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Post by catnut on Sept 8, 2008 13:03:36 GMT -4
I can't remember the last Wildcat to wear the number 13....... I think it was Martin Bartek.
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tal
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Post by tal on Sept 8, 2008 13:06:59 GMT -4
I can't remember the last Wildcat to wear the number 13....... I think it was Martin Bartek. I believe Bartek wore 18.......
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Post by catnut on Sept 8, 2008 13:17:20 GMT -4
I think it was Martin Bartek. I believe Bartek wore 18....... You are right my friend. The only other player to wear 13 was Martin Lavergne. At least I had the first name and the right year. ;D
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Post by gongshow on Sept 8, 2008 13:19:24 GMT -4
I haven't seen Molotkov play,but from what I can gather I would've liked to see him kept over Ted Stephens.Nothing personnal against Stephens....seems like a great kid and gives an honest effort when he plays.I just don't see the upside for him.....doesn't have a great shot,not a paticulary strong skater,doesn't play physical.He DOES seem to see the ice pretty well and has decent hands but the kid is already 18 and only potted 2goals and 5 point in forty some games last year....unless he improves drastically he won't be in the league @ 20 and may not even see much more icetime this year other than as a 13th forward....considering he's here as an offensive player not a grinder or a crash and banger is it a good idea to keep him around?
I know Flynn has been a huge Ted Stephens fan since day one but this is Major Jr...people pay good money to watch games.
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Post by tal on Sept 8, 2008 13:21:13 GMT -4
I believe Bartek wore 18....... You are right my friend. The only other player to wear 13 was Martin Lavergne. At least I had the first name and the right year. ;D I knew someone would remember - thanks
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Post by hockey1981 on Sept 8, 2008 13:25:44 GMT -4
Why does it still show that Jodoin is a forward
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 8, 2008 13:36:10 GMT -4
If Gormley can become as good or better than the last player to wear his number..... Also, I notice Bell is not listed. I noticed that too. There must be another d-man on the way, hopefully Voynov, possibly a FA.
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Post by hockey1981 on Sept 8, 2008 13:39:08 GMT -4
If Gormley can become as good or better than the last player to wear his number..... Also, I notice Bell is not listed. I noticed that too. There must be another d-man on the way, hopefully Voynov, possibly a FA. I think it's an error and forgot to put him on the site.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 8, 2008 13:39:27 GMT -4
I haven't seen Molotkov play,but from what I can gather I would've liked to see him kept over Ted Stephens.Nothing personnal against Stephens....seems like a great kid and gives an honest effort when he plays.I just don't see the upside for him.....doesn't have a great shot,not a paticulary strong skater,doesn't play physical.He DOES seem to see the ice pretty well and has decent hands but the kid is already 18 and only potted 2goals and 5 point in forty some games last year....unless he improves drastically he won't be in the league @ 20 and may not even see much more icetime this year other than as a 13th forward....considering he's here as an offensive player not a grinder or a crash and banger is it a good idea to keep him around? I know Flynn has been a huge Ted Stephens fan since day one but this is Major Jr...people pay good money to watch games. I could have seen it, but they have seen flashes of Stephens' skill and believe in it. Moltkov is a solid player but in the same mold as Noseworthy(should be here next year), Lessard, Brannon, Biduke, Sill and Roski. I think that's the reasoning behind it, they need what Stephens potentially could bring more than the other guy.
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 8, 2008 14:03:04 GMT -4
I haven't seen Molotkov play,but from what I can gather I would've liked to see him kept over Ted Stephens.Nothing personnal against Stephens....seems like a great kid and gives an honest effort when he plays.I just don't see the upside for him.....doesn't have a great shot,not a paticulary strong skater,doesn't play physical.He DOES seem to see the ice pretty well and has decent hands but the kid is already 18 and only potted 2goals and 5 point in forty some games last year....unless he improves drastically he won't be in the league @ 20 and may not even see much more icetime this year other than as a 13th forward....considering he's here as an offensive player not a grinder or a crash and banger is it a good idea to keep him around? I know Flynn has been a huge Ted Stephens fan since day one but this is Major Jr...people pay good money to watch games. Its ironic that you didn't see the game the other night and missed the chance to see Molotkow ... because you also missed Ted Stephens play a physical and solid game with and without the puck. Stephens likley threw more hits than Malotkow did and was easily a more important forward and a bigger contributor to the win. Q site says they both threw 2 hits ... but I think both threw several more than that. They don't count under "gh" unless you actually seperate the puck carrier from the puck ... so completing a check isn't creditted ... at least that is my understanding. I know what you are saying about Stephens though. We all can see he has skill but are waiting for it to show up. It did show up on Saturday ... and I would guess that he was told he was on the bubble and would need to step it up to keep his spot ... so he did. Randy Cameron did the same thing ... probably heeding Flynn's warning before camp opened. They both need to do that on a regular basis.
