but that is only a rumour. Unless you have heard more please let’s us know. I think he back unless he get and ECL from a NHL team. This is what I heard at the rink from non official people, but it comes from people that talks to players and/or billets, so I guess that it is reliable. The Elite Prospect note is probably the confirmation even if it says « Rumour » for now. I am not a big fan of using an overager spot with a european spot and Morovec might be one…i am not sure i like that, but i really like Morovec, so we will see how it unfolds.
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Post by trueblue on Mar 23, 2023 11:28:56 GMT -4
Furlong just hit the 100-point mark and will be the anchor on our blueline next year at 19. Should be a pretty good bet to end his Mooseheads career with the most points for a defenseman in franchise history.
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Post by sc74 on Mar 26, 2023 12:39:48 GMT -4
Quebec could be a dance partner with the Mooseheads who will need to add OA's. Fournier doesn't seem to fit the bill.
Robidas could be this year's Lawrence/Doucet as far as OA's. Huchette, Langlois and Truchon could be great additions as well.
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Post by Joe Burrow on Mar 26, 2023 13:14:02 GMT -4
Quebec could be a dance partner with the Mooseheads who will need to add OA's. Fournier doesn't seem to fit the bill. Robidas could be this year's Lawrence/Doucet as far as OA's. Huchette, Langlois and Truchon could be great additions as well. Fournier wouldn’t fit the bill playing timbits
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Post by Reesor on Mar 26, 2023 13:25:07 GMT -4
^^ Fournier's game from the CCHL hasn't translated to this level as much as I was hoping. Really thought he was going to be an option for the top 6 when we got him. He definitely belongs in major junior. But unfortunately on this team he hasn't been able to get going consistently. If L'Heureux and/or Crosby are out for any length of time he'll probably find himself on the 3rd line to start the playoffs.
Definitely not a 20 yo option on a contender unless he takes a huge step forward in the summer. If Halifax are contending this year and he's on the team to start the year, it's probably to upgrade on him down the road. I hope he finds a spark with the opportunity he'll be given and adds to Halifax's depth.
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Post by howitzer on Mar 26, 2023 17:28:02 GMT -4
I see Cam following a similar path to this season. Halifax should be competitive. Let things play out till xmas, and if you're a buyer, add some impact 20s.
I think Whynot will be back. He'd be the only 20 on the roster. Maybe you bring Fournier, but probably not. So basically they have to fill 2 20s.
Moravec and Biasca likely move on. I say swing for the fences in the import draft. Bring in two forwards. Ideally they slot in on the 2nd line. If you hit on those two picks (very difficult), they should be sitting pretty well.
You're bringing back your starting goaltender, and your entire D core (minus Moravec) and probably the best line in the league in Vidicek-Cataford-Dumais. After that she's thin with a group of Crosby, MacPhee, Peitzsche, Todd, Welsh.
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Post by rookieq on Mar 26, 2023 18:31:48 GMT -4
I see Cam following a similar path to this season. Halifax should be competitive. Let things play out till xmas, and if you're a buyer, add some impact 20s. I think Whynot will be back. He'd be the only 20 on the roster. Maybe you bring Fournier, but probably not. So basically they have to fill 2 20s. Moravec and Biasca likely move on. I say swing for the fences in the import draft. Bring in two forwards. Ideally they slot in on the 2nd line. If you hit on those two picks (very difficult), they should be sitting pretty well. You're bringing back your starting goaltender, and your entire D core (minus Moravec) and probably the best line in the league in Vidicek-Cataford-Dumais. After that she's thin with a group of Crosby, MacPhee, Peitzsche, Todd, Welsh. I am super positive for next year to be the #1 team, but written like you just did, I am no so sure anymore. There is lot of work to do with the Euros, the 20s and our 2nd and 3rd lines. Wow, let's enjoy this year playoff first and I'm sure Cam will surprise us a little bit.
