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Post by hockeydad on Nov 18, 2023 11:34:10 GMT -4
I wonder if Cam comes back with with Hennebury or Roelins after tonight’s game ? Just a feeling since it was this time last year we got Lawrence the timing would make sense with a big game coming up with Baie Comeau and Dumais and company leaving for World Juniors .
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Post by hfxfan2002 on Nov 18, 2023 13:56:18 GMT -4
I wonder if Cam comes back with with Hennebury or Roelins after tonight’s game ? Just a feeling since it was this time last year we got Lawrence the timing would make sense with a big game coming up with Baie Comeau and Dumais and company leaving for World Juniors . 20 year olds can be added whenever, however anyone younger can’t go until the Trade Period opens on December 17th, But yes I’d love a deal to be done for a center as soon as possible.
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Post by rookieq on Nov 18, 2023 15:45:11 GMT -4
I wonder if Cam comes back with with Hennebury or Roelins after tonight’s game ? Just a feeling since it was this time last year we got Lawrence the timing would make sense with a big game coming up with Baie Comeau and Dumais and company leaving for World Juniors . I doubt that a trade is made that early, there are a lot of uncertainty in the trade market right now. If you read Lalancette article, there are a lot of rumours in Gatineau and other teams. There are some talk that Gendron and Marcel comes back in the Q on top of Luneau and Savoie which seems to rehab quickly, there is also a rumour that Robidas is thinking about his short term futrue too as he is playing East Coast right now and there was even a rumour that Nadeau with his injury might come back in the second half for rehab as he will have missed a long time. I also heard that Kidney is not playing much and coming back with the right team might be the best outcome for him rather than sit in the stand for 40 games. But I guess that we do not have the currency to afford most of those players. I would not pay a 1st rounder for any of Hennebury or Roelens in case 1 or 2 of those players become available. I think the big trades will be after the Holidays, but in the same article Beausoleil mentioned that he will sell early as he is not the type to wait in January. But I would love a trade now because I think that it will be very difficult without Dumais, Rousseau, Crosby, Levesque and maybe a Cataford and Furlong for part of Team Canada Camp. Moose might drop a bit in the middle of the pack in December.
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Post by trueblue on Nov 18, 2023 16:27:01 GMT -4
But I would love a trade now because I think that it will be very difficult without Dumais, Rousseau, Crosby, Levesque and maybe a Cataford and Furlong for part of Team Canada Camp. Moose might drop a bit in the middle of the pack in December. I mean, our schedule during the WJ period is Bathurst - SJ - SJ - Charlottetown - CB - CB - Bathurst. Might actually be the easiest stretch of games (on paper) the entire year.
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Post by rookieq on Nov 18, 2023 17:48:58 GMT -4
But I would love a trade now because I think that it will be very difficult without Dumais, Rousseau, Crosby, Levesque and maybe a Cataford and Furlong for part of Team Canada Camp. Moose might drop a bit in the middle of the pack in December. I mean, our schedule during the WJ period is Bathurst - SJ - SJ - Charlottetown - CB - CB - Bathurst. Might actually be the easiest stretch of games (on paper) the entire year. I agree, but without Dumais, Rousseau, I am not sure that we are better than all those teams (except SJ or Bathurst if they sell)…we saw it last night and we did not play bad, its just that we are not a fire power. Bring me a top second line (any combination of the top 19-20s available) and I am all in. Right now, I am not sure we win a 1st round playoff against CB or Charlottetown just because of the physical play. My point here and everybody is not denying anothing I believe is that we have a very good and exciting team, but not good enough to go for it. I don’t think that we can handle a physical final in Rouyn and Victo and BC will be very physical teams in the playoffs.
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Post by hfxfan2002 on Nov 19, 2023 0:36:06 GMT -4
Here’s Every Player with over 10 goals so far this season in the 2003-2004 groups.
20’s (2003) Michael Horth (CHA) 17g 9a Justin Gill (BAC) 14g 26a Alexis Morin (CHI) 13g 9a Israel Mianscum (SHE) 11g 19a Milo Roelens (BAT) 11g 18a Tommy Cormier (VIC) 11g 17a Lou-Felix Denis (SHA) 11g 10a Peter Reynolds (SNB) 10g 15a Maxime Pellerin (VIC) 10g 13a Brody Fournier (HAL) 10g 10a
19’s (2004) *Jordan Dumais (HAL) 12g 19a Markus Vidicek (HAL) 15g 17a Antonin Verreault (ROU) 13g 17a Jeremie Minville (GAT) 13g 16a Peter Repcik (DRU) 13g 9a Donovan Arsenault (BAT) 13g 8a Luke Woodworth (DRU) 12g 17a Jules Boilard (BAC) 10g 17a Joesph Henneberry (BAT) 10g 12a Louis-Phillipe Fontaine (ROU) 10g 11a
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Post by hfxfan2002 on Nov 20, 2023 12:11:08 GMT -4
Would Halifax be interested in the Samuel Savoie sweepstakes I wonder? It’s a risky decision but I think he’d be excellent with Vidicek Dumais then grab a 20 center.
