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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 9:20:43 GMT -4
I guess it's a good time to start looking at next season and what work needs to be done between now and opening night. Let's assume Sly runs with his current roster and has success in the Euro draft, is it enough to move the Eagles up the standings next season?
Where are the biggest holes that need to be filled....Goal scoring? Goaltending? Are the 20's set or does Sly move in a different direction? What players can make the jump offensively to help replace Johnson/Ivan's departure?
Newcombe - Boutin (20) - Squires Houde - Roy - Shields Fullerton - Patterson - Euro (17) Campbell - Aucoin- Henderson Davis - 07 Draft - 07 Draft Lochead - Griffen -Grandy
Bigger (20) - Lavoie Shortall (20) - Schmitt Waugh - Daigle Desjardins - Carbonneau Arnold - 07 Draft
Ruccia Labbe Farrah Cloutier (NCAA committed)
I may be missing some quality prospects...feel free to add.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 12, 2023 9:57:40 GMT -4
Everything coming out of the front office signals an all in for 24-25 and setting the table for it this upcoming season.
I think that means you see 2 new 20's. If Shortall was really in the plan do they add Biggar? I think Biggar is the better of the 2 options and see other holes more easily filled by overagers such as scoring and potentially goaltending.
The biggest improvements likely coming from the returning rookies...Shields should be a 20 goal guy but can he reach other heights at 17? Lavoie should be a dominant 1st pairing D but does he find that top 10 NHL pick level? Does Patterson's game find that next gear? Can Daigle find consistency to nail down a top 4 spot on a good team?
But there's some holes as well. Boutin isn't really a great overage option. The D really drops off after the top 4.
And the goaltending numbers speak for themselves. I don't see how you can bring back Ruccia as a #1.
If you find overagers for your 1C and 1G and use picks to add an 18/19yr old D who returns in 24-25 the holes start to fill up quick and it really comes down to how those 2nd year guys come along.
I won't even touch the Euro situation due to how volatile it is. I can see one of those coming in a deal for an existing European already in the league. But its hard to speculate who and what position. I wouldn't rule anything out in that regard.
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 12, 2023 10:14:53 GMT -4
For me the team needs help down the middle and between the pipes. You need someone to push or compliment Ruccia. He hasn’t shown enough to trust entering the season with a backup who’s new to the league.
There’s Roy (who’s a 4th liner) and Boutin (who can play 2nd line) down the middle. They don’t seem to want to play Patterson there and there’s really not many other options. You keep Boutin/Biggar as 20’s and add a top 6 20 YO C and move on from Shortall. You need the help down the middle, more than the help on D. Arnold, Campbell and Henderson are all coming to camp fighting for a job, they didn’t show enough as Q players to guarantee themselves a spot entering their 18 YO season.
If you’re realistically slotting guys for next season, it probably looks something like this:
Newcombe- XXX- Squires Houde- Boutin- XXX Patterson- XXX- Shields Aucoin- Roy- Fullerton XXX, Campbell
Biggar- Schmitt Daigle- Lavoie Waugh- Desjardins Arnold
Ruccia XXX
Although knowing how badly this team wants to be competitive as quickly as they can and the fact that Sly is trigger happy on deals, I’d be surprised if a lot of these guys are still around come next training camp.
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Post by hal on Apr 12, 2023 10:21:04 GMT -4
I think the key to next year will be ........2 New Euros......Seeing what the Final Return on Langois is ......Who the 20's are ......Who the Goaltending Tandem is ?
Did anybody else feel that's Daigle's Foot Speed was exposed during the Halifax Series ? I think he is very capable of playing Major Junior . I just can't see him being a Top Pairing Dee Man .
I would like to see Shields play with Newcombe ......I think he will blossom next season with a good playmaker .
I hope Schmitt is the New Captain and it raises his game a notch to that somewhat closer to what they paid a Kings Ransom for .