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Post by Herd Fan on Mar 26, 2023 19:52:58 GMT -4
I agree with Howitzer. Cam will do something similar next season as he did this one. Let the season play out and see where you are at Xmas. My bet is we will be sitting prettier than you think. We are losing some very high end players but so are other teams. At Xmas I have faith in Cam bringing in the right guys to take us the distance. See if he can score another Doucet and Lawrence type players next year.
Vidicek, Cataford, Dumais will be scary for most teams to handle. No question. I don’t believe Fournier will be back. I figure Biasca is going to stay in Europe and play pro. I have a feeling our entire D-core will return and probably be best in the league. Moravec included even as a 20 and Euro. Maybe an upgrade on one net miner and we will be solid. I’m hoping Milner will have a great camp and see him jump up to the next level.
As for the playoffs, the Moose will have no problem with CB. They may get a win and have it go 5 but no more then that IMO.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Mar 26, 2023 20:42:12 GMT -4
So the Moosehead's have basically 1 line for next year. So where are they finding say 6 solid players for the 2nd and 3rd line? I know defense and goaltending should be strong. The Import Draft has been slim pickens lately and they will have a late pick again correct?
Tell me what are we using for trade capital next season? We have 1 first rounder we can use from 2025 I believe. So every player they will acquire will be for futures? I mean Dumais, Vidicek, Cataford, Phillips and MacKinnon could get you quite a bit but do we have the picks as well to offer or do u think it will be strictly futures? Dumais may not even be back for the season after that so what team is going to give up a lot for him? I am not sold on next year being a slam dunk year. If we do these deals it will be pretty ugly the season after.
I would like to hear your opinions on this. You folks know a lot more then I do about this stuff.
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Post by Reesor on Mar 27, 2023 6:30:43 GMT -4
So the Moosehead's have basically 1 line for next year. So where are they finding say 6 solid players for the 2nd and 3rd line? I know defense and goaltending should be strong. The Import Draft has been slim pickens lately and they will have a late pick again correct? Tell me what are we using for trade capital next season? We have 1 first rounder we can use from 2025 I believe. So every player they will acquire will be for futures? I mean Dumais, Vidicek, Cataford, Phillips and MacKinnon could get you quite a bit but do we have the picks as well to offer or do u think it will be strictly futures? Dumais may not even be back for the season after that so what team is going to give up a lot for him? I am not sold on next year being a slam dunk year. If we do these deals it will be pretty ugly the season after. I would like to hear your opinions on this. You folks know a lot more then I do about this stuff. They'll have their 2026 draft picks to work with. Cataford and Vidicek can improve. I guess Dumais can improve but it's tough to picture him better. The entire defense will improve. You're right though... they will need to add in order to be a true contender, and if they don't hit a home run in the import draft, they'll have to add a lot more than this year to get up to the same level. Completely depleting their 1st and 2nd round picks for the next three seasons looks concerning. But they'll have Cataford & MacKinnon available in 2025 to trade for a good haul, and possibly Vidicek (Maybe Schultz?). The year after they'll have Phillips. I think they can reverse some of those losses pretty quickly.
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Post by trueblue on Mar 27, 2023 9:12:06 GMT -4
Taking a (probably way too early) look around the rest of the league, here's where I see things for next year:
Frontrunners: Victoriaville, Royun Contenders: Moncton, Rimouski, Chicoutimi, Drummondville Mid-Pack: SJ, Baie-Comeau, Cape Breton, Shawinigan, Blainville Rebuilding: Quebec, Sherbrooke, Gatineau, Bathurst, Val D'Or, Charlottetown
All of this obviously impacts who is buying/selling over the summer. On paper, I don't think Victoriaville or Royun are out of reach (yet) but I would peg the Mooseheads a notch below in the "contenders" category for now.
The two teams that I'm most curious about are Drummondville and Chicoutimi. The Volts have had a disappointing season but have always looked like they were lining up a run with their 04 group. Wouldn't be surprised to see them swing for the fences and bring in the hometown boy Ethan Gauthier. Chicoutimi have a really talented group of young forwards, and lot of draft capital this summer. If they can get Boisvert to report, they could choose to start their run a year early - upgrading the blueline and finding a goalie.
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