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Post by itstime on Nov 21, 2023 14:48:45 GMT -4
Everyone keeps putting what the Mooseheads need in other posts. I see everyone saying that they dont have what they need to win and that might be right. But I dont think they need a lot and I honestly think they can do that on the cheap if they wait for things to happen around them.
Look at who will be adding 20s at the deadline. Will Drummondville? Victoriaville? Rouyn-Noranda? Baie Comeau? Maybe Moncton and Maybe Cape Breton will try to upgrade to get more out of the 20s on the team. I would say that most of these teams are happy with the current group of 20s they have. Some might try to upgrade but if they do it will be for much of the same player or a small upgrade. If this is the case do you think they will pay a large price for it? I really dont think they will. Halifax will be able to upgrade the team by adding a 20 how much they spend will be on whatever the market value will be but will they go pay a first and second like last year for Michael Horth, Milo Roelens or Peter Reynolds Im not sure they will.
You can discount this team all you want but they are winning with one strong line and 3 third lines and maybe that is because the top line is the best in the league or maybe the other 3 lines are okay defensivly but are not great scorers. Everyone discounts this team and I think they love that, Dumais has been discounted at every level, and look at him, maybe he has getting everyone in the same thinking and that will help them win.
I am not saying that this team is perfect, Im not saying that they wont make some moves at the deadline but I dont think they are going to go make blockbuster moves and disrupt what they have. I think you see them tweek things, that will be 1 20 for sure but could it be upgrading Fournier as well maybe but not at the expense of the future of the team. Its not what they do first of all, or at least they havent in the past. Yes they have new ownership but if you look at what Cam has been doing he has been working on being a competivive theam every year for many years. I also dont think you are able to get a kid like Kilfoil to come for a rebuild.
Everyone is discounting this team because we are comparing them to Last year, or 2013, or 2019 but what we need to do is compare them to the current league and the truth is they have lost 4 games, and have had a few games that they needed some heroics to pull of the win. You dont win consistantly in this league without having a good team. Halifax fans enjoy what you have they are a top 4 team for sure without doing anything at the deadline, if they add they are better but dont expect a lot. They have been developing young players like Kilfoil, Peitzsche, Fontaine, Ponzetto, Moser and Todd and it is working. These players are depth players but if you are not happy with the development you need to watch them play. Ponzetto every game is looking better, Todd has moved to the second line and has done well, Moser has been a sold 4th liner that I can see on a 3rd line next year, Kilfoil is a studd and next year when he is on a line with Cataford and Vidicek he will light things up and put him on the draft watch. And they have players like Nasreddine and Doyle that can step into the lineup next year.
I dont know, I see what teams like Bathurst and SJ right now and they went all in and now they are struggling to recover and yes thats Junior hockey but does it need to be. I like what Halifax is doing they are developing young players to take the next step, some will make it some will not but Halifax can say they are doing that and you will get more players that will want to come play in Halifax because of what they are doing.
This is what I am thinking. Ride the wave Halifax its been a good one.
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Post by hockeydad on Nov 21, 2023 16:39:09 GMT -4
Good post you make a lot of sense I as well love the way Halifax is grooming there young guys the other 3 lines can’t score with the first line but they play hard on the puck and they change quick which keeps up the team speed I find Halifax seems to win the 3rd period and that’s from good line changes earlier on in the game the other teams are tiring when Halifax has energy not many teams role 4 lines in the Q PEI does and maybe that why they play Halifax tough .
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Post by hfxfan2002 on Nov 21, 2023 18:18:41 GMT -4
The team will try to make as little moves as possible, maybe even try to crack a deal with just one franchise with two players.
If anyone we’ll at least be adding a 20 year old, likely a forward. Then the question comes if we add an ‘04 forward or backup goaltender. I have a gut feeling they end up keeping Milner and Fournier. So they will run everything we have plus an addition or two. We’ll see what happens.
As I’ve already mentioned I would love Milo Roelens and Lou-Felix Denis, both are third and fourth in the league in faceoff wins.
A name Halifax could take as well is Donovan Arsenault from PEI on Bathurst, haven’t heard his name in conversation yet. He’s a righty though.