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Post by gongshow on Sept 8, 2008 14:08:47 GMT -4
I haven't seen Molotkov play,but from what I can gather I would've liked to see him kept over Ted Stephens.Nothing personnal against Stephens....seems like a great kid and gives an honest effort when he plays.I just don't see the upside for him.....doesn't have a great shot,not a paticulary strong skater,doesn't play physical.He DOES seem to see the ice pretty well and has decent hands but the kid is already 18 and only potted 2goals and 5 point in forty some games last year....unless he improves drastically he won't be in the league @ 20 and may not even see much more icetime this year other than as a 13th forward....considering he's here as an offensive player not a grinder or a crash and banger is it a good idea to keep him around? I know Flynn has been a huge Ted Stephens fan since day one but this is Major Jr...people pay good money to watch games. I could have seen it, but they have seen flashes of Stephens' skill and believe in it. Moltkov is a solid player but in the same mold as Noseworthy(should be here next year), Lessard, Brannon, Biduke, Sill and Roski. I think that's the reasoning behind it, they need what Stephens potentially could bring more than the other guy. Well next year Lane will be gone,same goes for Biduke and Sill.Brannon could be dealt this year(I could see a contender wanting his services at Xmas).A guy who's 6'3 220 and can play a bit of hockey is a hot commodity these days....could another team sign him now? I must say that this is one of the most physical squads we've had since the year we had Saunders,Douville,Doucette and Pelham.....though we were tougher that year with the fists.Between Sill and Brannon being a year older I'm sure we're going to see some glass rattling at the coliseum this year.
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Post by gongshow on Sept 8, 2008 14:14:06 GMT -4
I haven't seen Molotkov play,but from what I can gather I would've liked to see him kept over Ted Stephens.Nothing personnal against Stephens....seems like a great kid and gives an honest effort when he plays.I just don't see the upside for him.....doesn't have a great shot,not a paticulary strong skater,doesn't play physical.He DOES seem to see the ice pretty well and has decent hands but the kid is already 18 and only potted 2goals and 5 point in forty some games last year....unless he improves drastically he won't be in the league @ 20 and may not even see much more icetime this year other than as a 13th forward....considering he's here as an offensive player not a grinder or a crash and banger is it a good idea to keep him around? I know Flynn has been a huge Ted Stephens fan since day one but this is Major Jr...people pay good money to watch games. Its ironic that you didn't see the game the other night and missed the chance to see Molotkow ... because you also missed Ted Stephens play a physical and solid game with and without the puck. Stephens likley threw more hits than Malotkow did and was easily a more important forward and a bigger contributor to the win. Q site says they both threw 2 hits ... but I think both threw several more than that. They don't count under "gh" unless you actually seperate the puck carrier from the puck ... so completing a check isn't creditted ... at least that is my understanding. I know what you are saying about Stephens though. We all can see he has skill but are waiting for it to show up. It did show up on Saturday ... and I would guess that he was told he was on the bubble and would need to step it up to keep his spot ... so he did. Randy Cameron did the same thing ... probably heeding Flynn's warning before camp opened. They both need to do that on a regular basis. That's great but Stephens isn't expected to be a physical prescence(good thing because that 170lbs frame wouldn't hold up to it)....nor does he have a mean streak....the kid is an offensive player,or at least supposed to be.The problem is I don't see his skills translating at the major junior level....if he's kept because of his new style of play than that's even worst. Also comparing the 2 is unfair....Stephens has a full year of Major jr under his belt and was in Mctn since day 1 of trainig camp.Molotkov on the other hand apparently only showed up later and had the chance to play 2 exhibition at the Major jr level after spending last season in MAAA.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 8, 2008 14:14:09 GMT -4
I haven't seen Molotkov play,but from what I can gather I would've liked to see him kept over Ted Stephens.Nothing personnal against Stephens....seems like a great kid and gives an honest effort when he plays.I just don't see the upside for him.....doesn't have a great shot,not a paticulary strong skater,doesn't play physical.He DOES seem to see the ice pretty well and has decent hands but the kid is already 18 and only potted 2goals and 5 point in forty some games last year....unless he improves drastically he won't be in the league @ 20 and may not even see much more icetime this year other than as a 13th forward....considering he's here as an offensive player not a grinder or a crash and banger is it a good idea to keep him around? I know Flynn has been a huge Ted Stephens fan since day one but this is Major Jr...people pay good money to watch games. Its ironic that you didn't see the game the other night and missed the chance to see Molotkow ... because you also missed Ted Stephens play a physical and solid game with and without the puck. Stephens likley threw more hits than Malotkow did and was easily a more important forward and a bigger contributor to the win. Q site says they both threw 2 hits ... but I think both threw several more than that. They don't count under "gh" unless you actually seperate the puck carrier from the puck ... so completing a check isn't creditted ... at least that is my understanding. I know what you are saying about Stephens though. We all can see he has skill but are waiting for it to show up. It did show up on Saturday ... and I would guess that he was told he was on the bubble and would need to step it up to keep his spot ... so he did. Randy Cameron did the same thing ... probably heeding Flynn's warning before camp opened. They both need to do that on a regular basis. I don't think Cameron was anywhere close to the bubble if that's what you were suggesting.