A Surefire 18 year old Euro Sniper is on my Wish List .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 12, 2023 11:10:58 GMT -4
I think the key to next year will be ........2 New Euros......Seeing what the Final Return on Langois is ......Who the 20's are ......Who the Goaltending Tandem is ? Did anybody else feel that's Daigle's Foot Speed was exposed during the Halifax Series ? I think he is very capable of playing Major Junior . I just can't see him being a Top Pairing Dee Man . I would like to see Shields play with Newcombe ......I think he will blossom next season with a good playmaker . I hope Schmitt is the New Captain and it raises his game a notch to that somewhat closer to what they paid a Kings Ransom for . A Surefire 18 year old Euro Sniper is on my Wish List . I see Daigle as one of those guys who needs to put in a ton of effort this off season to get stronger or else he risks being passed on the depth chart. He has the inside track to that top 4 role if he finds ways to improve. Of all the guys we've had penciled in he's the one I can see Sly moving the most to shoot for an older more reliable vet who can play for 2 years.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 12, 2023 11:15:31 GMT -4
For me the team needs help down the middle and between the pipes. You need someone to push or compliment Ruccia. He hasn’t shown enough to trust entering the season with a backup who’s new to the league. There’s Roy (who’s a 4th liner) and Boutin (who can play 2nd line) down the middle. They don’t seem to want to play Patterson there and there’s really not many other options. You keep Boutin/Biggar as 20’s and add a top 6 20 YO C and move on from Shortall. You need the help down the middle, more than the help on D. Arnold, Campbell and Henderson are all coming to camp fighting for a job, they didn’t show enough as Q players to guarantee themselves a spot entering their 18 YO season. If you’re realistically slotting guys for next season, it probably looks something like this: Newcombe- XXX- Squires Houde- Boutin- XXX Patterson- XXX- Shields Aucoin- Roy- Fullerton XXX, Campbell Biggar- Schmitt Daigle- Lavoie Waugh- Desjardins Arnold Ruccia XXX Although knowing how badly this team wants to be competitive as quickly as they can and the fact that Sly is trigger happy on deals, I’d be surprised if a lot of these guys are still around come next training camp. Yeah this is basically how I see it. Still a lot tied up in question marks but we have the assets to fill the holes. My big fear is buying too much now and putting ourselves in a position to gut the farm the following year. But as fans all we can do is buy in and hope the next 2 years are good. Just getting this group to contender status isn't a sure thing as so much is tied up in the development of younger guys who could take off or stagnate a bit in their development. The drop off after the Shields and Lavoie's in this lineup is steep but it will be even steeper if those returning guys with high expectations see their development go lateral. We really need big steps forward from the high picks.
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Post by JEagle on Apr 12, 2023 12:03:50 GMT -4
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 12, 2023 12:26:26 GMT -4
The writing style constantly putting a favourable spin on everything is impossible to read for me. Trying to sell Ruccia as ready for the #1 job based on game 2 while not even commenting on game 3 is just completely misleading to anyone who has actually followed the team. Are these articles all meant for parents and the front office? This article would have you believe they did exactly what they set out to do this past season and Ruccia looked great in the lead up to being the #1 goaltender at 19 and the culture change of swapping out players for other similarly aged players in huge numbers is actually healthy and normal. So if come September Ruccia is not the #1 and the team has stopped making 12 deals per trade period should I believe they're progressing or falling back into old habits? Its not hard to see why casual fans just start to give up on some of it. I don't think there's been 1 fairly written article in the CB Post about this team in a decade or more. Constantly misleading and essentially letting the team spin things as they please even if there's blatant numbers that tell you the complete opposite.
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Post by hal on Apr 12, 2023 13:38:16 GMT -4
Anybody surprised that the #8 Overall Pick is up for Grabs ? Anybody got a Gut Feeling that Courtourier swings for the fences at the Q Draft ?
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Post by bois on Apr 12, 2023 13:41:13 GMT -4
Anything in Charlottetown interest you guys?
would love to get that #8 pick
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 12, 2023 13:55:03 GMT -4
Anybody surprised that the #8 Overall Pick is up for Grabs ? Anybody got a Gut Feeling that Courtourier swings for the fences at the Q Draft ? If you're trying to win in 2024 and 2025 you're definitely trading a top 10 pick in 2023. I just assumed that was going to happen and its the main factor they tried to buy and make the pick as far away from the lottery as they could. The last thing they wanted was to trade another top 3 pick after another embarrassing finish. It just cost an entire draft worth of picks to do it.
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Post by hal on Apr 12, 2023 13:56:50 GMT -4
Anything in Charlottetown interest you guys? would love to get that #8 pick Yeah ...............Jim Hulton .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 12, 2023 13:57:45 GMT -4
Anything in Charlottetown interest you guys? would love to get that #8 pick Probably a tough deal to swing with where both teams are. I see some complimentary pieces but nothing worth a top 10 pick that fits the Eagles cycle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 14:40:06 GMT -4
Anybody surprised that the #8 Overall Pick is up for Grabs ? Anybody got a Gut Feeling that Courtourier swings for the fences at the Q Draft ? I think it is likely that along with the 8th pick, Sly could look at moving Daigle or Patterson, maybe both. These 2 guys were both on the NHL CSR list, but found themselves buried in the line-up. In addition, I would say one of the biggest needs for the Eagles is #1 center to play with Squires, he needs support, more then a guy like Boutin can offer. Could moving some guys out with a Pick bring in a #1 center, ideally one that can be here for 2 years? Eagles are deep on D prospects as well...maybe a Carbonneau or Waugh are in play?
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Post by turchi on Apr 12, 2023 14:53:37 GMT -4
I see in the GM's newspaper article the following:
"Meanwhile, Couturier confirmed Julien Hebert’s time with the team is also over. Couturier said Hébert was made aware he won’t fit the team’s plan as a 20-year-old next season."
I didn't see any mention in the article of rookies Lochead, Giffen, Grandy and returnee Henderson. What are their chances of cracking the roster next year?
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