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Post by Citris on Nov 21, 2023 20:09:58 GMT -4
Look at who will be adding 20s at the deadline. Will Drummondville? Victoriaville? Rouyn-Noranda? Baie Comeau? Maybe Moncton and Maybe Cape Breton will try to upgrade to get more out of the 20s on the team. I would say that most of these teams are happy with the current group of 20s they have. Some might try to upgrade but if they do it will be for much of the same player or a small upgrade. If this is the case do you think they will pay a large price for it? I really dont think they will. Halifax will be able to upgrade the team by adding a 20 how much they spend will be on whatever the market value will be but will they go pay a first and second like last year for Michael Horth, Milo Roelens or Peter Reynolds Im not sure they will. Good post! This part I wanted to address specifically because I find it interesting to talk about. For me, Victoriaville is almost certainly set when it comes to their 20's Maxime Pellerin is over a point per game and is their captain, Tommy Cormier is their leading scorer and Nathan Darveau is their backbone in net. Baie-Comeau is probably set too. Justin Gill leads the league in points, Isaac Dufort is their captain and Emile Chouinard is the big shut-down presence on their top D pair. I say probably as it's not inconceivable that they try to upgrade on Dufort or Chouinard, but both are quality players in their own right... they'd need to feel really confident in the player they're adding. Drummondville has 2 guys who definitely could be improved upon, with all due respect to Drew Elliott and Tristan Roy... they're not 20's on a contending team. Rumor has it they will be acquiring Mikael Huchette from Quebec, but that still leaves one slot to fill. You mentioned Moncton but, I highly doubt there's a change there. Boutin and Plandowski are key pieces to their D and Connor Trenholm... well they dumped a bunch of assets into getting him, I don't see them moving off. Plus he seems to be a good locker room guy. For them it's let the youth play and develop. Rimouski tho, they just went out and got Max Barbashev, which probably pushes Mikael Denis out, and Julien Beland can be upgraded on too. Charlie Truchon is their big piece on D so I don't see him going anywhere... but getting Barbashev shows me they want to win a couple playoff rounds this year.
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Post by hfxfan09 on Nov 22, 2023 9:53:26 GMT -4
I for sure see them making some moves to contend, but we also have to make moves we don't have a lot in the cupboards so we need to get some draft picks back, I fully trust Cam he hasn't disappointed us yet and who knows the conversations have probably already started. I for sure think we need some secondary scoring we can't ride the first line all the season and far into the playoffs.(World Juniors will be a good opportunity for other guys to step up with some of our players gone)
(everyone keeps saying Roelens there's some Halifax fans that aren't convinced they want Roelens)
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Post by Score on Nov 22, 2023 10:00:00 GMT -4
Look at who will be adding 20s at the deadline. Will Drummondville? Victoriaville? Rouyn-Noranda? Baie Comeau? Maybe Moncton and Maybe Cape Breton will try to upgrade to get more out of the 20s on the team. I would say that most of these teams are happy with the current group of 20s they have. Some might try to upgrade but if they do it will be for much of the same player or a small upgrade. If this is the case do you think they will pay a large price for it? I really dont think they will. Halifax will be able to upgrade the team by adding a 20 how much they spend will be on whatever the market value will be but will they go pay a first and second like last year for Michael Horth, Milo Roelens or Peter Reynolds Im not sure they will. Drummondville has 2 guys who definitely could be improved upon, with all due respect to Drew Elliott and Tristan Roy... they're not 20's on a contending team. Rumor has it they will be acquiring Mikael Huchette from Quebec, but that still leaves one slot to fill. The Volts and Isles have been good trading partners over the years.....I could see a deal involving Horth from the Isles and Peddle from the Volts.
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Post by itstime on Nov 22, 2023 10:17:12 GMT -4
Drummondville has 2 guys who definitely could be improved upon, with all due respect to Drew Elliott and Tristan Roy... they're not 20's on a contending team. Rumor has it they will be acquiring Mikael Huchette from Quebec, but that still leaves one slot to fill. The Volts and Isles have been good trading partners over the years.....I could see a deal involving Horth from the Isles and Peddle from the Volts. Peddle needs a change in my eyes, he is not living up to what was expected but the challange is how much would you give up for him when he is not producing on a good team. It would be good for Dumais and him to be together as they are both drafted to the blue jackets. Thats a move I like but its risky if you look at his current production. I like Horth as well but as a rental Im not giving up a lot for him to be honest. Hes getting a lot of playing time and that is adding to his production. Im not saying he isnt a good player and he would help the depth but Im not giving up the same as we did for Doucet or Lawrence last year.
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Post by Citris on Nov 22, 2023 14:24:06 GMT -4
Peddle needs a change in my eyes, he is not living up to what was expected but the challange is how much would you give up for him when he is not producing on a good team. It would be good for Dumais and him to be together as they are both drafted to the blue jackets. Thats a move I like but its risky if you look at his current production. I like Horth as well but as a rental Im not giving up a lot for him to be honest. Hes getting a lot of playing time and that is adding to his production. Im not saying he isnt a good player and he would help the depth but Im not giving up the same as we did for Doucet or Lawrence last year. The thing is Drummondville is never trading Peddle to Halifax, regardless. Drummondville wants to compete in the playoffs, and the worst case scenario for them is if he succeeds in Halifax, he makes them look like complete fools and could potentially even cost them a playoff round. It's the same thing the other way around, Halifax doesn't want to give Drummondville assets that they can use to go bolster their team. The risks are too huge for either side to consider it.
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