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Post by jimmy on Sept 8, 2008 14:16:29 GMT -4
I haven't seen Molotkov play,but from what I can gather I would've liked to see him kept over Ted Stephens.Nothing personnal against Stephens....seems like a great kid and gives an honest effort when he plays.I just don't see the upside for him.....doesn't have a great shot,not a paticulary strong skater,doesn't play physical.He DOES seem to see the ice pretty well and has decent hands but the kid is already 18 and only potted 2goals and 5 point in forty some games last year....unless he improves drastically he won't be in the league @ 20 and may not even see much more icetime this year other than as a 13th forward....considering he's here as an offensive player not a grinder or a crash and banger is it a good idea to keep him around? I know Flynn has been a huge Ted Stephens fan since day one but this is Major Jr...people pay good money to watch games. Its ironic that you didn't see the game the other night and missed the chance to see Molotkow ... because you also missed Ted Stephens play a physical and solid game with and without the puck. Stephens likley threw more hits than Malotkow did and was easily a more important forward and a bigger contributor to the win. Q site says they both threw 2 hits ... but I think both threw several more than that. They don't count under "gh" unless you actually seperate the puck carrier from the puck ... so completing a check isn't creditted ... at least that is my understanding. I know what you are saying about Stephens though. We all can see he has skill but are waiting for it to show up. It did show up on Saturday ... and I would guess that he was told he was on the bubble and would need to step it up to keep his spot ... so he did. Randy Cameron did the same thing ... probably heeding Flynn's warning before camp opened. They both need to do that on a regular basis. IF (note the capitals) Stephens can play all season the way he played Saturday night, he will be well worth having around. Given that our scoring players from last year were not very good at actually scoring, it doesn't hurt to have a guy with some offensive skill nipping at there heels looking for top-6 ice ... a sign of an emerging team is when you start to see returnees being pushed for ice time, hopefully Stephens can play a factor and push for second line and second unit PP ice time.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 8, 2008 14:17:38 GMT -4
I could have seen it, but they have seen flashes of Stephens' skill and believe in it. Moltkov is a solid player but in the same mold as Noseworthy(should be here next year), Lessard, Brannon, Biduke, Sill and Roski. I think that's the reasoning behind it, they need what Stephens potentially could bring more than the other guy. Well next year Lane will be gone,same goes for Biduke and Sill.Brannon could be dealt this year(I could see a contender wanting his services at Xmas).A guy who's 6'3 220 and can play a bit of hockey is a hot commodity these days....could another team sign him now? I must say that this is one of the most physical squads we've had since the year we had Saunders,Douville,Doucette and Pelham.....though we were tougher that year with the fists.Between Sill and Brannon being a year older I'm sure we're going to see some glass rattling at the coliseum this year. The smart thing to do as a GM is to suggest he go play Jr.A and remain on your protected list, with the possibility of returning at midseason if trades occur, same goes for Downe and Noseworthy. I think those 3 are Q calibre but caught in a numbers game. Guys like Brannon, Lessard, Boyle could be candidates to be traded if they are serious candidates to play at 20...Cameron also but his case is a bit more complicated as they don't have another veteran center to replace him.
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